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tweakabelle -> RE: Damn Muslims holding a peace conference. (9/29/2011 10:05:44 PM)
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ORIGINAL: samboct
Seems to me that the conference organizers are tackling head on the perception that some of us, myself included, that Muslims have been involved in lots of conflicts in the past decades. Your posts seem to be denying that they've been in conflicts- so then what would the point of a peace conference be?
My jaw dropped when I read this. I have no idea where you got it from. I explained my purpose explicitly in post #85. It has nothing to do with, nor did I say anything about denying Muslims have been involved in conflicts - which I don't deny anyways.
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Face it, we don't have many Christian, or Jewish martyrs these days blowing things up. ". But Muslims? A different story.
This statement of yours is technically true. We Westerners are supposed to secular and we don't do martyrs do we? So, with a few cosmetic changes it becomes: "We don't have many Western or Israeli these days soldiers killing people" . And now it's downright false. We do have soldiers killing people, every day, every single day. Have had for years. The majority of them civilians too. So it's hardly "a different story".
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I'm not certain why this is. Perhaps its related to the high rate of illiteracy and the fact that the only schools are religious and offer a very slanted look at the world. It's a comforting theory...but IIRC, most of the terrorists involved in 9/11 were actually well educated. So what is it about the religion that encourages a small percentage to commit atrocities? Is it even related to the religion or is it merely coincidental, i.e. the people in those countries enjoy committing atrocities and they happen to be Muslim?
To me, these are interesting questions, but you'll never get to ask them if you can't acknowledge the link between Muslims and terrorism.
It takes two to tango. Your analysis doesn't even mention the West's role in events. All and any blame is automatically attached to Muslims. Sanity offers a more through presentation of the same view. This view relies on ignorance hatred fear and Islamophobia to sustain itself, as is obvious from Sanity's rants.
Is it ever the case that one side is 100% right and the other side 100% wrong? Do you think that it might just be a possibility that the West could be a teeny weeny bit to blame? That the West has contributed to making the mess? Is it relevant that it's Western and Israeli troops occupying Arab lands and not the other way around? Do foreign military occupations provoke resistance and terrorism? Surely you don't claim that they're benign altruistic affairs designed to help the ungrateful natives as Sanity argues(sic), do you?
Do you think that omitting these possibilities from consideration might have some connection to your admitted inability to come up with a comprehensive analysis of the situation? Do you think that including these considerations might help you come up with a more complete understanding of the situation?
I do.
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