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DarkSteven -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 5:52:59 AM)
On behalf of all the silly girls spouting nonsense at you, I apologize. You are doing everything correctly. The women who blocked you are all psycho bitches who didn't know what they wanted. Now that that's out of your system: Look, fella. You started off by hijacking a thread, a minor breach of etiquette. You were given explicit directions on how to start your own thread, which you disregarded and said something vague and unhelpful like "I can't post here". After you finally figured out how to post and gave some useful info about your problem with women blocking you, you got unanimous consensus what the issue was from women (your target audience), and some fascinating suggestions from Endevius, who described his methods to succeed exactly where you had complained that you had failed. In short, nobody could complain about not getting what he asked for. Except you. So let me tell you what the real problem is. By the time you set up meeting plans, those women never had any intent of meeting you. Somewhere in the last conversations they had with you, you committed a huge faux pas. I have no idea what it was - it could well have been asking for their address or asking them to meet at your place. Whatever it was, their main concern was to get off the phone as soon as possible, block you, and get you the hell out of their lives. They agreed to meet you because they knew if they DID tell you what they'd done, they'd get into a pointless, directionless argument with you that went nowhere, kinda like you've been doing in this thread. You did something wrong, so wrong they wanted OUT, and enough to knock out four out of four. Yeah, I know. You have thirteen years in the lifestyle, and you had been talking to them for weeks, and you think you'd done everything correctly. Well, if they hadn't all blocked you, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Note that YOU are the common element with all four - logic indicates that you are the problem.

searching4mysir -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 5:53:44 AM)
At 43, I'm in the same age as your target audience. You are pushing too hard, too fast, and if your responses here are any example of how you behave when you write/talk to them, you don't listen. If you aren't going to take the time to LISTEN then how can I trust you? I perved your profile and noticed that you "outed" someone as a "fraud". Not cool. Since you mentioned an age, I have a feeling this is one of the women who blocked you. I perved her profile as well, and she actually seemed pretty normal (until I checked out her photos). I'm tempted to write and get her side of the story. You write this in your journal: quote: if your full of shit and a fake,DONT SEND A FUCKING MESSEGE.if you use this site to be someone your DONT SEND A FUCKING MESSEGE. if you come on here and go through the time to get to know only to make excuses when its time to meet face to face,save us both time and DONT SEND A FUCKING MESSEGE. I know alot of guys come on here claiming to be doms but really they are pathetic wannabies but alot of you girls are exactly the same.is it so much to ask to talk to someone who is real?i have my doubts that they exist.most of you both men and women are bullshit artists.get a fuckin life and quit wasting others time It just makes you sound like an insecure jerk. Quite frankly, if they are a bullshit artist you have delusions of grandeur if you think they are going to listen to you because you write something in your journal. I understand frustration, but you are putting together a picture of yourself made of electrons that isn't attractive. Your profile says you believe that respect, honesty, and communication are important in a relationship, but there cannot be communication of one person isn't listening. She cannot respect you if she cannot trust you. You ask for our help, oh "Domly-One", and then you tell us that WE have the communication problem because you don't like our answers. YOU are the common denominator in all these online communications and phone conversations. If you are having the same problem over and over, then the problem is with YOU, not them.

frazzle -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:00:45 AM)
I am suprised some on here have ever stepped out their front doors, with the paranoia about meeting others. There is nothing creepy about suggesting her place, his place. Hell i recently flew out to northen ireland to stay with someone id not met in person. I've invited people to meet at mine for dinner. As to the OP just cut your losses if people wont meet, far too many will never leave their computers.

dom66666 -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:00:46 AM)
lilbopeep,why if they are just not interested do they say and act interested then?its one thing to say from the get go,that they are not interested.i say it at least a couple times a day.none of you have answered my question.you are focussed only where to meet.that isnt the f-in question.the question is,if they arent interested in meeting,why say they are.if they are not interested in getting to know me,why spend weeks doinng just that?if they are not interested period from the start,why not say it from the start.ive been rejected many times,its no bbig deal.i know not everyone will like me,oh well.ive rejected girls also.its not about rejection. if you told me you were not intetested in,id say cool,good luck to you.but,if you.were interested in me and I got to know you,i told you about my family outside of bdsm and you told me about yours.and we talked for 3-4 weeks getting to know everything about eachother and then you agree we should meet,if I out of the blue blocked you,can you honestly say you wouldnt be hurt and angry?if I blocked you after you agreed that we should meet,and I gave you the choice where you might want to meet and then again,i block you,you would be full of shit if you say that you wouldnt be hurt,confussed and angry.

LillyBoPeep -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:05:52 AM)
did you not read DS's post? somewhere along the way, as you have done from minute 1 during your time here on the forum, you made some sort of ridiculous faux-pas that put that person off. perhaps they WERE interested in you at some point, but by the time you ask to meet, that has changed and they no longer are. if you think you can get to know "everything about each other" in 3-4 weeks, you are sadly mistaken, and that "rush rush rush!" mentality, or lack of an accurate understanding of how you and your motivations are perceived, is part of why you are failing. you still aren't understanding, it's not about "the choice" on where to meet, it's about the fact that you even suggest a personal residence to begin with. questions have multiple answers. why are they taking time to get to know you and not turning up? because of AAAAAALLLLLL these things we've repeatedly spelled out to you. there is no one single neat-n-clean answer.

GreedyTop -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:08:00 AM)
quote: lilbopeep,why if they are just not interested do they say and act interested then?its one thing to say from the get go,that they are not interested.i say it at least a couple times a day.none of you have answered my question.you are focussed only where to meet.that isnt the f-in question.the question is,if they arent interested in meeting,why say they are.if they are not interested in getting to know me,why spend weeks doinng just that?if they are not interested period from the start,why not say it from the start.ive been rejected many times,its no bbig deal.i know not everyone will like me,oh well.ive rejected girls also.its not about rejection. if you told me you were not intetested in,id say cool,good luck to you.but,if you.were interested in me and I got to know you,i told you about my family outside of bdsm and you told me about yours.and we talked for 3-4 weeks getting to know everything about eachother and then you agree we should meet,if I out of the blue blocked you,can you honestly say you wouldnt be hurt and angry?if I blocked you after you agreed that we should meet,and I gave you the choice where you might want to meet and then again,i block you,you would be full of shit if you say that you wouldnt be hurt,confussed and angry. quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop you're asking why? BECAUSE YOU SUGGEST YOUR PLACE, HER PLACE or coffeeshops, etc... as if a public place is an afterthought (and since you keep putting those in that order on here, I'm willing to bet you put them in THAT ORDER when talking to the women). Once again.. serious CREEP FACTOR. It could be that until THAT MOMENT, they DID want to meet up. as soon as ya mentioned home addresses etc, it practically SCREAMS STALKER!! STALKERETA: quote:* i understand safety obviously, you don't.

dom66666 -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:10:59 AM)
I have the address of the last girl that did this.instead of driving there and acting like a stalker,i came on cm chat to get others opinions.to all you fucks calling me names,you dont know me.its funny how easy it is to call someone names on a computer screen though,isnt it?i doubt seriously you would say it face to face.unlike alot of you calling me names,thats my real pic posted.i dont put pictures up to mask who I am like some of you do.im not a coward nor am I afraid for someone to know who I am cause I back everything ive said,you just call people names while you hide behinda computer screen. im a good guy and those that know me know it.i dont like being angry but if you attack me,im going to defend myself.noone wins when name calling occurs but again,im no coward.

GreedyTop -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:12:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: frazzle I am suprised some on here have ever stepped out their front doors, with the paranoia about meeting others. There is nothing creepy about suggesting her place, his place. Hell i recently flew out to northen ireland to stay with someone id not met in person. I've invited people to meet at mine for dinner. As to the OP just cut your losses if people wont meet, far too many will never leave their computers. Frazzle.. I have done the same thing.. hell, I flew to the Netherlands and to the UK to spend time with folks I obviously had never met before. The difference being that (a) we had spent more than a few weeks talking via phone/skype/etc, and (b)obviously, meeting them casually for coffee, or what have you wasnt an option for me. Another thing to consider is that nto everyone has the same level of confidence (or foolishness, depending on point of view).

Kana -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:13:42 AM)
quote: if you think you can get to know "everything about each other" in 3-4 weeks, you are sadly mistaken Aw, c'mon, what takes others a lifetime takes 66666 (Satan's great-grandkid?) mere weeks. Tremble and bow in recognition. :-) edited cuz I missed a 6. Bad Kana. Bad.

GreedyTop -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:15:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dom66666 I have the address of the last girl that did this.instead of driving there and acting like a stalker,i came on cm chat to get others opinions.to all you fucks calling me names,you dont know me.its funny how easy it is to call someone names on a computer screen though,isnt it?i doubt seriously you would say it face to face.unlike alot of you calling me names,thats my real pic posted.i dont put pictures up to mask who I am like some of you do.im not a coward nor am I afraid for someone to know who I am cause I back everything ive said,you just call people names while you hide behinda computer screen. im a good guy and those that know me know it.i dont like being angry but if you attack me,im going to defend myself.noone wins when name calling occurs but again,im no coward. who's calling you names? and once again, you disregard the comments made by folks who are in your target audience, AND advice offered by folks who obviously are more successful than you have been. good luck, kiddo.. I think you're going to need it, unless you learn how to LISTEN.

LillyBoPeep -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:15:13 AM)
i flew to the UK to visit my ex, and stayed with him for 2 weeks. we'd never met each other in person before that. it's all in how a person represents himself. the OP clearly represents himself in a such a way where women choose not to meet him. other people don't. there's a lesson to be learned there.

LillyBoPeep -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:16:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dom66666 thats my real pic posted.i dont put pictures up to mask who I am like some of you do.im not a coward nor am I afraid for someone to know who I am cause I back everything ive said,you just call people names while you hide behinda computer screen. i dunno what this even means. the majority of posts have been from people with actual pictures posted, as well.

dom66666 -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:18:30 AM)
he one I outed as a fraud is NOT one of the women im speaking of.i call her a fraud because she asked me for money.she said basically that she is a willing slave to anyone who can pay for it.that is a fraud,im sure you agree.

searching4mysir -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:25:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dom66666 I have the address of the last girl that did this.instead of driving there and acting like a stalker,i came on cm chat to get others opinions.to all you fucks calling me names,you dont know me.its funny how easy it is to call someone names on a computer screen though,isnt it?i doubt seriously you would say it face to face.unlike alot of you calling me names,thats my real pic posted.i dont put pictures up to mask who I am like some of you do.im not a coward nor am I afraid for someone to know who I am cause I back everything ive said,you just call people names while you hide behinda computer screen. im a good guy and those that know me know it.i dont like being angry but if you attack me,im going to defend myself.noone wins when name calling occurs but again,im no coward. Wow...it sounds to me as if you lose your cool easily. Could this be something they picked up on? If so, an out-of-control dom is a dangerous dom.

searching4mysir -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:29:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dom66666 he one I outed as a fraud is NOT one of the women im speaking of.i call her a fraud because she asked me for money.she said basically that she is a willing slave to anyone who can pay for it.that is a fraud,im sure you agree. Fraud, not necessarily. Pro-sub/prostitute? Yep. She would be a fraud if she were male, pretending to be a female sub and wouldn't take it offline but wanted your money anyway.

TheFireWithinMe -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:29:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep quote: ORIGINAL: dom66666 thats my real pic posted.i dont put pictures up to mask who I am like some of you do.im not a coward nor am I afraid for someone to know who I am cause I back everything ive said,you just call people names while you hide behinda computer screen. i dunno what this even means. the majority of posts have been from people with actual pictures posted, as well. Yeah that and as far as I know noone has questioned the veracity of your pic/profile. I'm thinking it's your quick temper that makes them turn tail and run.

Kana -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:31:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheFireWithinMe quote: ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep quote: ORIGINAL: dom66666 thats my real pic posted.i dont put pictures up to mask who I am like some of you do.im not a coward nor am I afraid for someone to know who I am cause I back everything ive said,you just call people names while you hide behinda computer screen. i dunno what this even means. the majority of posts have been from people with actual pictures posted, as well. Yeah that and as far as I know noone has questioned the veracity of your pic/profile. I'm thinking it's your quick temper that makes them turn tail and run. Or the spelling/punctuation issues. :-)

dom66666 -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:34:15 AM)
o dark steven,thanks,i get that.really I do.the funny thing is I never had an issue bbefore coming on to cm.all the girls I trained in the past were girls I met at lifestyle parties.a friend told me to go to cm and fetlife,though I dont really care for fetlife,and that more women here are looking for love,not just training.so far id have to say my experience on cm is so good.i have met some wonderful women on here and we are good friends.ive acually bneen to their homes and they have been to mine.for whatever reason,i just cant seem to find that special one to love.im sure its me but it has to be them in some small way also. I apriciate everyones thoughts on this subject and I will adhere the advise to my way of doing things.for those who only call me names though,i meant everything I said before.think about it this does not pertain to darksteven. ps,its kinda funny being called fella.noone has ever called me that before but I find it entertaining.thanks again

TheFireWithinMe -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:36:13 AM)
quote: Or the spelling/punctuation issues. :-) Well...yeah...that. Spelling/punctuation issues are on my "don't even bother to contact me" list. However the temper is alarming to say the least.

dom66666 -> RE: subs and slaves shed some light (10/16/2011 6:41:57 AM)
it was meant for the one calling mea stalker.if it has nothing to do with you,dont assume it somehow does.ive been attacke on here from several people but wn I defend myself,you say im quick tempered.if I was to call you bitch and you replied with aggression,could I really claim you to have a temper problem?is case you dont know,the answer is no I couldnt yet when im attacked and I defend myself,you say I have a temper.funny how that works.

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