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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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Rational discussion in Congress might be a start. Or the "post-racial" Obama condemning the vile rhetoric coming from the CBC. Of course condemning it might be difficult since its a necessary part of his campaign plan.

How do you have a rational discussion in congress when the opposing party has publicly announced that it's first priority is to make the pres., a one-term pres. ? You don't.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

so coming in here and calling "most" of us pathetic point scorers is your way of spreading peace and tranquility??
well done

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Obviously people have their own ideas and beliefs but no one seems to have any desire at all to listen to anyone else, it's just a massive slanging match. Most of you come across as pathetic points scorers. Is everyone so partisan that the others point of view is not worth even thinking about?

Hey, politics, those who discuss politics, what are they if not politicians, for everyone is a politician and would be more so if they had the wit to go for it and become a politician with power to trade.

But what you indicated and I quoted here is the perfect politician, don't listen to others for everyone else is wrong except oneself.

But where have all the foreigners gone, you know all those Brits and other non American representatives that used to participate here, they have gone, perhaps elsewhere, perhaps here was too much and to think this an international website that yaps about American political bollocks only, kind of leaves everyone else excluded, so why bother

But one thing is certain about you over the pond, the shit that is discussed on this forum indicates to us you are more fucked than us in this global community.

Aneirin, what does that "global community" stuff mean?
If my congressman or senators screwed up and it was on the News I really wouldn't care to discuss it with foreign nationals.
I don't comment on political issues in foreign countries firstly because I'm just not interested and also because I'm just not well informed enough about them and I just don't care.
I'd be talking out of context, and with little information and be slowing down the conversation like happens so many times in here with the foreign nationals constantly having to ask questions and not being able to see the big picture.
Add to that the socialist/leftist bent of so many of them and you end up with a tower of babel.
Perhaps C.M. should start another category, "foreign politics" or something like that?
But then of course there wouldn't be many Americans in there.
P.S. I don't know if this is an "international website", it's based out of California but on the internet you can get into most sites online no matter where you are.
If for example (you) started your own "C.M." type of site in England after a while you'd have the same complaints about the "misinformed Americans" I'm sure.
In politics if you're missing just 10% of the information that can have a very big effect on the conversation.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

so coming in here and calling "most" of us pathetic point scorers is your way of spreading peace and tranquility??
well done

Well, why don't you take a hard look at your posts? Most of them are no better than the shit sanity posts.

To the OP: I have some productive discussions on another site. There, on some groups, a post like this thread: http://www.collarchat.com/m_3817557/tm.htm would engender some discussion, whether pro or con. Here, it got zero traction. THis is actually par for the course here. What does get traction?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3828803/tm.htm (Nyah Nyah! Stupid rightard!)
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3826850/tm.htm (Obama sucks!)

Hell, I won't even bother to go on. Personally, I'm a Progressive. I expect the right-wingers to come up with some amazingly stupid shit. Conversely, I expect Progressives to be a bit more discerning when it comes to topics to address. Frankly, there are some "Progressives" who are a complete embarrassment to me.

I want them to explain to me how "haha! rightards are fucking stupid!" is going to sway the independants over to my side.

Seriously, shut the fuck up and sit down.

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Many foreign nationals, as you call them, know more about American politics than most Americans know about foreign politics. And I would hazard a guess that many of these same foreign nationals probably know more about American politics than a good number of Americans. (I'm speaking of Americans in general, not specifically Americans on this site.)

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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD
Many foreign nationals, as you call them, know more about American politics than most Americans know about foreign politics. And I would hazard a guess that many of these same foreign nationals probably know more about American politics than a good number of Americans. (I'm speaking of Americans in general, not specifically Americans on this site.)

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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD


Many foreign nationals, as you call them, know more about American politics than most Americans know about foreign politics. And I would hazard a guess that many of these same foreign nationals probably know more about American politics than a good number of Americans. (I'm speaking of Americans in general, not specifically Americans on this site.)

Department of DeviantlyD Redunancy Department?

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD
Many foreign nationals, as you call them, know more about American politics than most Americans know about foreign politics. And I would hazard a guess that many of these same foreign nationals probably know more about American politics than a good number of Americans. (I'm speaking of Americans in general, not specifically Americans on this site.)

I think its probable that some foreigners know a fair bit more about American politics in comparison to what Americans might know about some aspects of foreign politics because America is arguably the sole super-power today (although China is on the rise) and a huge amount of American programming is beamed into homes all over the world. Since you guys don't have an equivalent experience from the opposite perspective it leads to different levels of knowledge. I have to say though that a lot of non-Americans looking at the US do so through a prejudicial filter of the mainstream media, and beyond the obvious stuff like Bush/Obama, don't really know that much about the place, as far as I can see anyway.