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RE: Have no fear! US Economy: well on the way to recov... - 8/10/2011 11:13:05 AM   
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Cute, and you are taxing inflated money, arguement destroyed.  Next.

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RE: Have no fear! US Economy: well on the way to recov... - 8/10/2011 12:25:27 PM   
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Cute, and you are taxing inflated money, arguement destroyed.  Next.


wtf are you talking about?

every dollar in your pocket is inflated every second you have it in your pocket! 

argument proven!  next!


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RE: Have no fear! US Economy: well on the way to recov... - 8/10/2011 12:39:51 PM   
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Ja, look.  My father used to say:

If you got a thousand dollars in your pocket, it ain't a hell of a lot of money. But if you owe it to somebody..............

You are making the same specious though I will admit (emotionally true) arguement.

But money doesn't really operate from relativity. It acts the same (no matter how you do it, paper, zinc, gold, seashells, salt, stones, or foreskins...) regardless of who's pocket contains it. 

You are inflating the dollar, making it more worthless, but are straightlining the taxes (which also becomes more worthless).

Never mind that inflation (and deflation) really suck ass.....there never is an equilibrium, as I have stated before.....somebody (and those somebodies are nearly everybody gets fucked) ..... hell even the gubamafia employees who fuck up the economy along with us. 

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RE: Have no fear! US Economy: well on the way to recov... - 8/11/2011 7:24:40 PM   
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Wtf is this about?

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Ja, look.  My father used to say:

If you got a thousand dollars in your pocket, it ain't a hell of a lot of money. But if you owe it to somebody..............

punchline?  Now I know you are old as dirt but stay awake long enough to give ut the punch line!


You are making the same specious though I will admit (emotionally true) arguement.

what is an emotionally true argument?  I do not know of any such thing?


But money doesn't really operate from relativity.

Huh?  Dood wtf you talking about?  Thats aimless rambling.


It acts the same (no matter how you do it, paper, zinc, gold, seashells, salt, stones, or foreskins...) regardless of who's pocket contains it.

How is that?


You are inflating the dollar, making it more worthless, but are straightlining the taxes (which also becomes more worthless).

No its really easy to understand.  IN fact its so simple it escapes literally everyone.  YOu see taxes only operate on PROFITS.  inflation operates on ALL SOFT ASSETS and som hard assets as well.


Never mind that inflation (and deflation) really suck ass.....there never is an equilibrium, as I have stated before.....somebody (and those somebodies are nearly everybody gets fucked) ..... hell even the gubamafia employees who fuck up the economy along with us. 


Its impossible to have a rock solid economy, so you will get inflation and deflation.


In fact if you go back and look at the chart you will see that the fed did NOTHIHG to stop the inflation deflation cycles they only put it up on the inflationary side of the equation.

When you have inflation and deflation the money holds its same value, hence the labor you put in and worked your ass off for stays the same.

With inflation your labor over time becomes worthless as does your investments and you pay taxes upon more taxes just trying to maintaining equilibrium to avoid losses!!!

That is why the guy in the us economy only made 100 bucks after 100 years, in the infation economy and the guy who is in the noninflation economy made 23,000 bucks!

Which would you prefer?  Let them piss it all away with this inflation debt economy?

Teh top it all off with the gubafia having 110 trillion in their investment accounts aside from the gact it is a conflict in interest, is the major cause as pulling it out of circulation increases inflation accordingly.


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RE: Have no fear! US Economy: well on the way to recov... - 8/12/2011 6:00:24 AM   
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Your horseshit is only surpassed by your stupidity and vast ignorance

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RE: Have no fear! US Economy: well on the way to recov... - 8/12/2011 12:20:39 PM   
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I have to admit I sort of chuckle the way you go down kicking and screaming all the way! LOL

Sucks when the shit you people voted to swim in drowns you and turns out to be fraud perpetrated upon you from people you trust in office is jammed down your throat and laid out and proven before your sorry eyes! 







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RE: Have no fear! US Economy: well on the way to recov... - 8/12/2011 12:37:37 PM   
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no, the incoherant babbling you constantly engage in sort of gets tiring.

Other than that I take a none too guilty pleasure in watching you spazz.

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RE: Have no fear! US Economy: well on the way to recov... - 8/12/2011 4:04:29 PM   
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since no one has even smudged the paint much less put a dent in this:


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ok this has been up here long enough and no one has demonstrated knowledge as to why inflation is so destructive even beyond taxation as I have shown in the spread sheet.





what every one fails to see is the difference in the way taxes work versus inflation.

Inflation works on the sum total of all assets ("soft" and some hard assets as well), both new money coming in and old money and assets that you already have, everything.

Taxes only operate against "profits", new money etc coming in
and leaves your old money, the money, the assets you already have alone.


It appears that no one here is capable of doing their own taxes, and if that is the case there is no way in hell they can figure out how inflation works.

For those who do not understand how this works, when you file your taxes you only pay taxes on "new income", profits, etc.

Inflation on the other hand invisibly takes the value away from your all your soft assets, NOT just profits and new income.

People foolishly think that "prices are going up" and its a natural occurance and it is not.  It is the value of the dollar going down as a result of devaluing inflation, and then everyone is forced into raising prices to make up for the LOSS OF VALUE.

There are 2 sides to supply and demand equation and the money we only get one side, the devaluation side and never the re-valuation side.  In other words we continually inflate reducing the value of the dollar and NEVER DEFLATE TO REPLACE THE LOSS AND INCREASE the value of the dollar.

Its a constant loss of wealth.

Inflation slowly steals your labor and your assets by milking it from you and unseen to you.

When money is capped by a resource there is no excuses that a guv mafia can make to get around it.  When they went off the gold standard the caps were removed and they now have a blank check and what do we imagine they will do with a blank check?  The value of a dollar is maybe about a cent right now and about to get much lower.

They do not give a fuck about you or me all they care about is themselves.  They knew this when when they made this system and they play on the ignorance of the people and the proof is that no one here was able to point out how inflation works and why the big difference in your wealth without it.






Not one self professed economic guhoo has the balls to step up to the plate and challenge this for one reason.

its correct.




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RE: Have no fear! US Economy: well on the way to recov... - 8/12/2011 4:12:42 PM   
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No, its a waste of time. It pales beyond ignorant, beyond stupid, it is moronic, most of the principle (the old money plus that little bit of a couple hundred you gained) will be taxed as it is spent, and oh, BTW you forgot to add 20 a year in property taxes, never mind the capital gains you already have there....so you actually have........

hmmmmmmmmmmmm, where is that on this mystical and oracle graphic, made by some innumerate or another?

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RE: Have no fear! US Economy: well on the way to recov... - 8/12/2011 11:32:40 PM   
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Hey, you are a foreign investor, a Chinese official. You have put one fifth of your money into the US debt, and another fifth into the Chinese economy.; You could lose forty percent.; Man this could really suck huh ?

You are  foreign investor, that doesn't mean you invested in the US, that would be stupid because of the low returns. The only thing that keeps certain countries into wasting their money on our debt is the illusion that they will own this country, the breadbasket. Something they need. You all missed that ? So you did. But then they have to deal with the insurrection.

Refer to the Sheeple thread for guidance.

T^T

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RE: Have no fear! US Economy: well on the way to recov... - 8/13/2011 10:21:30 AM   
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well yo ucan show people in black and white how they are getting fucked and you get



it takes years of indoctrination to get that kind of a response to being fucked out of everything they ever worked for.

Many people over 65 are lucky to die with the pants on their asses.


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RE: Have no fear! US Economy: well on the way to recov... - 8/13/2011 8:49:30 PM   
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The problem here RO, is that everyone with a brain has already figured this out.

Your mission Mister Plelps, if you choose to accept it, is to fix this problem. This tape will self destruct in eight seconds.

T^T

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