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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 8:43:06 AM   
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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 8:55:07 AM   
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Oops. Sorry. Wasn't intentional. Rangy fucking bitch. Got it.
I wouldn't invite Myself or insist on going. He is actually insisting I go on the weekend duck hunting trip, I didn't ask to go, so his guy time isn't that important. He even bought me waders. And like I said, other women go on the fishing trips. It is more a marine biologist trip than a guy trip.
We want what we want. I am really not trying to fuck up his life, and it isn't like we are so involved we couldn't end the relationship. We are obviously both going to have to make changes for this to work. Like, he really doesn't want to live as rural and remote as I do, so I am probably going to have to give that up. I am willing to do that.

But I am not going through what I did in my marriage. Yes, I got really good at entertaining myself, did the dog and horse show circuit, all of it. That isn't what. I want out of a relationship now.

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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 10:30:24 AM   
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I still have to wonder why this is such a huge issue for you. You mentioned your past marriage and it comes across as his being away from you for large periods of time. I don't know if that is the case, it's just the impression you gave. Your current boyfriend is not going for that long out of the year. You have said that you feel what you feel, but, I don't think that's really the reason.

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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 10:52:02 AM   
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I was married for 20 years, and my ex and I mostly took separate vacations, because we had very different interests. Also, I really liked being home when he wasn't there. Sometimes I wonder if things would have been different if we hadn't done that.
So now I am seeing a man that I really enjoy being with. He is pretty vanilla, but openminded, and we have lots in common. He is currently away on a long range sport fishing trip, and I am really struggling with him not being around for 10 days. He has another trip scheduled in November for 3 weeks, and he goes on both these trips annually. These two trips wee scheduled before we even met.
The question is, I am getting kind of upset about him being away so much. Am I wrong in not wanting him to go, and telling him that?


First, let go of the baggage. It's heavy and not serving you well. This guy isn't your ex so quit making him carry your insecurity. Second, your profile lists that you are only seeking friends but the context of the profile itself makes it seem like you are still looking for a dominant partner. Is Mr. "Pretty Vanilla" going to be enough for what it is you 'know' you want? That's just something to think about.

You are in the blush of a new relationship, so it's pretty normal to want to spend a lot of your time around him. I'm in that phase myself. It's only been 15 years so I'm thinking in another 15 or 20 or so, I'll probably not want to spend all my time with him. That said, unless and until you are happy and comfortable in your own company doesn't it seem like you're putting a lot of pressure on Mr. Pretty Vanilla to provide to you what you aren't providing to yourself already?

Ten days and you are already worrying about something in the future .. something which hasn't even happened yet because of what you feel 'right now'. Hell, Mr. Pretty Vanilla might not be in your life in four months, so quit worrying about what you 'might' feel at that time and work on getting through the next ten days.

Keep breathing, get into some of the hobbies you've always enjoyed, go see a stupid movie, listen to a Randy Newman song, work, walk, whatever.. you know.. the stuff you did before you met him. When you get in those moments where you are just feeling overwhelmed, breath through them, get through *that* moment and if you need to do it again in the next moment, do that, too. A few moments strung together aren't going to do you any damage. You *can* get through them.

You can't help what you feel, I grant that.. but you can choose how you react to those feelings. Try to react in ways which are positive and help you.

Best of luck!



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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 10:53:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

I was married for 20 years, and my ex and I mostly took separate vacations, because we had very different interests. Also, I really liked being home when he wasn't there. Sometimes I wonder if things would have been different if we hadn't done that.
So now I am seeing a man that I really enjoy being with. He is pretty vanilla, but openminded, and we have lots in common. He is currently away on a long range sport fishing trip, and I am really struggling with him not being around for 10 days. He has another trip scheduled in November for 3 weeks, and he goes on both these trips annually. These two trips wee scheduled before we even met.
The question is, I am getting kind of upset about him being away so much. Am I wrong in not wanting him to go, and telling him that?


First, let go of the baggage. It's heavy and not serving you well. This guy isn't your ex so quit making him carry your insecurity. Second, your profile lists that you are only seeking friends but the context of the profile itself makes it seem like you are still looking for a dominant partner. Is Mr. "Pretty Vanilla" going to be enough for what it is you 'know' you want? That's just something to think about.

You are in the blush of a new relationship, so it's pretty normal to want to spend a lot of your time around him. I'm in that phase myself. It's only been 15 years so I'm thinking in another 15 or 20 or so, I'll probably not want to spend all my time with him. That said, unless and until you are happy and comfortable in your own company doesn't it seem like you're putting a lot of pressure on Mr. Pretty Vanilla to provide to you what you aren't providing to yourself already?

Ten days and you are already worrying about something in the future .. something which hasn't even happened yet because of what you feel 'right now'. Hell, Mr. Pretty Vanilla might not be in your life in four months, so quit worrying about what you 'might' feel at that time and work on getting through the next ten days.

Keep breathing, get into some of the hobbies you've always enjoyed, go see a stupid movie, listen to a Randy Newman song, work, walk, whatever.. you know.. the stuff you did before you met him. When you get in those moments where you are just feeling overwhelmed, breath through them, get through *that* moment and if you need to do it again in the next moment, do that, too. A few moments strung together aren't going to do you any damage. You *can* get through them.

You can't help what you feel, I grant that.. but you can choose how you react to those feelings. Try to react in ways which are positive and help you.

Best of luck!





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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 11:46:36 AM   
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Good point on the baggage, but it isn't as easy as you think to let go of all that.  His long term marriage also ended, and I wonder how much of it had to do with having such separate interests.  As for my profile, well, I thought I had made it abundantly clear that I wasn't looking anymore, but good point, I will change it again.  IN answer to whether Pretty Vanilla is going to be enough, yep, I think so.  He has enough of the other qualities I am looking for that I am willing to work pretty hard on the dominant aspects with him.  Interesting person, smart, great job, responsible, close to his family, loves the outdoors, I can go on and on.

I think maybe what I am not making clear is that I don't want hobbies or whatever to fill the time when he is gone, I want to be with him during my leisure time and his, we are apart enough because of work and living circumstances.  I already have hobbies. Walk?  Keep breathing?  Umm, it isn't  like I sat around on my ass this weekend feeling sad,  watching bad movies and listening to Randy Newman songs, I ran in the Hood to Coast relay race.  So what?  I still feel the way I do.  If running 15 miles and not sleeping for 36 hours is not going to get my mind off it, nothing is. 

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

I was married for 20 years, and my ex and I mostly took separate vacations, because we had very different interests. Also, I really liked being home when he wasn't there. Sometimes I wonder if things would have been different if we hadn't done that.
So now I am seeing a man that I really enjoy being with. He is pretty vanilla, but openminded, and we have lots in common. He is currently away on a long range sport fishing trip, and I am really struggling with him not being around for 10 days. He has another trip scheduled in November for 3 weeks, and he goes on both these trips annually. These two trips wee scheduled before we even met.
The question is, I am getting kind of upset about him being away so much. Am I wrong in not wanting him to go, and telling him that?


First, let go of the baggage. It's heavy and not serving you well. This guy isn't your ex so quit making him carry your insecurity. Second, your profile lists that you are only seeking friends but the context of the profile itself makes it seem like you are still looking for a dominant partner. Is Mr. "Pretty Vanilla" going to be enough for what it is you 'know' you want? That's just something to think about.

You are in the blush of a new relationship, so it's pretty normal to want to spend a lot of your time around him. I'm in that phase myself. It's only been 15 years so I'm thinking in another 15 or 20 or so, I'll probably not want to spend all my time with him. That said, unless and until you are happy and comfortable in your own company doesn't it seem like you're putting a lot of pressure on Mr. Pretty Vanilla to provide to you what you aren't providing to yourself already?

Ten days and you are already worrying about something in the future .. something which hasn't even happened yet because of what you feel 'right now'. Hell, Mr. Pretty Vanilla might not be in your life in four months, so quit worrying about what you 'might' feel at that time and work on getting through the next ten days.

Keep breathing, get into some of the hobbies you've always enjoyed, go see a stupid movie, listen to a Randy Newman song, work, walk, whatever.. you know.. the stuff you did before you met him. When you get in those moments where you are just feeling overwhelmed, breath through them, get through *that* moment and if you need to do it again in the next moment, do that, too. A few moments strung together aren't going to do you any damage. You *can* get through them.

You can't help what you feel, I grant that.. but you can choose how you react to those feelings. Try to react in ways which are positive and help you.

Best of luck!




< Message edited by Iamsemisweet -- 8/29/2011 11:48:24 AM >


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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 11:55:37 AM   
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Just a note.........you create a post that basically is asking for advice BUT when you get a reply that doesn't fit what you want, you argue it. Exactly what is the purpose of the thread if you are not going to acknowledge anything, that doesn't correlate with your line of thinking, is valid?

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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 12:03:48 PM   
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I have to admit, I keep coming back to a particular thought.

If the roles and/or genders were reversed on this one, there would be all kinds of fuss about the person in the new relationship attempting to isolate the other individual from their friends, that there was some kind of co-dependency going on, or it was in some way emotionally abusive.  That's if we didn't let it go so far as some form of emotional blackmail.

Something to think about the next time a male Dominant doesn't want their female submissive having outside friends and/or interests.


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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 12:05:17 PM   
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Good point, and I am trying to take it to heart. I just take offense at being called "clingy" for example or being told I just need to get a hobby.  A hobby? I have found some of the suggestions pretty useful, though.   I think I have developed a plan of action, and it may well seek some counseling, too.  I would like this relationship to work, since he is pretty awesome.  I think the way to couch it is not as an ultimatum or something stupid like that, more as a "I'll make it worth your while."  He wants me to board my horses this winter, for example, so that I don't have to be home twice a day, no matter what, to feed.  That way, I can spend more time at his house.  If  I am willing to go to the expense and emotional upset of doing that, then maybe he would be willing to give up something too.  That's compromise.
I think part of this IS baggage, honestly.  This is the exact time same time when my ex and I split up 4 years ago. 

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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 12:27:22 PM   
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One of the things I love about my current relationship is that we give each other room to be who we are. Which means if he wants to fly out to TX for 10 days so so can go on a road trip with an old college buddy, he does just that.

I was thrilled they managed to coordinate their schedules so they could go. It made him happy, so it made *me* happy.

He has no problem with me doing the same, except I have to fill the freezer with dinners he can zap before I go.

The OP seems to being having quite a struggle with this, and I can only assume past baggage is interfering in a big way.

As I can attest, a 20 year marriage can leave you with TONS of baggage.






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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 12:32:44 PM   
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Good point, and I am trying to take it to heart. I just take offense at being called "clingy" for example or being told I just need to get a hobby.  A hobby? I have found some of the suggestions pretty useful, though.   I think I have developed a plan of action, and it may well seek some counseling, too.  I would like this relationship to work, since he is pretty awesome.  I think the way to couch it is not as an ultimatum or something stupid like that, more as a "I'll make it worth your while."  He wants me to board my horses this winter, for example, so that I don't have to be home twice a day, no matter what, to feed.  That way, I can spend more time at his house.  If  I am willing to go to the expense and emotional upset of doing that, then maybe he would be willing to give up something too.  That's compromise.
I think part of this IS baggage, honestly.  This is the exact time same time when my ex and I split up 4 years ago. 


I am glad that there is some that is helping. One thing that I have found useful is the things, like the first bit I bolded, that bother us the most to hear, are often the things we most need to hear.

The second bit I bolded....I read a little bit of passive aggressive manipulation into that. One thing does not have anything to do with the other thing. Board your horses if it is something the two of you agree is best, and you can afford it. However, don't hold THAT over his head as to why he needs to do something you want him to do. They are two entirely different issues and should be dealt with as such.

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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 12:33:22 PM   
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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 12:35:04 PM   
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I read this whole thread and here is what I think:

1. The OP has a right to feel this way, whether it is a new or old relationship
2. She is not clingy just because she wants to spend time with her new or old partner
3. Even if she knew about the trips before, she still has a right to be upset about it
4. We all have baggage and if getting rid of baggage was as simple as people on a message board telling someone to get rid of it, then none of us would have any issues.
5. There has been some good advice and some bad advice and the OP appears to have wanted a venue in which to work out her thoughts on this.

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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 12:36:35 PM   
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Yes, and I have a right to feel like the queen of sheba........but expecting to be treated as such, will not likely result in the successful relationships I want for myself.

And OP, I appreciate that you are taking my posts in the way I am intending them. My intent is not to be an argumentative bitch even though it could be read that way.

All any of us can do is give our impression of the situation through our own filters. It really is difficult for ME to understand where you are coming from with all of this. I am only trying to give other points of view, perhaps but certainly not guaranteed, one that might be more similar to that of the guy in question.

I think that one of the most damaging things we do to our relationships is assume, without making 100% sure, that the other person not only knows how we feel about any given thing, but that we know for sure how they feel or think. Most of the time, especially in new relationships, what we assume very likely couldn't be further from the truth. Especially if both parties were in difficult relationships previously. Work very hard to not make the new person guilty of, or atone for, the sins of the previous person/s. Otherwise it is a long walk, off a short pier.

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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 12:38:33 PM   
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I guess my logic on the horse boarding for the fishing trip, is he wants me to board so I can spend more time with him.  I don't want him to go to sea so I can spend more time with him. They both have to do with spending more time together.   I hate passive aggression, so I will think about that pretty carefully.

Thanks sexyred1.

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Good point, and I am trying to take it to heart. I just take offense at being called "clingy" for example or being told I just need to get a hobby.  A hobby? I have found some of the suggestions pretty useful, though.   I think I have developed a plan of action, and it may well seek some counseling, too.  I would like this relationship to work, since he is pretty awesome.  I think the way to couch it is not as an ultimatum or something stupid like that, more as a "I'll make it worth your while."  He wants me to board my horses this winter, for example, so that I don't have to be home twice a day, no matter what, to feed.  That way, I can spend more time at his house.  If  I am willing to go to the expense and emotional upset of doing that, then maybe he would be willing to give up something too.  That's compromise.
I think part of this IS baggage, honestly.  This is the exact time same time when my ex and I split up 4 years ago. 


I am glad that there is some that is helping. One thing that I have found useful is the things, like the first bit I bolded, that bother us the most to hear, are often the things we most need to hear.

The second bit I bolded....I read a little bit of passive aggressive manipulation into that. One thing does not have anything to do with the other thing. Board your horses if it is something the two of you agree is best, and you can afford it. However, don't hold THAT over his head as to why he needs to do something you want him to do. They are two entirely different issues and should be dealt with as such.


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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 12:45:18 PM   
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wait..I'm kinda sleepy (and unable to sleep, dammit).. so I could easily have misinterpreted (fuck the spelling dammit, I am SLEEPY!!):

you're grudging time he's at sea, while not being thrilled about boarding the horse....



???

yeah..SERIOUS passive aggresive.


(feel free to ignore this, as I said, I'm sleepy and not sure I am GETTING things clearly...which obviously does not prevent me from commenting!! LOL)

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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 1:01:39 PM   
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Compromise is one thing, but you do understand the old "if I do x you must do y" thing is never great for building relationships?

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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 1:06:18 PM   
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No problem, greedy.
Well, sounds like that idea won't work either then.  I will see how I feel in a couple of days, this weekend damn near killed me.  I may not be thinking straight myself.


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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 1:23:08 PM   
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No problem, greedy.
Well, sounds like that idea won't work either then.  I will see how I feel in a couple of days, this weekend damn near killed me.  I may not be thinking straight myself.



Just out of curiosity.......please explain the part I bolded.


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RE: Separate vacations - 8/29/2011 1:39:25 PM   
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The idea of x for y.  Horse boarding for fishing trip.  If it can be construed as passive aggressive, it won't work.

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