Real0ne
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and how does one plan for retirement when the gub pisses everything away and worse devalues the money/wealth/whatever?
One plans for retirement by not counting on the Government. They cannot piss away that which is not given to them. (Meaning your gross income after taxes.)
In the end, independence and self-sufficiency are not easily devalued.
How do you survive without using the national currency?
They most certainly can!
They raise that which you must give to them! "taxes"
In the american economy you are always paying for cheap money with expensive money.
a point certain people on these boards avoid like the bubonic plague.
I did an example of this on this board I believe.
There was a moment in 1933 just before roosevelt declared bankruptcy that the dollar went up to a value of one dollar.
That said if you take a million dollars put it in the bank and collect 6% paying a meager 20% taxes on the gains until 2009 where you take it out inflation adjust it then how much do you have in your hand?
Most people were shocked to discover they only had shit I forget but it was about 400,000 left!
Investment return after 72 years of 6% interest inflation adjusted minus 600 grand on a million!. oh yeh!
Who controls that you? me? How do you claculate your retirement?
Of course reality does not sound as good as the pseudo economic gurus out here tooting their creative horns of futile rearrangement and pretending anything will change on a macro level.
here:
The validity of the public debt of the United States … shall not be questioned.” 14th Amendment, Section 4
It’s equivalent to a mortgage, they just assign the property to someone else and collect payment through taxes.
YOU OWE OBLIGATIONS!
“Allodial. Free; not holden on any lord or superior; owned without obligation of vassalage or fealty…”
“Fee simple. A fee simple absolute is an estate limited absolutely to a man and his heirs and assignees forever without limitation or condition. An absolute or fee simple estate is one in which the owner is entitled to the entire property, with unconditional power of disposition during his life, and descending to his heirs and legal representatives upon his death in testate.”
That is old, now days you would need “God” title to compete with the syntax terrorism of the guv who now claims “Ultimate” title to all property.
Think I am wrong?
Tell them you are no longer interested in their services and see if they stop sending you a tax bill.
They have a GREATER interest in your property than you do. Its all in the butchered law.
In fact your property is so important it is a matter of national security! It holds up the monetary system! Just like feudal times!
Da guv is the landlord and you RENT and are called "owner". lol
The United States did go "Bankrupt" in 1933 and was declared so by President Roosevelt by Executive Orders 6073, 6102, 6111 and by Executive Order 6260 on March 9, 1933, under the "Trading With The Enemy Act" of October 6, 1917, AS AMENDED by the Emergency Banking Relief Act, 48 Stat 1, Public Law No. 1, which is presently codified at 12 USCA 95a and confirmed at 95b. You can confirm this for yourself by reading it on FindLaw.
Thereafter, Congress confirmed the bankruptcy on June 5, 1933, and thereupon impaired the obligations and considerations of contracts through the "Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard And Abrogate The Gold clause, June 5, 1933" (See: HJR-192, 73rd Congress, 1st Session).
When the Courts were called upon to rule on various of the provisions designed to implement and compliment FDR's Emergency BANKING Relief Act of March 9, 1933, they were all found unconstitutional, so what FDR did was simply stack the "Court's" with HIS chosen obsequious members of the bench/bar and then sent many of the cases back through and REVERSED the rulings.
House Joint Resolution 192 (HJR-192), 48 Stat. 112, was passed by Congress on June 5, 1933. The 'Act' impaired the obligations and considerations of contacts and declared that the notes of the Federal Reserve banks were "legal tender" for the payment of both public and private debts, and that payment in gold Coin was against "public policy". (In effect, FDR and Congress, under executive orders and legislative fiat, nationalized the people's money, i.e., their gold Coin.
Conversion from public law to public “policy” (demobcracy)
“Hypothecate. To pledge property as security or collateral for a debt. Generally, there is no physical transfer of the pledged property to the lender; nor is the lender given title to the property; though he has a right to sell the pledged property upon default.”
Nationalization is a violation of the Law of Nations and existing public policy of Congress. See: Hilton vs. Guyot, 159 U.S. 113 (1895). The gold Coin that was confiscated (nationalized) was later used to purchase voting stockholder shares in The Bank and The Fund at $35 per ounce.) At this point in time, "Fair Market Value", i.e., a willing seller and buyer, without compulsion, lost any substantial meaning.
in a word yeh they can! and they do! and it aint getting no better because people do not understand the mechanisms they are dealing with!
< Message edited by Real0ne -- 7/31/2011 2:26:38 PM >
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