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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/4/2011 9:49:45 PM   
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Grin, actually I think you'd got as close to it as I can!


Thanks for answering all my nosey questions. :)

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/5/2011 8:33:06 AM   
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Do you prefer the person you play with to enjoy the pain or hate the pain? And please elaborate, if you are willing.

Thanks! :)


Laughs.
All I expect of her is to TAKE the pain.
She's a slave. Her function is to serve, please and obey. If I want to hurt her I will. Depending on my mood, whether she gets anything out of it or not is irrelevant.


Let me rephrase. Would you prefer your slave to relish the pain you inflict? Or would you rather that she hate it? Or somewhere in-between? Or...as your post suggests, it doesn't matter, it's just the inflicting that addresses your sadistic needs?



The bottom line is that she take it.
She's a slave. Her role in my life is to serve, please, and obey. If she can't do that, WTF do I own the cunt? So yeah, in the end, it doesn't matter what she thinks/feels/wants. The only thing that matters is what I want. And if I want to hurt the slut, I will.

The rest is entirely mood dependent.
(Note that I can, in many ways, control how she acts by how I set the scene and interact with her.)

Some days I like it when she grooves to it. That's when I take her down real slow, soft, kinda glide her on in and then start slow, building piece by piece, each act turning the screw until she's awash in sensation.

Others I don't care if she likes it or not. She's just a piece of meat waiting for me to slake my desires. Those are the "it" days, when it is no longer anything but an object. These are the days I walk through the door, throw my keys down, grab it by the hair and slam it against the wall. Just fucking take. No questions asked. No comments. Just quick fast ruthless use of force.Yank it to the floor, still holding its hair and start whaling away with a belt soon to be followed by sodomy, gagging it with my cock. These tend to end in ravishment and mad violent sex, lots of pinching, clamps, biting, insertions, etc...

Then there are days where I genuinely enjoy the fact that she hates it, that it's an act of straight taking/inflicting. Those are the days I like to do shit that makes her howl like a beast, make her beg and crawl, do the humiliating things that she abhors, cry, while I keep coming back for moremoremore. Those are the days cigars and such come into play, that involve heavy aftercare, hard crashes on both sides. These are the scenes that scour the soul clean.But man, they are cathartic.

< Message edited by Kana -- 10/5/2011 8:37:26 AM >


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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/5/2011 9:31:50 AM   
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And with that there isnt a dry pair of panties in the house

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/5/2011 9:35:44 AM   
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Panties? I've heard of those things before.

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/5/2011 9:57:45 AM   
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seriously, somebody take Kana's keyboard away.
like... now.


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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/5/2011 10:00:39 AM   
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seriously, somebody take Kana's keyboard away.
like... now.

Too late.

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/5/2011 10:50:28 AM   
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I hate it when he has days like this.  <not really LOL>



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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/5/2011 11:02:53 AM   
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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/5/2011 12:08:51 PM   
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He has keys?
A proper sadist wouldn't be allowed anything so pointy.

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/5/2011 1:16:15 PM   
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Keys are fun but I far prefer knives...

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/5/2011 8:35:20 PM   
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Holy Shit Kana!

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/5/2011 10:38:37 PM   
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C'mon BSB. You're a domme. You know you've done the same :-)

Meanwhile, my response to the rest of the keyboard nabbers can be found at
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3873218/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm#3873881

*chortles*
And this little Kana laughed, laughed, laughed, all the way home.


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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/6/2011 12:53:14 AM   
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Hmm...thanks for the response Kana. :)

It would seem your sadistic nature is somewhat akin to Neapolitan ice cream...many flavoured. ;)

I don't know what's up lately...I've been making all of these food analogies. :D

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/6/2011 1:19:01 AM   
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I'm not an extreme sadist, I usually control a slave girl with spankings.
The problem is your cannot control a girl with spankings if she loves to be spanked, in fact its quite the oppopsite. I do realise you can control a girl who likes to be spanked with the words 'do has your told or you won't get spanked' but it just seems a bit odd!

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/14/2011 10:22:28 PM   
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As a submissive with something of a masochist side I agree with what an idea that was said earlier very strongly, so I thought I would emphasize it since it kind of got skipped over in the discussion: "I like suffering for someone who gets off from making me suffer."

This is key for me, and I expect for many other subs as well. The dominant partner has to be getting off on what she/he is doing when she is hurting me. If she gets off on my pain (or psychological pain in the case of humiliation) and the fact that I am accepting it and allowing it to happen, I will love it (I'm not into too severe pain though). That is also why I would never be interested in a pro dom whose idea of a session is to tie me up, whip me for a while, and leave. If they are whipping me because they think thats what they should be doing to dominate me and thats what I want since I hired a dominatrix, I would get nothing out of the whipping.

As you can probably guess I am with those who say that the "enjoyment" of pain inflicted by sadists is a very complicated issue. If the pain simply felt good to the sub, we wouldn't have any domination/sadism going on. Its the sadist getting off on the situation that lights the fire for me.

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/14/2011 10:46:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

After reading some of the seven year old posts that a new collarchat poster brought up (which were subsequently closed by the moderators) a question has come to mind regarding sadists. Do you prefer the person you play with to enjoy the pain or hate the pain? And please elaborate, if you are willing. I'm just wondering if most would be of one mind or the other, or if it's a relatively even split. Or maybe it's not even a question of one or the other but dependent on the person you're with.

Thanks! :)

Late in the topic, but wanted to address the OP.

I want them to enjoy it enough that they don't call the police, and that we remain together future "sessions." Beyond that, I can enjoy it either direction. Them liking it could be fun, them hating it could be fun too.

The only thing that I wouldn't like is if they remain passive to the pain. Not totally sure how this would be done, drugs perhaps, but it would defeat the entire enjoyment of dealing the pain.

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/14/2011 11:02:05 PM   
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Not totally sure how this would be done
Tell her not to move or make a sound.

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/14/2011 11:05:49 PM   
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Not totally sure how this would be done
Tell her not to move or make a sound.

But I wouldn't say that, would ruin it. Wait...suppose if it was a situation where you got to see their eyes quiver with fear, yeah, that could be fun. Eyes can be very expressive.

I was more talking a complete indifference to the pain. A coma perhaps.

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/15/2011 5:20:55 AM   
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Sometimes, if I am far enough into sub space, I stop reacting. But up to that point, I've reacted quite a bit!

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RE: A Question for Sadists - 10/15/2011 8:42:54 PM   
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I love it when a partner gets off on what I'm doing to her, but it's not necessary that she does.

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