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ORIGINAL: sinequanon22

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When Palestinian leaders emerge that are not terrorists committed to killing every Jew in Israel. -Ken

Christ, really? How much propaganda do you voluntarily consume daily? My guess is that the number is way above your doctor's recommended dose.


Even if what you said were true--and it most decidedly is not, unless you can magically such a ridiculous assertion-- Israel commits the daily war crimes of imprisoning a million plus Palestinians in Gaza, preventing food and basic medical supplies from entering and murdering innocent civilians. They regularly bomb and kill women and children in the strip. The last time Israel invaded Gaza they killed over 1000 Palestinians compare to less than 50 Israeli deaths--so who's the terrorists? My money is on the oppressing power that has all the heavy armor and modern air force, and not the people who can barely feed themselves.
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For those interested, Glenn Greenwald has a piece related to this, regarding the culture of the Israel lobby in the US and various political orthodoxies that can or cannot be spoken aloud.

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Walt and Mearshiemer merely voiced a truth [the Israel lobby's great power over US policy] which has long been known and obvious but was not allowed to be spoken. That's precisely why the demonization campaign against them was so vicious and concerted: those who voice prohibited truths are always more hated than those who spout obvious lies. That the foreign affairs columnist most admired in Washington circles just expressed the same point demonstrates that recognition of this previously prohibited fact has now become mainstream.

http://bit.ly/ncSd0U

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ORIGINAL: sinequanon22

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When Palestinian leaders emerge that are not terrorists committed to killing every Jew in Israel. -Ken

Christ, really? How much propaganda do you voluntarily consume daily? My guess is that the number is way above your doctor's recommended dose.


Even if what you said were true--and it most decidedly is not,

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the Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah’s promise whatever time it might take. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Why is Hamas treated like a legitimate government instead of the criminal terrorists they are?

Why hasn't Israel re-occupied Gaza and restored CIVIL order, rebuilding the local police, etc?

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Probably because it would be very violent and be spun by the terrorist sympathizers as another evil act by the always in the wrong Israelis.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Probably because it would be very violent and be spun by the terrorist sympathizers as another evil act by the always in the wrong Israelis.

Probably???? I think what you want to say is.
Israel DO NOT WANT re-occupied Gaza and restored CIVIL order,& KEEP BOMBING..... these EVIL SAVAGE PEOPLE, WHO STILL RIDE CAMELS,

Other wise, the FUCKING hole ieda of leaveing gaza is to make them come togther, & then bomb these SOB`s all the way to Egypt.


Probably............

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

If that were the case the Israelis are doing a piss poor job of it. I think it far more likely they are avoiding giving Hamas a propoganda victory.

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ORIGINAL: ashjor911

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

If that were the case the Israelis are doing a piss poor job of it. I think it far more likely they are avoiding giving Hamas a propoganda victory.

or Doing the best job keeping (GAZA) & its People under Siege,
Not providing a simple life things like gas or food & water,
& Bombing ( the freedom fleet ) that comes to AID GAZA from Turkey, & fire the Israeli Turkey crisis?

that is the (propoganda victory of Hamas) right?


Give me a break

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

"freedom fleet"

Give me a break.

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HAHAHAHA. Yeah we all know how those Palestinians are always influencing the government and media. They got all the money don't they ? They have us all brainwashed don't they ?

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Succumbing to enormous pressure from the Jewish Federation and the Jewish Community Relations Council of the East bay, the Museum of Children's Art (MOCHA) in Oakland cancelled an exhibit of Palestinian children's art called "A Child’s View From Gaza." MOCHA and the Middle East Children's Alliance (MECA) had been working together for several months to bring this exhibit to the Bay Area community.

On September 8, 2011, MOCHA's Board President Hilmon Sorey informed MECA that the museum would not show the children's artwork. The exhibit was due to open on September 24, 2011.

Over the last 23 years, pro-Israel groups determined to silence the Palestinian perspective have repeatedly targeted MECA. Enough is enough. Please stand up for the right of all children to express the reality of their lives and share their dreams for the future.

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ORIGINAL: ashjor911

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

"freedom fleet"

Give me a break.

Yeah that was Hamas, was it?
Oh No,


If They want Peace.... (as they say) why in the name OF HELL .... start new WAR with turkey

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
They didn't start a war. They simply enfored their absolute inviolable right to control their own frontier. Technically the Turkish vessels could have been sunk after the initial order to heave to and proceed to an inspection port was ignored.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: ashjor911

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

"freedom fleet"

Give me a break.

Yeah that was Hamas, was it?
Oh No,


If They want Peace.... (as they say) why in the name OF HELL .... start new WAR with turkey

They didn't start a war. They simply enfored their absolute inviolable right to control their own frontier. Technically the Turkish vessels could have been sunk after the initial order to heave to and proceed to an inspection port was ignored.

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ORIGINAL: ashjor911

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
They didn't start a war. They simply enfored their absolute inviolable right to control their own frontier. Technically the Turkish vessels could have been sunk after the initial order to heave to and proceed to an inspection port was ignored.

Lets defin that ok,

inspection order: means ......... killing 15 Turkey`s on board of those ships right? (that was after the order?) after they were attacked attempting to board

right to control their own frontier: the Ships were going to GAZA....( which is not a part of Israel, in case it is how can the bomb their own land & people ???)

Under the disengagement plan Israel retains the right to secure Gaza's coastline and airspace.



refusing to say sorry for those killing did end up in Turkey bad, the told the ambassadore to FUCK OFF, appropriate after you are attacked


the thing after that is,,,,, WAR,

Lets make it (absolute inviolable WAR),

be careful what you wish for

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The biggest failure of a first post ever.

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ORIGINAL: sinequanon22

From willbeurdaddy to myself:

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The biggest failure of a first post ever.

Right, I see a lot of talk and not any support for your position. So put up already willbeur.

Sketch out why exactly what I said wasn't true. Do you have problem with that source I cited? If so, what is it? Be specific.