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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Firstquaker, the only time there will be honest discussion with you is when you stop misrepresenting the views of those you disagree with. This is a consistent characteristic of any debate I had with you. I made it clear repeatedly, and in the post to which you reply (see bolded text) that I have no issue with you posting up large tracts of text on this thread but actually my point is that you have been consistently doing it in your replies to me whilst repeatedly firing questions at me not relevant to the points I raised. And you did the very same in your post here. Its a very simple point and a reasonable one. You have been doing this for quite a few pages now, despite my requests to stop so yes it does look quite like you have a grudge, and I never mentioned the mods. I think you need to learn to live with legitimate criticism when you put your thoughts out there for others to read.

So you also see yourself as a internet coach and junior moderator, who is being persecuted by me?

You should complain to the moderators about that too.

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And while you draft you extensive maifesto on how I hijacked your thread on my charector defects and have further conducted this vendetta by discussing the CIA and MI6 acting as KDaffy's bitches, while whipping your dog  Tony Blair you also should complain about me posting irelevant things and even pictures (Like this for instance) - ... [edited out as off topic to reply]

Do you need assistance drawing up your complaint?

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

You are determined not to understand, and continually strawman but I'm not willing to let you get away with it.

I have said again and again that I have no problem with you posting any material up you so wish. The fact that you continually mix it up with my posts and keep firing questions at me after repeatedly asking you not to so so, indicates a very distinct grudge on your part. It also demonstrates how very childish you are being unable to take criticism at all.

Again I say it was legitimate to raise the issue of your prejudice toward the British. I think it is a given that you are a French-Canadian separatist by now since you have repeatedly failed to deny it. It explains a lot about your stance on these issues. You project onto Britain some sort of elemental evil akin to the Nazi's. It is quite similar to how some extreme republicans in Ireland used to behave, except that your conduct is even more absurd.

I didn't make this a personal attack on you at all but rather I posted a few lines (post 59) about your political stance when it had been raised elsewhere in the thread. I note you have hidden your profile (whilst you kept posting mine up on another thread). It prevents others getting an idea of your position.

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MI6 HQ in London: the Gibson inquiry into alleged UK complicity in torture is to be widened to examine the extent of intelligence-sharing by British secret services with the Libyan Gaddafi regime. Photograph: Alessia Pierdomenico/Reuters David Cameron has asked the Gibson inquiry into alleged UK complicity in torture to be widened to examine the extent of intelligence-sharing by British secret services with the Libyan Gaddafi regime, including rendition and torture.He will set out details of how the Gibson inquiry will look into the allegations in a Commons statement updating MPs on the fall of the Gaddafi regime.Jack Straw, who was foreign secretary in the previous Labour government, said he welcomed the development but said he had never endorsed any secret programme of rendition or torture by the intelligence services. Straw said the inquiry could look into allegations that the security services may have been involved in operations without his knowledge or permission.The prime minister's spokesman responded to the uncovering of a tranche of documents in Tripoli showing the intimate links between British intelligence and Libya by saying the Gibson inquiry was well placed to look at the allegations.He said current British ministers have not seen the documents, and it was not entirely clear what they signified. He added the terms of reference of the Gibson inquiry would not need to be changed to include the new Libyan allegations.

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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
You are determined not to understand, and continually strawman but I'm not willing to let you get away with it.

I have said again and again that I have no problem with you posting any material up you so wish. The fact that you continually mix it up with my posts and keep firing questions at me after repeatedly asking you not to so so, indicates a very distinct grudge on your part. It also demonstrates how very childish you are being unable to take criticism at all.

Again I say it was legitimate to raise the issue of your prejudice toward the British. I think it is a given that you are a French-Canadian separatist by now since you have repeatedly failed to deny it. It explains a lot about your stance on these issues. You project onto Britain some sort of elemental evil akin to the Nazi's. It is quite similar to how some extreme republicans in Ireland used to behave, except that your conduct is even more absurd.

I didn't make this a personal attack on you at all but rather I posted a few lines (post 59) about your political stance when it had been raised elsewhere in the thread. I note you have hidden your profile (whilst you kept posting mine up on another thread). It prevents others getting an idea of your position.

You should add that to your list of complaints too.

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BTW do you have anything whatsoever to discuss regarding the CIA and MI6 and KDaffy, or is your whole purpose in posting to is to discuss me?

I defy you to provide one post in this thread where you were on topic.

And while you looking into your posts in this thread for this on topic post of yours,  Cameron is asking the British Torture Inquiry to look into the Libyan torturing and renditions - [edited out as part of FQ's copy and paste routine]

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
You are determined not to understand, and continually strawman but I'm not willing to let you get away with it.

I have said again and again that I have no problem with you posting any material up you so wish. The fact that you continually mix it up with my posts and keep firing questions at me after repeatedly asking you not to so so, indicates a very distinct grudge on your part. It also demonstrates how very childish you are being unable to take criticism at all.

Again I say it was legitimate to raise the issue of your prejudice toward the British. I think it is a given that you are a French-Canadian separatist by now since you have repeatedly failed to deny it. It explains a lot about your stance on these issues. You project onto Britain some sort of elemental evil akin to the Nazi's. It is quite similar to how some extreme republicans in Ireland used to behave, except that your conduct is even more absurd.

I didn't make this a personal attack on you at all but rather I posted a few lines (post 59) about your political stance when it had been raised elsewhere in the thread. I note you have hidden your profile (whilst you kept posting mine up on another thread). It prevents others getting an idea of your position.

You should add that to your list of complaints too.

What's all this about lists of complaints, presumably to mods? Its a strange fantasy world you live in where you literally dream up what those you disagree with are doing. Very odd.

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BTW do you have anything whatsoever to discuss regarding the CIA and MI6 and KDaffy, or is your whole purpose in posting to is to discuss me?

I defy you to provide one post in this thread where you were on topic.

And while you looking into your posts in this thread for this on topic post of yours,  Cameron is asking the British Torture Inquiry to look into the Libyan torturing and renditions - [edited out as part of FQ's copy and paste routine]

As I already said repeatedly, others were commenting on your preceived prejudice over the topic. I had noticed this in many of your posts too so I merely added my voice. I have also said many many times already that it is on-topic because it relates to your treatment of the very topic which you brought up. It is common for the posters on here to discuss the stance of those that start threads. It doesn't have to be personally abusive if the criticism is based on their views, not their personality. Understand? No I didn't think so.

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Blair returned to Libya in 2007 when he was pictured smiling and shaking hands with Gaddafi and holding talks with him in a tent in the desert near the Libyan strongman's home town, Sirte.
Those images have come back to haunt Blair as reports of the brutality of Gaddafi's government have emerged.
During Blair's 2007 visit, British oil firm BP signed a big natural gas exploration deal with Libya, raising questions about whether commercial interests influenced British policy.

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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker
So in your opinion, any topic posted here is actually about the poster, not about the topic? And like a lemming, your see the role of yourself as a follower in these "political" discussions?