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Do you support a Palestinian State?


Yes
  52% (18)
No
  38% (13)
Unsure
  8% (3)


Total Votes : 34
(last vote on : 9/20/2011 5:36:01 PM)
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pahunkboy -> Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 6:35:41 PM)

As you know  they are bidding to get in the UN, this week.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/19/us-palestinians-funds-saudi-idUSTRE78I61E20110919




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 6:38:30 PM)

I voted yes. They already have one.




ashjor911 -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 6:56:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

I voted yes. They already have one.




By what standards?

My vote to the OP, lets make sure who will be in charge before we go there,
however, if Abbas is your choice,
My vote will be: I DONT GIVE A SHIT...




pahunkboy -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 7:08:30 PM)

I dont know much about that.   




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 7:34:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ashjor911

quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

I voted yes. They already have one.




By what standards?

My vote to the OP, lets make sure who will be in charge before we go there,
however, if Abbas is your choice,
My vote will be: I DONT GIVE A SHIT...


By the standards of the Muslim Brotherhood.




ashjor911 -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 8:25:39 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
By the standards of the Muslim Brotherhood.


by the standards of any kind of brotherhood its not a state,
by the standards of ZIONESTBROTHERHOOD...... its

& you on the other hand still dont know when Israel was Invented,
above all that, you are making your hero, Mr. David ben gurion, locks like fat bold ugly lair,
& yes you did not say like that but you meant it.
before you began with your lesson & give the the Historical ISRAEL state, IT WAS NOT ISRAEL.
IT WAS KING DAVID KINGDOM......
however, It was never found, as the Israel`s say:
CBS: ‘No Evidence’ of King David in Jerusalem

source:
http://www.thetrumpet.com/?q=7567.7.0.0

in fact there will never bee found,

you wanna know why?
ask the (can`t) in your avatar he will tell ya,
pssssssssst: he is one of the Free Masons, just like Clinton .....
the BUSH family are Zionest by the way,


& yeah, I alredy know your history to.

PS: Please dont make this personal................Please ok??




TheHeretic -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 8:32:34 PM)

Two state, one state, split it up any number of ways, does it matter?  The problem I run into is that I believe Israel has a right to exist, and to be treated in a neighborly fashion, by their neighbors.  That needs to be an easy point of agreement, before I support any of it.





DomKen -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 8:36:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ashjor911


quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
By the standards of the Muslim Brotherhood.


by the standards of any kind of brotherhood its not a state,
by the standards of ZIONESTBROTHERHOOD...... its

& you on the other hand still dont know when Israel was Invented,
above all that, you are making your hero, Mr. David ben gurion, locks like fat bold ugly lair,
& yes you did not say like that but you meant it.
before you began with your lesson & give the the Historical ISRAEL state, IT WAS NOT ISRAEL.
IT WAS KING DAVID KINGDOM......
however, It was never found, as the Israel`s say:
CBS: ‘No Evidence’ of King David in Jerusalem

source:
http://www.thetrumpet.com/?q=7567.7.0.0

in fact there will never bee found,

you wanna know why?
ask the (can`t) in your avatar he will tell ya,
pssssssssst: he is one of the Free Masons, just like Clinton .....
the BUSH family are Zionest by the way,


& yeah, I alredy know your history to.

PS: Please dont make this personal................Please ok??

There is no evidence anywhere for King David however if you move a little forward in time there are plenty of historical references to later Hebrew kings in Jerusalem. IIRC the first one we have a written reference to is Omri.

Do not attempt to equate the lack of any historical records for someone who may have lived more than 3000 years ago to a lack of historical evidence that Jerusalem was the capitol of a Jewish Kingdom by no later than 900BC.




TheHeretic -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 8:55:11 PM)

Perfect link, Ashjor.  A fundamentalist Christian website out to debunk the CBS story.  There will never be any agreement.

I think, from thousands of miles away, that Jerusalem is holy to all three of the major religious groups involved.  Would there be a way, do you think, for it to be an open city, an international city, maybe administered by a disinterested fourth party?  (Maybe the Chinese - they think we are all nuts equally.)




popeye1250 -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 9:29:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

As you know  they are bidding to get in the UN, this week.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/19/us-palestinians-funds-saudi-idUSTRE78I61E20110919



I support the United States.




SternSkipper -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 9:34:49 PM)

quote:

you wanna know why?
ask the (can`t) in your avatar he will tell ya,


Alfred E Newman isn't unfortunately eligible to be a free mason... but countless monthly issues prove he certainly thinks like one... But WillBe ... no free mason there ... he has the stink of the rotary club on him. He's 25 cent roulette wheels and ping pong balls in goldfish bowls




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 10:31:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ashjor911


you on the other hand still dont know when Israel was Invented,


No, you obviously don't. That the UN created Israel is a convenient fiction, just like the notion that there was actually any such thing as a "Palestinian" before it became convenient politically to invent them.




Termyn8or -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/19/2011 10:37:37 PM)

"Do you support a Palestinian State? "

Do you support an American state ?

T^T




Real0ne -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/20/2011 12:21:12 AM)

HAha!
G1 Term!

The only reason the fuckers set up sovereign king states is for tax collection districts.

america was not satisfied with one fucking live monarch that we could chop their fucking head head off, we needed 50 of the bastards, only ours are fictional with not head to chop.

Ah give me the MOBocracy any day!


quote:

The Fundamental Constitutions of Carolina : March 1, 1669 (1) (2) Our sovereign lord [your STATE here] the King having, out of his royal grace and bounty, granted unto us the province of Carolina, with all the royalties, properties, jurisdictions, and privileges of a county palatine, as large and ample as the county palatine of Durham, with other great privileges; for the better settlement of the government of the said place, and establishing the interest of the lords proprietors with equality and without confusion; and that the government of this province may be made most agreeable to the monarchy under which we live and of which this province is a part; and that we may avoid erecting a numerous democracy, we, the lords and proprietors of the province aforesaid, have agreed to this following form of government, to be perpetually established amongst us, unto which we do oblige ourselves, our heirs and successors, In the most binding ways that can be devised. One. The eldest of the lords proprietors shall be palatine;


No state, no fucking monarchy, they can stick all that elite shit where the sun dont shine!




Anaxagoras -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/20/2011 1:07:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen
There is no evidence anywhere for King David however if you move a little forward in time there are plenty of historical references to later Hebrew kings in Jerusalem. IIRC the first one we have a written reference to is Omri.

Do not attempt to equate the lack of any historical records for someone who may have lived more than 3000 years ago to a lack of historical evidence that Jerusalem was the capitol of a Jewish Kingdom by no later than 900BC.

Big surprise - I voted no as it will make negotiations dramatically harder. The Islamic capital of the region is Al-Ramleh, it was never Jerusalem except for the Christian Crusaders, the British Mandate and for the Jews. I remember the offer a few years back of one million dollars to give to anyone who finds a single mention of the Jerusalem in the Koran.




Endivius -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/20/2011 1:15:13 AM)

The title of this thread is so disapointing. I thought we were anexing Israel.




Aneirin -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/20/2011 2:20:31 AM)

Well if Palestine becomes a state, that means Israel will have a legitimate reason to invade that state, just like every other state invades other states for whatever reason, which usually boils down to that old enemy; empire building or a state using bully boy tactics to assert their dominance in a region.

But if Palestine becomes a state then surely their defence against other states will be accomodated, as everyone has the right to defend themselves against aggressors

Oh shit more trouble to come!




StrangerThan -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/20/2011 2:56:05 AM)

I voted yes. I've always supported a Palestinian state. What I don't support is their attempt this week. 




DarkSteven -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/20/2011 5:15:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Two state, one state, split it up any number of ways, does it matter?  The problem I run into is that I believe Israel has a right to exist, and to be treated in a neighborly fashion, by their neighbors.  That needs to be an easy point of agreement, before I support any of it.



Rich, while I agree with you about Israel's right to exist peacefully, I don't see why the other Arab states' views should affect the formation of a Palestinian state.

If they favored a Palestinian state, then this would be a useful carrot for them.  But it's not.




farglebargle -> RE: Do you support a Palestinian State? (9/20/2011 5:28:41 AM)

I wish the Government of Israel would get off their asses and annex Gaza and the West Bank, turning them into just another Administrative District. Restore civil order, and end all this bullshit.




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