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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 9/30/2011 4:40:27 PM   
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To derail a derail......

Do you (whomever you are and whatever your part of the power exchange/service dynamic) feel that having a person entirely devoted to caring for.....home, personal affairs, whatever... is worth the expense of properly providing for that person.

If yes, why and how? If no, why and how?


So long as it wasn't me doing the housework...I'd be in.

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 9/30/2011 4:43:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, in some respects it is a fantasy world, but I don't think it's "serving the pussy" to expect some housework - shit, I can't afford to pay anybody to do it, I don't know what the going rate is for housekeeping services, but it ain't free.

It really just depends on what your needs are for both - I'd be happy to have somebody help me keep up on the housework, it would be worth room and board and babysitting without any sexual relationship at all - I've even thought about a straight male sub, one asked me about it once, and the only reason I haven't gone that route is I don't have an extra room at the moment.

But is it worth room and board for the types of services we're talking about here? Make some calls and do the math, if it's a good trade for both of you, do it, I see no need to drag any of this social status bullshit into it, if both parties are content and live up to their end, it's a legitimate deal, it's a common arrangement in Europe, au pairs, usually younger people, it gives them a place to stay while they do whatever else it is they want to do - room and board ain't cheap either, hell a lot of people don't have money left for the board after paying for the room, vehicle, insurance, all the other crap you have to have just to be employable.

As far as I'm concerned, that's what I am paying for, pussy I can get anywhere, that's strictly bonus, off the books - for both parties.

'Cause shit, if I'm paying for that too, you better be able to crack eggs with that thang.

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 9/30/2011 6:01:46 PM   
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'Cause shit, if I'm paying for that too, you better be able to crack eggs with that thang.


No personal experience but I would think that a pussy that can crack eggs is one I would want to stay away from.

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 9/30/2011 6:26:22 PM   
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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 9/30/2011 6:48:23 PM   
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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 9/30/2011 8:06:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Endivius

While I do not entirely agree with what Awareness has said, I do have to say that there is a double standard being raised. A very valid point, not one that I personally practice; I do see what he is saying though. If I am understanding him correctly, he views men as providers, and when dominant women are trying to step into that role, they do not want to provide on the same level of expectations. It may be a matter of interpretting what he sees as a provider and what the dominant women see as providing.


I believe that Awareness believes that being a dominant, is a responsibility to provide for the submissive. Men/dominants have been doing this and women/dominants balk when it comes to doing what they should be doing as dominants. When it is time for the females to step up... they balk and they are simply playing a role as dominant and by shucking this role we are calling what a submissive must do, service.

So it seems that Awareness thinks that dominants should be supporting it all.

  That's pretty much the essence of it, although replace the word 'dominant' with Master and 'submissive' with slave.  A D/s interaction is substantially different to an M/s.  And frankly the issue here is one of a 24/7 TPE situation wherein the slave is considered owned or fuckmeat.  If you're going to claim you own someone then expect them to also service a full time job, you're pretty much fooling yourself.

The counter to this view is just the usual suspects playing their little games.  There's no real rationale behind it, they merely oppose me because their ego requires them to, and they lack the intellectual honesty to do anything else.


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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 9/30/2011 10:56:27 PM   
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Yes! Our dynamic works perfectly. Otter is THE BEST WIFE EVER!! I've been married to someone who made more than I do by 1/3. We didn't HAVE money problems. We had connection problems. He was either away at work, or home, but still in 'work' mode. We didn't relax well together. Could we get 'projects' done...hell yes. Could we spend a weekend relaxing together......ah, No!

I find Otter's contribution to our life together invaluable. He doesn't 'take care of me' because he feels guilty or badly about the monetary imbalance. This is good, because I don't feel there is an imbalance at all. I'd have a house payment anyway. The utilities go without saying. Like AA, there is so much that gets handled without me having to worry about it, I've never been happier. We've discussed him going back into the corporate world to pay off debt, and rejected the thought after a very brief consideration. This just works too damn well.

We do share housework, but each have our preferences. I don't have to concern myself with those chores I don't like to do.

Our situation is not completely black and white. I learned several relationships ago, that I do best when I have my money, he has his money, and we jointly contribute to household bills. In our case, this still holds true, except I handle the majority of our joint expenses. I have my individual debt, as does he. He has his individual income, which allows him spending money. Major money decisions are made after joint discussion. He makes decisions about the business, though on paper I am part owner. This works because, honestly, he has more business sense. I'm in healthcare, I don't have to cultivate customers, they just appear.

On a final note, the sadist in me enjoys going to his shop. I defer to him about how things get done (though of course I ALWAYS have *organizational* recommendations.) It makes him uncomfortable for me to be sweeping floors, or washing his lunch dishes, but hey, he is the talented artisan creating beautiful pieces of art. Sometimes I collaborate with him from a creative perspective. Rarely do I actually work on a customer piece.

Our partnership works perfectly for both of us, and I'm extremely grateful to have found him.



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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 5:00:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: xssve

Separating the yolk without breaking it is the real challenge.


Actually I'd really like to see that. Video please.

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 9:09:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ah, I'm beginning to suspect you're a closet voyeur my dear.

Actually, I'm joking on this one, I'm pretty sure egg wouldn't be an excellent growth medium for bacteria, and the shells would chafe.

A more realistic skill would probably involve picking up and a carrying around objects of various weights without using your hands.

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 9:24:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I once (I swear to god) saw a chick shoot three pingpong balls outta her pussy.. across the room.

she followed it up by bouncing a billiards ball outta there and to the coffee table (about half the distance,....)

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 9:35:43 AM   
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Ah, I'm beginning to suspect you're a closet voyeur my dear.

Actually, I'm joking on this one, I'm pretty sure egg wouldn't be an excellent growth medium for bacteria, and the shells would chafe.

A more realistic skill would probably involve picking up and a carrying around objects of various weights without using your hands.



What do you mean "closet"? Ooooo I've been made to do that. It ain't easy but with concentration it's possible - and incredibly hot!

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 10:26:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, if you're gonna be a slut, you should be the best slut you can be!

Shit, I gotta work on my technique, so much pressure! For me it's a hard/soft thing with, I do this thing where I control my orgasm, extend it into multiples - it requires some finesse on the woman's part, if she starts going nuts on it at the critical moment it doesn't work, but done properly, after the first one I can get erections almost at will like all day long, so there's actually something in it for the patient pussy too, 'cause 4 or 5 hours later you're gonna be one limp biscuit.

Bree Olsen did the Swedish Ping Pong trick on Tosh 2.0, it was a watershed moment in network TV.

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 11:41:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: xssve

Well, if you're gonna be a slut, you should be the best slut you can be!

Shit, I gotta work on my technique, so much pressure! For me it's a hard/soft thing with, I do this thing where I control my orgasm, extend it into multiples - it requires some finesse on the woman's part, if she starts going nuts on it at the critical moment it doesn't work, but done properly, after the first one I can get erections almost at will like all day long, so there's actually something in it for the patient pussy too, 'cause 4 or 5 hours later you're gonna be one limp biscuit.

Bree Olsen did the Swedish Ping Pong trick on Tosh 2.0, it was a watershed moment in network TV.

Ok ... had to find this ... 

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 11:51:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: xssve

Well, if you're gonna be a slut, you should be the best slut you can be!

Shit, I gotta work on my technique, so much pressure! For me it's a hard/soft thing with, I do this thing where I control my orgasm, extend it into multiples - it requires some finesse on the woman's part, if she starts going nuts on it at the critical moment it doesn't work, but done properly, after the first one I can get erections almost at will like all day long, so there's actually something in it for the patient pussy too, 'cause 4 or 5 hours later you're gonna be one limp biscuit.

Bree Olsen did the Swedish Ping Pong trick on Tosh 2.0, it was a watershed moment in network TV.

Ok ... had to find this ... 

Firm



Of course you did, Firm, I've never known you to let a challenge go untested.

Sadly I have no such skills and to be honest I'm feeling just a tad unworthy of the title "slut" I suppose with work and the support of an awesome D-type I might be able to learn but the fear of failure - not to mention the absence of said D-type - keeps me from trying.

Zeph, the half-slut

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 12:12:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Never did try the ping pong balls either Zeph, so guess that makes me a half-slut too.  Then of course there's the same problem of not having a D in my life, he's being baked right now.  Just gotta wait til he's a little crispy on the edges, then he'll be done and find me or I'll find him. 

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 1:26:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth


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Well, if you're gonna be a slut, you should be the best slut you can be!

Shit, I gotta work on my technique, so much pressure! For me it's a hard/soft thing with, I do this thing where I control my orgasm, extend it into multiples - it requires some finesse on the woman's part, if she starts going nuts on it at the critical moment it doesn't work, but done properly, after the first one I can get erections almost at will like all day long, so there's actually something in it for the patient pussy too, 'cause 4 or 5 hours later you're gonna be one limp biscuit.

Bree Olsen did the Swedish Ping Pong trick on Tosh 2.0, it was a watershed moment in network TV.

Ok ... had to find this ... 

Firm



Of course you did, Firm, I've never known you to let a challenge go untested.

Sadly I have no such skills and to be honest I'm feeling just a tad unworthy of the title "slut" I suppose with work and the support of an awesome D-type I might be able to learn but the fear of failure - not to mention the absence of said D-type - keeps me from trying.

Zeph, the half-slut
That doesn't make you a half slut, it makes you a so-so slut instead of an exceptional slut - s'ok though, if I trained you you'd just leave me for some rich idiot you could wrap around your little finger with your new found skills and I'd have to start all over with some innocent slut.

Let me know when I've stepped in it would you?

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 1:31:46 PM   
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That doesn't make you a half slut, it makes you a so-so slut instead of an exceptional slut - s'ok though, if I trained you you'd just leave me for some rich idiot you could wrap around your little finger with your new found skills and I'd have to start all over with some innocent slut.

Let me know when I've stepped in it would you?


That would be pretty much....NOW. I would never do that, not ever. I may be a so-so slut but I'm an ethical slut - hmmm, where have I heard that before? Anyway if I left you it would be for a better reason than that.

Zeph

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 1:37:44 PM   
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That would be pretty much....NOW.


A slut that speaks her mind is a useful slut indeed. Unfortunately, when it comes to blurting out what on my mind, even if it means putting my foot in my mouth, I'm incorrigible. It's a character flaw I given up trying to change.

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I would never do that, not ever. I may be a so-so slut but I'm an ethical slut - hmmm, where have I heard that before? Anyway if I left you it would be for a better reason than that.


You mean like, he wouldn't make you do housework?

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 1:49:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Anyway, slut's just a word, I'm barely a half-dom myself I'm more of a pervert - I have, over the years, become a Master - a master of perversion!

As far as I'm concerned it's all a matter of use or lose it, we all have to take the big dirt nap eventually, I plan to go with a smile on my face and heart full of love for my fellow - woman.

What the hell am I saving it for?

So. housework.

Anybody else think no-strings housework is a huge bore? Anybody into dressing like a maid? Any interesting uses for a feather duster?

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RE: Is doing all household tasks worth a person's livin... - 10/1/2011 1:50:54 PM   
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You mean like, he wouldn't make you do housework?


Nooooooo it would be something important like if you turned out to be a complete idiot. Housework is a soft limit.


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A slut that speaks her mind is a useful slut indeed. Unfortunately, when it comes to blurting out what on my mind, even if it means putting my foot in my mouth, I'm incorrigible. It's a character flaw I given up trying to change.


Yeah well I'm like that too so if it's a character flaw we both have it.


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