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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 6:50:43 PM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		It's also how candidates get on the ballot, Rodg.

Ken, thanks again for showing off that authoritarian streak, so potent in the left.  Keep up he good work.

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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 8:16:29 PM   
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It's also how candidates get on the ballot, Rodg.

Ken, thanks again for showing off that authoritarian streak, so potent in the left.  Keep up he good work.

It's not authoritarioan liar. I simply think California would be better off without the ballot initiatives that have so thoroughly messed up the state. I'm all for the California government, a republic.

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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 8:31:41 PM   
Owner59


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Status: offline 		Fear mongering?

That`s your weak pathetic spin....

This, is fear mongering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83XcGFIBmxY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRt1SwLzKYc&feature=related and on an evil teleprompter no less.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN576dlQ7u4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr4N8tBwA2Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c37GQaTNqwE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfJv6i5ih5k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcMKWjaDyis&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_VS7fzdAq4&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WMnI6kGXOQ&feature=related





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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 8:44:20 PM   
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That doesn`t matter,it`s from redstate so it`s bullshit.
what the fuck??  you're fucking kidding right?  it doesn't matter if their facts are on the up and up or not it's bullshit because you disagree with the politics of the source?

holy mary's untouched cunt, and you fuckers wonder what is wrong with your country.


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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 8:52:00 PM   
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That doesn`t matter,it`s from redstate so it`s bullshit.
what the fuck??  you're fucking kidding right?  it doesn't matter if their facts are on the up and up or not it's bullshit because you disagree with the politics of the source?

holy mary's untouched cunt, and you fuckers wonder what is wrong with your country.



If you knew that made shit up constantly,lying to get advantage they others wise woundn`t earn,would you not at least question their bias and credibility?

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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 9:01:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		you didn't question, you dismissed it despite the fact that it was apparently correct. and you did it solely based on the politics of the source. that shows a narrowness of mind that is fucking scary. basically you're just a slave to your own fucking propaganda. the refusal to think for oneself is pathetic no matter which side you're on.

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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 9:11:46 PM   
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you didn't question, you dismissed it despite the fact that it was apparently correct. and you did it solely based on the politics of the source. that shows a narrowness of mind that is fucking scary. basically you're just a slave to your own fucking propaganda. the refusal to think for oneself is pathetic no matter which side you're on.

I got a neighbor who once told me that Jews secretly run the banks,the world,etc.

I don`t need any more reason to dismiss him or any other thing he says,even if 99% of what he says is true.That`s perfectly reasonable.

His credibility is shot with me.

When you tell half the truth ,you`re lying.

That`s how I feel about redstate.And that`s perfectly reasonable.

Capiche?


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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 9:14:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		How cute.  You actually think you have enough credibility for me to waste my time clicking your links, O59?  Isn't that precious.

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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 9:19:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		No you don`t want to.It`ll be to embarassing you and the other fear exploiting con-nutters.

Willful ignorance and intellectual cowardice have always been your strongest qualities.They aren`t your you anyway.


They are for everyone else on the boards.



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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 9:23:04 PM   
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And that`s perfectly reasonable.
no it's not. it's fucking intellectual cowardice.

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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 9:25:03 PM   
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And that`s perfectly reasonable.
no it's not. it's fucking intellectual cowardice.

Buhb-by

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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 9:29:07 PM   
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It's also how candidates get on the ballot, Rodg.

Ken, thanks again for showing off that authoritarian streak, so potent in the left.  Keep up he good work.

It's not authoritarioan liar. I simply think California would be better off without the ballot initiatives that have so thoroughly messed up the state. I'm all for the California government, a republic.



Well that's nice, Ken.  Maybe you can move out here, and change it.  No doubt we get some nonsense on the ballot, but we get our say, too (medical marijuana being a nice example).  I notice you conveniently ignoring that frightening people away from participating in the process is an easy way to control who gets into those legislative houses you have such confidence in.  

Authoritarian, Ken.  Go look yourself in the eye in the mirror, and repeat it three times.  Get used to it. 


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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 9:33:51 PM   
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sad little fuck. really sad.


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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 9:49:54 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=085IADWSZlk&feature=related


Which has precisely what to do with trying to keep people from participating in the process, O59?

We know.  It's unions.  You support it, regardless.  At least you aren't still pretending free speech means anything at all to you.

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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 10:10:53 PM   
Owner59


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Status: offline 		This is what you do,debate champ,when you get called on your bullshit trolling.You get belligerent and pouty.

Look what abusing the recall petitions got you.....arnold-de-loooover....

Davis was a moderate who won the election fairly and squarely.

But whiny assed losers like yourself aren`t ok with democracy,elections and election results you don`t like.

So a few con-ass hats started the recall and Issa spent all his fool`s money(2 million) getting Davis recalled,thinking he`d win the recall election.Big dope he was,Issa didn`t see the terminal-impregnator coming,and ended up with nothing for his two mil. .

Bunch of dopey losers.I don`t think one could write a more rediculous comedy than what your petitions gave you.

Talk about reeping what you sow.

Following election results and the people`s will isn`t authoritarianism.It`s called democracy.Look it up.

Is this how you won your HS debates,redefining terms like authoritarian?




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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 10:33:11 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VW0v7wwfkQ

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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 10:53:24 PM   
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I hope this fearmongering party foul (at minimum) blows up in the faces of the people behind it. Your thoughts?

I've always found that education is the best defense to fear.

How to tell a legit petit!

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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 10:54:59 PM   
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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 11:18:10 PM   
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Maybe you missed it but we don't live in a democracy but a republic. We choose people to make decisions. We do not put everything to a diect vote of the people. California has proven why this is a very bad idea.


Maybe you missed it but another name for our form of government is representative democracy.


Maybe you are completely wrong as usual.

And this comes from a conservative website so you should love it:

ThisNation.com--Is the United States a democracy?


[i]The United States is, indeed, a republic, not a democracy.

Accurately defined, a democracy is a form of government in which the people decide policy matters directly--through town hall meetings or by voting on ballot initiatives and referendums.

A republic, on the other hand, is a system in which the people choose representatives who, in turn, make policy decisions on their behalf. The Framers of the Constitution were altogether fearful of pure democracy. Everything they read and studied taught them that pure democracies "have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths" (Federalist No. 10).

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RE: Fearmongering and political petitions - 8/4/2011 11:35:49 PM   
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Maybe you [Willbur] are completely wrong as usual.


Awwww rml, you are being so un-patriotic! Be nice to Willbur! Don't you know that Willbur is a Genuine American Hero?

Here's one fully documented eye-witness account of his heroism:
"It was a couple of days before Easter '72. The last of NVA's artillery rounds had slammed directly into our bunker. All hope was lost until Combat Army Medic Wilbur pulled me out of the rubble and led me to safety. Wilbur a true American Hero!!!" http://www.collarchat.com/m_3794370/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm#3795741

Exemplary heroes like this are allowed to get a detail or two wrong - even if it is, as in Willbur's case, every detail in every post wrong. They have earned the right to invent, embellish and twist the truth to their own purposes whenever they feel like it. Where would we be without the Willburs of this world?





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