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Lucylastic -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 1:46:23 PM)

I wouldnt expect you to come back with anything else, YOUR posting history is indicative of your bias confimation




tazzygirl -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 1:50:58 PM)

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Third, once more because of yours and Tazzy's posting history, it seems more than likely that... rather than keeping an open mind... you have judged Cain guilty simply because it suits your political leanings and personal prejudices.


Flip flop, flip flop




Lucylastic -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 1:51:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

you notice why a majority of women here arent calling them(women) liars?
why is that do you think?


First, up to this point, there have been only TWO women posting in this thread, at all.  Yours and Tazzy's posting history speaks for itself.

Second, I can't say that I've seen any of the men in this thread saying outright that the accusers are lying.  You may feel differently, but again, yours and Tazzy's posting history speaks for itself; neither of you don't appear to be typically willing to give anyone with politically opposed views to yourself any benefit of the doubt. 

Third, once more because of yours and Tazzy's posting history, it seems more than likely that... rather than keeping an open mind... you have judged Cain guilty simply because it suits your political leanings and personal prejudices.

You may vociferously disagree and say that you are stating what you think is obvious, but there are others who have the capacity to step back to consider a broader array of variables.  Some of us would prefer to wait for all the evidence to surface, and acknowledge that we may never know the truth.

Finally, if the number of women posting in this thread is any reliable measure of the veracity of the accusers, the bigger question is why aren't there more than two women posters supporting them here?


Where have I Posted he is guilty??? I havent said he is guilty, In FACT I have said three times i WANT TO SEE MORE INFORMATION
I think you need to read more and guess less





FirmhandKY -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 1:52:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

They keep insisting this is an emotional outburst.

How many realize this research was done in 1985.

Why is that important?

In 1984, Tracey Thurman was awarded 2.3 million dollars in damages from the city of Torrington, Connecticut.
http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Taubman

The fact that women couldnt even get a police department to honor a restraining order at that time should definitely speak to the fear level of being beaten by a man they know for reporting him for rape.

1. The entire research article was published in 2009, and based on previous research done over the previous two decades, with most of the data from the mid-90s to the present.

2. You can't get a police department to enforce a protective order, pretty much anywhere, even today.

Firm




TreasureKY -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 1:54:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I wouldnt expect you to come back with anything else, YOUR posting history is indicative of your bias confimation


You mean evidence of my bias, don't you?  Bias confirmation (confirmation bias) is a tendency for people to favor information that confirms their preconceptions or hypotheses regardless of whether the information is true.  It would be silly to say that I hold up and agree with my own postings as confirmation that I am right.

And of course, I expected you to come back with some kind of dig on me rather than address what I posted.  [;)]




slvemike4u -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 1:56:54 PM)

What seems more than likely to me is that a number of posters here are twisting themselves into pretzel like shapes in order to defend the ideological flavor of the month candidate of their choice.
Despite reports of reprehensible conduct.
If I needed to work this hard to convince myself and others of the worthiness of a given candidate...I just might reexamine my motives...but that's just me.None of this matters a hill of beans...his candidacy was never going anywhere anyway(no organization) his exit stage right is preordained




TreasureKY -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 1:58:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Where have I Posted he is guilty??? I havent said he is guilty, In FACT I have said three times i WANT TO SEE MORE INFORMATION
I think you need to read more and guess less


I'm sorry if I've missed where you've defended Cain's innocence or condemned those who are proclaiming him guilty and his campaign dead.  I don't have a lot of time to play around in here all day long.




Lucylastic -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:01:05 PM)

that wasnt a dig
actually I meant biased confirmation
yawn,
but you started the dig first, as usual.

oh and JUST TO reiterate the TRUTH
NEITHER TAZZY OR I HAVE SAID HE IS GUILTY
SO you are a liar




TreasureKY -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:02:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

What seems more than likely to me is that a number of posters here are twisting themselves into pretzel like shapes in order to defend the ideological flavor of the month candidate of their choice.
Despite reports of reprehensible conduct.
If I needed to work this hard to convince myself and others of the worthiness of a given candidate...I just might reexamine my motives...but that's just me.None of this matters a hill of beans...his candidacy was never going anywhere anyway(no organization) his exit stage right is preordained


Yes, Mike... we all know how much you dislike Cain and how you're disappointed that anyone else can possible consider him as a viable candidate at this point; you've posted it numerous times in many different threads. 

Repeating yourself doesn't help your situation.




slvemike4u -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:02:40 PM)

Treasure his campaign is dead....as a matter of fact it always wasWhere is the organization,where are the operatives ?
Answer there are none,there never was...this is/ was and always intended to be little more than a book tour.




Lucylastic -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:04:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Where have I Posted he is guilty??? I havent said he is guilty, In FACT I have said three times i WANT TO SEE MORE INFORMATION
I think you need to read more and guess less


I'm sorry if I've missed where you've defended Cain's innocence or condemned those who are proclaiming him guilty and his campaign dead.  I don't have a lot of time to play around in here all day long.


then dont LIE about me saying he is guilty when you dont know the damn truth




TreasureKY -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:09:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh and JUST TO reiterate the TRUTH
NEITHER TAZZY OR I HAVE SAID HE IS GUILTY


So you think he's innocent.  Got it.






tazzygirl -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:09:59 PM)

Charles P. McDowell, a researcher in the United States Air Force Special Studies Division, studied the 1,218 reports of rape that were made between 1980 and 1984 on Air Force bases throughout the world (McDowell, 1985). Of those, 460 were found to be "proven" allegations either because the "overwhelming preponderance of the evidence" strongly supported the allegation or because there was a conviction in the case. ....

The research was done between 1980 and 1984... the results written and reported in 1985





Lucylastic -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:11:07 PM)

cant help it can you.




tazzygirl -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:11:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

What seems more than likely to me is that a number of posters here are twisting themselves into pretzel like shapes in order to defend the ideological flavor of the month candidate of their choice.
Despite reports of reprehensible conduct.
If I needed to work this hard to convince myself and others of the worthiness of a given candidate...I just might reexamine my motives...but that's just me.None of this matters a hill of beans...his candidacy was never going anywhere anyway(no organization) his exit stage right is preordained


They can twist in the wind for all I care, mike. Repeatedly women on this thread have been called liars, gold diggers and worse... all in the argument of a man who cant even keep his stories straight.




tazzygirl -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:13:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh and JUST TO reiterate the TRUTH
NEITHER TAZZY OR I HAVE SAID HE IS GUILTY


So you think he's innocent.  Got it.





you can think whatever you like treasure. try reading posts, maybe you will find out the truth for yourself.




TreasureKY -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:14:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Treasure his campaign is dead....as a matter of fact it always wasWhere is the organization,where are the operatives ?
Answer there are none,there never was...this is/ was and always intended to be little more than a book tour.



Well, damn... I guess his supporters and the media just haven't received their memos from you declaring it dead.  Better get on that.

Speaking of book tours... have you forgotten The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream and Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance?




mnottertail -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:15:52 PM)

One of those men is president of the united states, and the other one a piss poor pizza cutter and nothing more.

(Just to point out the obvious.... someday.




TreasureKY -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:17:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh and JUST TO reiterate the TRUTH
NEITHER TAZZY OR I HAVE SAID HE IS GUILTY


So you think he's innocent.  Got it.





you can think whatever you like treasure. try reading posts, maybe you will find out the truth for yourself.


lol... Reading posts here and finding the truth?  Ha!




tazzygirl -> RE: Cain Accusers' Press Conference ... (11/11/2011 2:20:27 PM)

Yeah, didnt think you would put the effort into that.

Its ok.

[:D]




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