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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/10/2011 1:13:10 PM   
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The people I think are most disgusting?  The family that would give some stranger their old family pet without checking to make sure the animal was going to a good home. 


Why would they be most disgusting?
They sold the animal they had scheduled to be put down to a person who put it down humanely.
How is that disgusting?

What evidence do you have that this horse was an old family pet? For all you know, it was a work horse, or a old PMU mare the previous owners where desperate to get ride off. Maybe they neglected it already. Or maybe, it was indeed and old family pet, with health issues, and the owners didn't have the money to take care of it, which meant they'd rather put it down than leave it to suffer any longer.
You really don't know, do you?

While I personally don't quite understand why she decided to pose with the carcass as she did, I'm more disturbed by you seemingly thinking that the reason it's an issue is because she did it with a horse, and not some other death animal.
I mean, would you have been happier if she had done it with a cow carcass instead? And if not, why the overemphasize on the fact that it's a horse as the primary reason of it being disgusting?

I know Americans are weird about eating horse meat, and somehow seem to think that the life of a horse is worth more than that of other livestock. Being European myself, and having eaten horse meat quite frequently when I still lived there, I don't get that.

The American attitude towards horse meat has reached the point where most people won't even by dog food anymore when it's got horse meat in it. It makes no sense at all...
Meat is meat, and if you're so compassionate about the horses, why not about all the EXTRA cows that now need to be slaughtered to fulfill the demand for meat that the market has, when perfectly good horse meat is thrown away instead of being used properly.

I really don't get how people can make sense of the line of thinking so many seem to have: "I love animals; I love horses, they are my friends; I don't want to eat my friends; therefor I'm going to have perfectly good meat of animals who lived a long, good and fulfilling life be thrown away and have a bunch of cows raised in crappy little feedlots instead -never being allowed the freedom a horse enjoys- to make up for the difference; cows are food anyways, so it doesn't matter if a bunch more of them suffer because of my actions, as long as nobody eats my precious friends; because I LOVE animals!"

So please, do explain to me... why exactly does it upset you that she did this to a HORSE instead of the fact that she did this to an ANIMAL being upsetting?



I don't understand it either, when it comes to horses...but if it involved a dog Id be just as outraged....so I can't quibble with her take on it being disgusting.

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/10/2011 1:33:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not disgusted at all by the fact the fact that ate the horse. I'm not a vegetarian, and I don't tend to think of eating meat the way so many obviously do.

The posing and the pictures and the reasoning behind doing so are what I find really disgusting. I don't find it "artsy," "introspective," or any of those other terms some who support what she did might apply to that.

As far as eating animals and feeling bad about it? I have a cat, and could not eat MY cat. If something were my pet and I developed a owner/pet relationship with it, I would not be able to eat it. Good reason to never be a pig or cattle farmer, lol. I do love animals, and if I "know" the animal personally, nope, can't eat it. So if someone were to serve me squirrel (cooked properly, I assume), I wouldn't care. But I couldn't lure the squirrel to my windowsill with treats to kill it, skin it and cook it up.

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/10/2011 2:50:56 PM   
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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/10/2011 6:19:58 PM   
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now that fucker should be a quote of the day. you're one sick fuck popeye.


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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/10/2011 9:32:43 PM   
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"they sold it to somebody who put it down humanely. what the fuck more do you want out of the previous owners? "

The fact is who the fuck cares ? Beakless chickens, cows with udders down in the mud with the pigs, what is done to animals is cruel. That's a fact of life. They are slaughtered for our food. Tough shit. When they come up with a way to eat us for food, then that will be our problem.

We should not cause any unnecessary cruelty to animals or anything, but we do. We shouldn't do it to humans either, if you can call them that. The fact is if you really cared about animal cruelty you would only buy meat from certain sources, certified to not do nasty shit or something, and costing much more. You got extra money do so, and send me some so I can also do so.

That shit qualifies as alot more than anything we do. If we want acceptance then we must offer acceptance to this. It does not involve non-consentual, rape, molestation, children, mutilation (of anyhting alive) or anything else.

This is the test. If you are going to ask for tolerance, let's see how good you are at giving it.

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/10/2011 9:35:24 PM   
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Pieces of shit. Its people like that that need to be taken out of the gene pool


Why ? They shot an old horse that was going to die anyway.

They did not rape your kitty.

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/10/2011 9:38:37 PM   
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Assholes, what a way to treat a pet.


I would've dug it a hole and shot it myself. I know a few people who have shot their dogs, and they loved these dogs. They knew they were suffering and just had to do it. (old)

But a horse requires a bigger hole. Now if it was laziness....... fuckum.

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/10/2011 9:46:36 PM   
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So please, do explain to me... why exactly does it upset you that she did this to a HORSE instead of the fact that she did this to an ANIMAL being upsetting?


I am seconding that without much embellishment.

What if it was a mountain lion ? Or a fox ? Or slug ? Or a bunnyrabbit ? The abominable snowman ? Freddy Kruger ?

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/10/2011 10:19:31 PM   
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I have no problem with eating healthy horse meat.

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/10/2011 10:29:49 PM   
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The posing and the pictures and the reasoning behind doing so are what I find really disgusting. I don't find it "artsy," "introspective," or any of those other terms some who support what she did might apply to that.


That's the thing about art, isn't it? It is quite subjective. Simply because it isn't art to you doesn't mean it isn't art to others.

No laws were broken, no torture happened. So why do we care?

Whatever happened to not giving a fuck what other people do so long as it isn't illegal? After all in absolutely zero countries do people have the right not to be offended. Why don't we take the advice we give children and simply ignore it and move on?


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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/10/2011 10:39:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm okay with edgy art...but yeah, crawling into a dead horse? ODD. I have no issue with eating horse meat, they do it in other countries.



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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/10/2011 10:45:13 PM   
Termyn8or


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It's because it's a nice horsey and we luv it. We don't lov the cow or the pig. As far as crawling into it, I have seen weirder things, althought it has been quite rare.

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/11/2011 2:57:12 AM   
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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/11/2011 3:10:43 AM   
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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/11/2011 8:22:33 AM   
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Whatever happened to not giving a fuck what other people do so long as it isn't illegal?
because whether something is legal or not really isn't even a fucking consideration, the only thing worth considering is if an action is right or wrong. if its wrong then its fucking well wrong no matter how legal it might be.

in this case, i still want it to be wrong, but it isn't. i simply cannot find a valid reason for it to be, other than that it pisses me the fuck off, but that isn't enough.

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/11/2011 8:23:37 AM   
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Whatever happened to not giving a fuck what other people do so long as it isn't illegal?
because whether something is legal or not really isn't even a fucking consideration, the only thing worth considering is if an action is right or wrong. if its wrong then its fucking well wrong no matter how legal it might be.

in this case, i still want it to be wrong, but it isn't. i simply cannot find a valid reason for it to be, other than that it pisses me the fuck off, but that isn't enough.




yep, I gotta agree with this.

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/11/2011 9:43:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I couldn't get your link to work but I googled it and found a story of a pet horse named Snap that was killed and had parts removed but that story indicated that he had not been given away but was actually still their pet.  Sad.

I know we here in the USA find the idea of eating horse repugnant but it is quite common in other places.

Referring to your story, did it say why they crawled inside the horse or why they speculate they crawled inside?

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/11/2011 9:48:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		So if someone were to serve me squirrel (cooked properly, I assume), I wouldn't care. But I couldn't lure the squirrel to my windowsill with treats to kill it, skin it and cook it up.

hehehe you should come to dinner sometime ... I just got some squirrels and we are having them for dinner ... yes ma'am properly cooked

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/11/2011 10:00:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I looked at the pics, and how gleeful the chick seemed to be sticking her head out of a horse, covered in its guts...

ODD. I keep thinking WTF? I would feel the same if she did that to a pig or sheep or cow.

I can see not knackering a family pet, but sending it off so someone else will knacker it. At least it didn't go to waste.

IT'S STILL FUCKING ODD.

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RE: It may not be illegal, but it is certainly disturbing - 11/11/2011 12:14:48 PM   
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The posing and the pictures and the reasoning behind doing so are what I find really disgusting. I don't find it "artsy," "introspective," or any of those other terms some who support what she did might apply to that.


That's the thing about art, isn't it? It is quite subjective. Simply because it isn't art to you doesn't mean it isn't art to others.


Although in this case, I would be in the majority not finding it all that artsy, even with the artsy types.

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No laws were broken, no torture happened. So why do we care?

Whatever happened to not giving a fuck what other people do so long as it isn't illegal? After all in absolutely zero countries do people have the right not to be offended. Why don't we take the advice we give children and simply ignore it and move on?



What happened to it? When people started posted their oddities on the internet for the world to "judge," guess what? We judged.

Perhaps you weren't specifically responding to me, but I didn't really say I was horribly offended, regardless of wanting PETA to chase the woman. I said I found what she did disgusting and gross. Huge difference.

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