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PeonForHer -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 5:02:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 I do like the thought of that, a guy that can do all that kinda work... if i were to become a femdom would you dye your hair dark brown??? [:)] You'd have to be very dommely indeed to make up for your lack of taste in male hair colour, TJ.

tj444 -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 5:25:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 I do like the thought of that, a guy that can do all that kinda work... if i were to become a femdom would you dye your hair dark brown??? [:)] You'd have to be very dommely indeed to make up for your lack of taste in male hair colour, TJ. (the New TJ) [sm=mistress.gif] would colouring it black be better??? or maybe even dark red? that would include eyebrows too, of course..

agirl -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 5:39:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer Yes, but Americans don't want to be communists, like us Brits, agirl. Aha, so it's the preferred system?.......gosh, you'd never think that with the way it's spoken about.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 5:44:46 PM)
It's by no means the preferred system...but there are a lot more people in the US, and the system is beyond broken. I know that my healthcare costs are the biggest reason I no longer have any retirement savings. I won't even get into the nonsense my retiree parents go through. So, reality trumps a lot of fantasies when someone wants to be a live in TPE and "just" do housework. In a household with young children, that begins to become cost effective, since childcare costs are scary. Wonder how many subs want the glam life of a nanny?

TransformaDomme -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 5:46:51 PM)
If that's what I wanted and they could do it well enough, yes. Especially if they did it better than I did it. Why not? People pay for maids, cooks, life coaches, assistants, decorators, etc. But, I don't want that kind of relationship, because it's not good for people. One of the biggest problems in modern society, vis a vis housewives or househusbands, is what becomes of them if the main bread winner is laid off, becomes ill or dies. They find themselves as people with no work experience to share on a resume, no credit score, no nothing to recommend themselves on paper, and, generally, too old to have just getting started in life as an excuse. So, people should always have some sort of job, even if it is not needed for monetary reasons. Still, if I had the money to do it, I'd be glad to invite someone into my life who would play the wife/gardener/maid role, with only a part time job to keep them in the game, and, foot the bill for our living expenses. I just don't have the ability, for now.

LaTigresse -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 5:55:30 PM)
I just wanted to thank everyone for their contributions. Every time this subject comes up I remember what a past poster used to say. Something about not wanting HIS slave, to be anyone else's slave. He felt that if she worked, it would make her first, a slave to her job and second a slave to him. But to me, by that logic, it would make him a slave to his customers (I believe he was/is self employed) and no master at all. Then again, in my mind, all are a slave to the relationship....to a degree. Agirl (I think that is who addressed my thoughts on responsibility for another) to ME, just because a person would possibly relinquish their home and job to serve me, does not make it right for me to take advantage of that with no regard for their future.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 5:58:09 PM)
Yes to that bit about regard for the future... it becomes obvious when someone's living in cloud cuckoo land when I ask the concrete questions about insurance, and medical powers of attorney...

PeonForHer -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 5:59:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus Wonder how many subs want the glam life of a nanny? Actually, I think I could hack that. I'm OK with kids, so I've been told.

littlewonder -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 6:03:49 PM)
My sister did the whole live in nanny/housekeeper thing for about 3 years. She moved from PA to CA to do just that but she hated California and moved back. But she loved being a live in nanny. They didn't provide for healthcare or anything like that. They gave her a stipend, food and free rent. She was in her 20's at the time though and no kids, no boyfriend, no other responsibilities at the time. There's a lot of younger people that do these kinds of jobs. It's something different, it lets them spread their wings, get some life experience and imo it's not that bad a gig and everyone gets something from it that they want.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 6:12:50 PM)
A gal I knew expected her slave to deal with the kids. He didn't seem on board with the notion that serving meant doing the things his mistress wanted...like picking the kids up from school.

TreasureKY -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 6:21:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse To derail a derail...... Do you (whomever you are and whatever your part of the power exchange/service dynamic) feel that having a person entirely devoted to caring for.....home, personal affairs, whatever... is worth the expense of properly providing for that person. If yes, why and how? If no, why and how? As Firm so rarely comes to this forum to read, I'll answer for him. I'd have to say, "yes", as that is precisely what Firm did for me. When I was laid off from my professional position some four plus years ago, Firm told me to move in with him. My job was to be devoted to taking care of his home, his personal affairs, and him. In return, he would take care of me... my car payment, my insurance, my healthcare, and anything else I needed or wanted. At the time, while our relationship was intimate and life committed, there were no plans for ever marrying. As a man with his own business, I can imagine it was well worth it to him. He just doesn't have the time or inclination to take care of all the things that I do for him, and, he does like to be pampered. Who wouldn't? Lucky for me (and him) that I love doing all those domestic things, and had always wished I could devote my time to caring for and pampering the man I love. Of course, it turned out to be even more of a value to him. While I could happily keep myself busy on a day to day basis just with domestic chores, and Firm was never so organized and well taken care of, I couldn't stand seeing him so busy with his business. So... I pitched in. Now, his business is doubled and I spend the majority of my time handling work for him. We'll be married for two years this December and even though I now bring in nearly as much income as he does, he still reminds me that should I wish to quit the business and return to just taking care of him, that is more than fine with him. I'll admit that sometimes I'm tempted. With working now so much, I no longer have the time to care for hearth and home (and Firm) as well as I'd like. Firm knows that this bothers me, and has suggested I hire extra help for the house... but I'm not nearly as open as he is to the idea of financing someone else to handle those things! [:)]

MissImmortalPain -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 6:39:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse To derail a derail...... Do you (whomever you are and whatever your part of the power exchange/service dynamic) feel that having a person entirely devoted to caring for.....home, personal affairs, whatever... is worth the expense of properly providing for that person. If yes, why and how? If no, why and how? If they do it well, and are doing it because they really want to, than yes I do feel it is worth it. Infact I would say it is more than worth it. I have a live in that does this for the most part and we are both happy with how things have worked out. Years ago there were even women that stayed home to do such things...some even liked the idea. I think some people are suited to such jobs and if they know it and are willing to tell someone that is the place they want to be more power to them.

LaTigresse -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 6:40:50 PM)
Thank you Treasure for your post. I appreciate reading about successful relationships. Regardless of the dynamic and structure. It is obvious it is working for both of you. Per your words, Firm has been very responsible in fulfilling his obligations and made sure you are well provided for in return for your excellent service.

Awareness -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 9:00:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hisprettybaby You certainly are flattering, aren't you. What makes you so special and superior? Just because she wants to find out the answer to a legitimate question, what's the big deal about why she wants to know? ~Hisprettybaby~ Not-so-well-hidden agendas tend to beg to be mocked. Then again, this whole business of not wanting to provide for someone else from all these Dommes is kind of amusing. Given that providing for someone else is exactly what husbands and fathers have been doing for untold generations. Now that women have the same privileges, it seems they're not at all keen to take on the same responsibilities. I can only muse on the irony of that, especially when it's usually these exact same women who try and lecture men about their responsibilities. Personally, I think if you have a slave and you're whining about costs, then you're a fucking pretender. If you consider your slave an owned piece of fuckmeat to do with as you will and you're not paying for them, then you're an idiot living in a dream world. Having a slave is a privilege afforded to those who have the will and have demonstrated the ability to do well enough to afford one. If you can't afford one, then you're not sufficiently master of yourself to prosper in your society. Having said that, the costs are clearly worse for some societies than others - however I expect that's the price you pay for tolerating a health system which spits on the sick before kicking them in the face and stealing their wallet.

AdorkableAiley -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 9:10:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse To derail a derail...... Do you (whomever you are and whatever your part of the power exchange/service dynamic) feel that having a person entirely devoted to caring for.....home, personal affairs, whatever... is worth the expense of properly providing for that person. If yes, why and how? If no, why and how? Well up untill resent years this was what was known as a house wife (husband) I know now it isnt usually the case where one would be a stay at home but I have friends that are stay at home moms, they arent into BDSM but in essence isnt that the same thing? Taking care of the home and getting room and board? They arent making money for the house but they are maintaining it. Ailey-who would be yanking hair out of her head as a stay at home anything

HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 10:13:52 PM)
FR I don't feel it is at all unrealistic. I live that way, I don't contribute anything financially to the household, and nobody here seems to mind. Apparently they find my contribution worth the expense.

Kana -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 10:35:06 PM)
If and when I've had the money, I've done this. Hell, if she makes my life easier and better, and I can support us in a respectable fashion, I would, and have, supported them. But, rest assured, I get a proper amount of, ahem, bang for my buck. In the long run, she'll probably find working easier. Now if I was idle rich and independently wealthy, oh hell yeah. Shit, I'd keep her caged in the basement FT, letting her free only to subject her to the most degenerate horrors. I mean really, who wouldn't want a kept cunt who is perpetually on call and available. Cripes, I'd put her on the payroll, call her a, snickers, personal assistant.

Iamsemisweet -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 10:37:14 PM)
I had a boyfriend who represented himself as a "successful small business owner" but once he moved into my house, tried to morph into house husband. This was not what I wanted, so he got shown the door. I have a pretty high maintenance life, lots of animals, big house, lots of property. I still wasn't willing to risk my assets and my retirement on someone who was not going to contributed financially. The work he was doing was just not worth it. Because remember, it isn't just a matter of supporting someone while you are earning an income, you also will have to provide for them when you both reach retirement age. Who can afford that?

HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 10:43:49 PM)
quote: Because remember, it isn't just a matter of supporting someone while you are earning an income, you also will have to provide for them when you both reach retirement age. Who can afford that? Hundreds of millions of husbands the world over?

Ishtarr -> RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's living expenses TO YOU? (9/25/2011 11:06:09 PM)
I'm a housewife. At the moment, not solely by choice, seeing that I don't yet have a green card and am not legally allowed to work, but I don't really see that changing even after I get the green card. My husband has two young children from a previous marriage that are with us 50% of the time, we have a rather big house and a nice size yard, but that's not nearly enough to keep me busy full time. My husband works from home, and because of this, I perform some secretarial duties for him, more out of a desire for him to have more free time, than that it's really necessary for me to do so. Neither of us have health insurance, by choice, we elected instead to take the extra pay (work doesn't even come close to covering health insurance completely anyways) and we set that aside in investments (mostly gold and silver) every month in case we need it. We've build up enough that way to cover just about any immediate hospital bill that could hit us acutely (broken bones and stuff) and I have the added benefit of being a Belgian citizen which means me and my husband have fully covered medical care in Belgium for the rest of our lives. Seeing that health care is considerable better there anyways, I'd prefer to move back there if I had something like prolonged illness happening. After reading this topic, I asked him if he would mind me working full time, and his answer was: I wouldn't consider it an option unless you bring in a considerable some of money each month, what you do here at home can't be bought for less than that. I guess it's a matter of perspective, and whether people can afford it. We're planning to build our own home in a while, and I'm a licensed electrician in Belgium and know my way around a construction site rather well. I plan to do much of the build work myself, especially on the finishings, like putting in floors and trim and so on, so once we start on that, I'll probably really be too busy to even consider going to work. Besides, I'd miss the fun of building with my own hands the house we'll live in would I got to work.

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