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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

The Americans have a two party system, much like ours. They have the Republicans, who are like our conservative party, and the Democrats, who are also like our conservative party.

(Peter Cook)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
I know you're a man who enjoys getting his shit wrong, but you live in a republic, not a democracy.

kool tell us how you came to the conclusion it is a republic and not a democracy?  good luck on this one LOL

It isn't hard to come to that conclusion, article 4 clause 4 section 1.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
I know you're a man who enjoys getting his shit wrong, but you live in a republic, not a democracy.

kool tell us how you came to the conclusion it is a republic and not a democracy?  good luck on this one LOL

The OED is quite firm that there's a difference between a democracy where everybody* has a say in governance (the sort of thing that worked in a Greek city state with a smallish population during the late bronze age and hasn't really been tried outside of a few communes and kibbutzes since), and a republic, which is ruled by elected representatives, which means that democracy only comes around for an election every few years.
(You'll also note that this constitution thing which you're forever misprisioning to bizarre effect makes a big deal of referring to your country as a republic.)

*(besides slaves, women, paupers and other such undesirables)

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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto
In the context of federal government expenditures, do you define retirement checks and medical disability checks to military and civilian federal government employees "entitlements" or "obligations"?

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ORIGINAL: gaybottomslave


1. I notice you didn't take me up on my offer to do a bunch of work for me around my house and then allow me to give the money that you worked for to someone who is poor and homeless. Why is it that?

2. Do you have any idea on how bat-shit crazy you sound? You've basically hit all the major leftist talking points without really saying anything of substance.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Ok so then in your opinion in the United States we get to choose who we want to RULE us for some term and that is what makes us a republic right?

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Hey Lucy, you got off lightly! gaybottomslave didn't criticise you in advance for making personal attacks did he?

Usually our resident wing nuts are very sensitive about personal attacks. They're allowed to make them (as in gaybottomslave's odious post about you) but no one else is allowed to respond in kind. So, in their eyes, you're breaking the rules.

As usual with wing nuts, truth is not an acceptable reason or defence - it's not even a recognised or familiar virtue on that part of the political spectrum.

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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

Entitlement is a legal term created by the court system

If you meet a certain standard you are entitled to said benefit. ie: if your income falls below this line and you have so many dependents you are entitled to a set amount of welfare and/or food stamps.

On the other hand the GOP has called Social Security an entitlement and it is not. 
You pay a SS payroll tax for this.  It is a trust fund created out of tax payer money.  If you do not pay into Social Security, you do not get Social Security, the same is true with Medicare, you pay a payroll tax your entire life, and then when the certain triggers are pulled you can draw from this fund.  Mostly after you pass age 65 and the private insurance companies have dropped you because they made their profit.

Our elected officials use the term "entitlement" to create a class divide, and to sway those who can only grasp sound bytes

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastica)

I have a job,
b) I dont work for idiots or people without compassion for the poor and sick
c) do it your fucking self you lazy ass why would I even believe a word that comes out of your mouth, let alone take a job from some no name pixel on the internetz
d) I pay my taxes and I get healthcare, and..guess what I prefer to pay more so that every citizen gets their healthcare(or most of it ) covered.
e) Ive lived in a socialist *fuck* country since I was born and I will NEVER have it any other way.
f)I believe in human rights for ALL citizens, not just those who can pay


PS you didnt respond to any of my points or questions, so until you do, you can whistle dixie, because you are still full of shit
You have only written what every right winger writes, the same crap time after time, you cant see the truth that everyone else sees. Also, because you are part of the problem not in any way working towards a solution.

Bat shit crazy???? no Im just a liberal pinko commie treehugging pacifist. oh and a furrigner.
Too hard for you to understand maybe, I know how people like you cant handle anything too complicated.
Its a shame you cannot get away from the right wing ditto head bullshit. but I fear you are a lost cause and liable to be a very very unhappy camper for the next six years.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: gaybottomslave


1. I notice you didn't take me up on my offer to do a bunch of work for me around my house and then allow me to give the money that you worked for to someone who is poor and homeless. Why is it that?

2. Do you have any idea on how bat-shit crazy you sound? You've basically hit all the major leftist talking points without really saying anything of substance.

a) I have a job,
b) I dont work for idiots or people without compassion for the poor and sick
c) do it your fucking self you lazy ass why would I even believe a word that comes out of your mouth, let alone take a job from some no name pixel on the internetz
d) I pay my taxes and I get healthcare, and..guess what I prefer to pay more so that every citizen gets their healthcare(or most of it ) covered.
e) Ive lived in a socialist *fuck* country since I was born and I will NEVER have it any other way.
f)I believe in human rights for ALL citizens, not just those who can pay


PS you didnt respond to any of my points or questions, so until you do, you can whistle dixie, because you are still full of shit
You have only written what every right winger writes, the same crap time after time, you cant see the truth that everyone else sees. Also, because you are part of the problem not in any way working towards a solution.

Bat shit crazy???? no Im just a liberal pinko commie treehugging pacifist. oh and a furrigner.
Too hard for you to understand maybe, I know how people like you cant handle anything too complicated.
Its a shame you cannot get away from the right wing ditto head bullshit. but I fear you are a lost cause and liable to be a very very unhappy camper for the next six years.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: gaybottomslave


1. I notice you didn't take me up on my offer to do a bunch of work for me around my house and then allow me to give the money that you worked for to someone who is poor and homeless. Why is it that?

2. Do you have any idea on how bat-shit crazy you sound? You've basically hit all the major leftist talking points without really saying anything of substance.

a) I have a job,
b) I dont work for idiots or people without compassion for the poor and sick
c) do it your fucking self you lazy ass why would I even believe a word that comes out of your mouth, let alone take a job from some no name pixel on the internetz
d) I pay my taxes and I get healthcare, and..guess what I prefer to pay more so that every citizen gets their healthcare(or most of it ) covered.
e) Ive lived in a socialist *fuck* country since I was born and I will NEVER have it any other way.
f)I believe in human rights for ALL citizens, not just those who can pay


PS you didnt respond to any of my points or questions, so until you do, you can whistle dixie, because you are still full of shit
You have only written what every right winger writes, the same crap time after time, you cant see the truth that everyone else sees. Also, because you are part of the problem not in any way working towards a solution.

Bat shit crazy???? no Im just a liberal pinko commie treehugging pacifist. oh and a furrigner.
Too hard for you to understand maybe, I know how people like you cant handle anything too complicated.
Its a shame you cannot get away from the right wing ditto head bullshit. but I fear you are a lost cause and liable to be a very very unhappy camper for the next six years.

Now, I said, you could go and whistle dixie, I meant it, I have no need of your ignorance and twirly arguments, go sit n spin....
Come back when you are actually debating and not being a little whine arse. Oh and grab a thicker skin while you are out, and a dictionary. your dictionary must be an awfully slim volume, as thin as your skin

Try to live by your own words and advice, and it might help.
pssssst a clue, calling someone bathit crazy is not the way to get a reasonable response in any language.
done with you....nexttttttt

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

Entitlement is a legal term created by the court system

If you meet a certain standard you are entitled to said benefit. ie: if your income falls below this line and you have so many dependents you are entitled to a set amount of welfare and/or food stamps.

On the other hand the GOP has called Social Security an entitlement and it is not. 
You pay a SS payroll tax for this.  It is a trust fund created out of tax payer money.  If you do not pay into Social Security, you do not get Social Security, the same is true with Medicare, you pay a payroll tax your entire life, and then when the certain triggers are pulled you can draw from this fund.  Mostly after you pass age 65 and the private insurance companies have dropped you because they made their profit.

Our elected officials use the term "entitlement" to create a class divide, and to sway those who can only grasp sound bytes

Except for singling out the GOP for this, you are correct. In fact I even chastised BOR for allowing that misnomer to creep into a discussion of the debt ceiling. The response (from a staffer I hope!) was that the word has become more general and applied to all government benefits....which was exactly what I warned him against allowing!

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Ok so then in your opinion in the United States we get to choose who we want to RULE us for some term and that is what makes us a republic right?

Nothing to do with my opinion, sweetie. It's one of those legal definition things.