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SAMHAIN09 -> If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/3/2011 9:36:39 PM)

I think it's either a place of fire or filled with torture like BDSM only not as pleasant who knows maybe it's both.




littlewonder -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/3/2011 9:45:18 PM)

Hell is a distancing from God. It is being apart from his Glory.

Hell is an absence/withdrawal of God's presence in one's life.






Aylee -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/3/2011 9:52:27 PM)

Isn't their some snot-nosed poet named Virgil hanging around hell?




tazzygirl -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/3/2011 9:52:54 PM)

If Ihad to believe in a "hell", it would be more like hell on earth. Something we have to live through.

But, to be honest, I believe we all make our own levels of heaven and hell.




tweakabelle -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/3/2011 10:13:23 PM)

In Buddhism, heaven and hell are emotional states that people experience here and now.

For me this a far healthier and nicer way of thinking of it - as opposed to the fire and brimstone version so beloved by fundamentalist Christians.




Kirata -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/3/2011 10:16:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

as opposed to the fire and brimstone version so beloved by fundamentalist Christians.

All religion is symbolic. When religion ceases to be symbolic, it ceases to be religion. That is why talking about Christian or Jewish or Muslim fundamentalism is analogous to talking about paranoid schizophrenia: The adjective just describes the particular form that the illness has taken.

K.




Termyn8or -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/3/2011 10:37:35 PM)

I believe that we are not fully aware when we exist in our corporeal bodies. Some strive but can only approach full awareness. Once the corporeal life has ended, then one is fully aware and that includes all the consequences of his actions, as well as the good. The good does not directly abate the bad. If you kill Joe and save John, Joe is still dead. As such there is no forgiveness for the taking of a life.

That may sound a bit out of character for one such as I but it is not. It is within my sphere of what life really is. In that some life must go on and other life must not. I just ate some beef, I don't want cows trying to kick their way out of me. We live by death and we must accept that, and when we truly do that means we accept our own death.

Then we are truly free. My Father told me, and he had been in jail here and there; "They can lock up my body but they cannot lock up my mind". What does that mean ? He never feared death and taught me to do the same. Now folks, the only way to beat a fear of death is to look it right in the eye. We, more than once stood with loaded and cocked firearms aimed right at each others' heads, and we did this when we were REALLY pissed at each other. Each time, obviously we decided not to pull the trigger.

So while death should not be feared, it must be understood that it is a one way street. Some believe in reincarnation, but I do not. Perhaps upon death one is reborn, but that would be into a diferent reality. Not some different dimension like on Star Trek or some shit, but as energy, not mass. There is a part of our brain that may be what we consider the soul, that is just energy. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, just changed in form, sometimes into mass.

Now if the energy of the human mind is energy created solely out of the mass of our intake while alive, it would stand to reason that this energy would return to it's state of being mass upon our death, right ? Well if that were true then when the actual moment of death came, we would weigh just a hair more after the moment of death.

But the opposite is true. This line of thinking has taken me in many directions at once and also in one direction. Mass, and therefore matter, does not exist. It only exists in our perception, which we percieve as real because we are made of the same thing. If this is true then some of the scientific mysteries might be solved, but right now it is only my personal belief.

There is a theory of the universe being a holographic projection, this reconciles just fine with that. People wonder about those times when supposedly some sort of telepathy was faster than C, with a couple of those instances not being disproved satisfactorily. But that is in someone else's mind, not mine.

So we die, and all that is left is energy. Now your name, your gender, your hair color, nationality, your NAME, all that is based on corporeal existence, which you now have none. Who are you ?

The ultimate collectivism some might say. Now if you really think about it and everyone is totally aware and forcibly empathic to EVERY DEED THEY DID in life, that would certainly be heaven for some, and hell for others.

Take your pick.

T^T




Owner59 -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/3/2011 10:44:03 PM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnevk-6h6aI&feature=related




FirstQuaker -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/3/2011 10:51:54 PM)

Dark, cold, wet and drafty with low ceilings.




Hippiekinkster -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/3/2011 10:59:37 PM)

Charles de Gaulle Airport.




Termyn8or -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/4/2011 12:08:48 AM)

My basement. Drain plugged by tree roots and fifty grand worth of machinery getting ruined. And the hell part isn't here, the hell part is moving all this shit ! Heavy as fuck !

T^T




HannahLynHeather -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/4/2011 7:33:31 AM)

toronto.




LillyBoPeep -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/4/2011 7:40:51 AM)

i was reading about near-death experiences and all that stuff (i find that stuff fascinating, so sue me), and many of the people who claim to have left and come back also claim that hell is something that's self-imposed by a soul that can't either accept death or can't deal with the things s/he did in physical life. one person said he didn't realize how bad of a person he was until he died and saw himself through clear eyes. when he came back, he changed.

so i dunno... i think that sounds like a really sound theory though. there are few punishments worse than those a person inflicts on himself.




Hillwilliam -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/4/2011 7:42:44 AM)

It's this forum except you will never be able to log out.




Lucylastic -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/4/2011 7:44:00 AM)

I was gonna say watching the righties circle jerking and not being able to find the door




lockedaway -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/4/2011 7:44:11 AM)

You are married to LucyLastic and you have to spend all eternity in an 8 x 8 room with her.  <shudder>




Lucylastic -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/4/2011 7:45:56 AM)

awwwwwwwwwww you lubs me, you big baby




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/4/2011 8:06:10 AM)

as one who believes in reincarnation, hell is where you find it,I can't believe we shall burn in fire..We all have had our hellish days on earth,I have had many of those days..Its what you believe and I respect your beliefs..When its time to go,I shall turn into a bright comet flying thur the universe,spiting off little parts of me u till there is no more..I shall return one day that is promised..B




Icarys -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/4/2011 8:09:19 AM)

My left nut itching something fierce and not being able to scratch it.




Icarys -> RE: If there is a hell what do you think it's like? (8/4/2011 8:12:49 AM)

quote:

i was reading about near-death experiences and all that stuff (i find that stuff fascinating, so sue me), and many of the people who claim to have left and come back also claim that hell is something that's self-imposed by a soul that can't either accept death or can't deal with the things s/he did in physical life.

That's their interpretation. I had a very peaceful and pleasant experience.




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