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Termyn8or -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/20/2011 8:42:42 PM)

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Playing rough is a bit different, our Springer spaniel...................


Y'know I am the biggest asshole on here but I got an idea. Someday, load up your ipod or whatever with a bunch of songs and wear headphones for a time. Interact without being able to hear.

I don't just think this way because of the deaf people I have known and the ear infections I have had, I think if you deprive yourself of hearing for a [short] time you can better understand how to improve communication.

Can you feel him move about the house like he can feel you ? You should. If you play this right you will get alot more out of it than you think. Understand what it might be to go without any one of your senses. An ipad with headphones can take care of hearing. Maybe another day opaque glasses can do the same thing for sight. Gloves might make you appreciate tactile sense more, and of course ye olde chastity belt would make you appreciate ....... you know.

You can sharpen your other senses. I was taught a long time ago how to feel people. It's not an aura or some shit, you cna feel them on the "floor". That's how Frank Dux defeated that big Chink. Of course that has disputers but so does everything. Supposedly Dux was blinded in a full contact martial arts match and still prevailed. How ?

Feel. But you have feel and see. Take this as a chance to improve yourself and know more. Think just how dependent you may be on anything when things can live without basic senses, appreciate the fact that you don't have to do without and then try to understand and more importantly - communicate.

Of course you already do, but doing it better is a good thing - for both of you.

So grab that fucker by the lower lip, drag his ass up to you, and then immediately pet him, praise him in fact. He should be licking your face if you allow it. Now pick a hand for the teleprompter.

You need to have a primary hand to communicate. Pick a time to establish that and go with it. Stick with it and don't change up. Get a routine in your own head that when you say certain words you make your hand move a certain way. Stick to it, he will. If you are going to invent a language it is best if you are trained in it's usage. So pay attention to what you do.

You have to figure it out for you. You might wind up using your left hand say, and to get his attention you stomp the floor twice. He then looks and then your hand tells him what to do. Something like that.

In all, no matter what anyone says, the dog wants to please you. All you have to do is tell him how.

On with it. And get those pictures.

T^T



stellauk -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/20/2011 8:49:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

You do not hurt, but you could pick him up by the hair and throw him a few feet. It doesn't hurt or injure them but it scares the shit out of them.



Are you sure about this?

Let's try that logic in reverse. You're fostering a dog and it approaches you, back straight, head low, low growl, showing it's teeth. Doesn't have to be a large dog, such as a Rottweiler, or Doberman, but say a medium sized dog such as a border collie. Or maybe a bit smaller, say an Amstaff? It scares you enough to consider that you're about to get your balls bitten off.

How do you respond to that?

You're dealing with an animal, and cutesy pics and the term pet aside, it's still a symbiotic relationship with something that doesn't think like you and doesn't always understand. Trust is extremely important.

It's like when I had my cat Trotsky. Trotsky was a smart cat, he could open the fridge door. I could go away for the weekend and he'd be fine because we understood that the bottom shelf of the fridge was his, and anything on it he could eat. Had his litter tray in a cupboard in the hallway because he demanded privacy and he'd go in the cupboard, close the door, do his thing, and come back out again.

However one day he came back from somewhere and he stank. There was no way round it. He needed a bath. Problem is of course, cats are independent, and they don't like water. They are also equipped with teeth and claws which can shred human skin and, as I also discovered, household rubber gloves. They also don't come with handles, which complicates matters when you have a wet soapy cat shredding your skin to bits.

There was no way round it. Trotsky needed rinsing, and the only way to do it was by using the toilet. In Poland fortunately you get the German type of toilets with the 'viewing' shelf, onto which Trotsky was quickly placed, seat and lid down and a few flushes. Flushed once, twice to make sure, and sure enough lifted the lid and seat and Trotsky shot out like a bullet into the living room. Cleared the bathroom and the hallway.

Trotsky was pissed, and I mean pissed. Six days. He ignored me for six days. Whenever I was in the room he would sit on the window sill looking out of the window with his back to me. Not even leaving a can of tuna open next to him worked. I had to go out and buy smoked mackerel, and after the smoked mackerel he got over it and forgave me. Spent a fortune on fish that week.

First thing, never ever bath a cat. Especially not if you like having skin.

But also never ever play around with the trust any animal places in you.



Termyn8or -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/20/2011 9:18:36 PM)

Dear Stella;

You just don't understand dominant. The human MUST be the alpha. It's really the same thing as a power exchange, but interspecies. and control must be absolute. You like my opinions ? well, here's some.

Assholes who breed dogs to be agressive or even malicious do so because they have no self fucking confidence. They want to be protected by a dog and that is worng. Those assholes are who breed over half of the dogs that need to be put down in this fucking country. Complete assholes who think nothing of the consequences of their actions.

I'll shoot their dogs and them too, because taking cancer out of our society is like pulling weeds, you have to get the roots. It's a shame the animals were ever born. Sometimes that is true of the "humans" as well. I am not an easy Man for reconciliation on some matters. And on some matters it is too late and the retribution is right and just and should not be abated.

But with any animal we must be the alpha unless it is out in the wild. We are at the top of the food chain not because of physical attributes, but becauser of guile, cunning, intelligence and of course our enhanced desire also known as greed. So be it with pets. They are fucking lucky. They ciould be those horses referred to in another thread. Now that sucks.

Any fucking dog doesn't like me kicking it's ass if it chomps up some of my expensive shit - can just leave the backyard and go fuck up someone else's shit. The motherfucker ain't even a Woman.

That's a Man, I see things straight. As much as I might like a dog or a cat, or who the fuck knows what else, there will be no emotional attachment, ever.

There is more to this and it's not quite right to leave yall this way, but so what.

T^T



Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/20/2011 10:15:06 PM)


Yup. More clear. We're not gonna play revolving crate no, but I use a treat to get him go go in, and possibly a treat coming out. But most certainly love and tlc. No it's just enough room to sit lay down turn around but it takes up a lot of room , it's not discreet or easily hidden away lol.

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Not a miscommunication, just me not being very clear. My point is that you don't want to put him in and out of the crate just for putting him in and out of the crate's sake. Is that more clear? If he is going to be crated when you go out, then leave it to when you go out, or for those occasions when he needs to be locked up for company, like Thanksgiving.

You said it is a huge crate. Does he have room to do more than stand up and turn around?



Termyn8or -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/20/2011 10:27:42 PM)

I hate to write more after being so loquacious, but I must say something.

NEVER crate as a punishment.

This may be hard to do after he eats a third of your thousand dollar pilowtop Sealy posturpedic, but money doesn't mean shit. If it did, you would not ever have a dog.

T^T



Rule -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/20/2011 10:46:54 PM)

FR

Dog whisperer Cesar Milan bites back with his hand after being bitten by a dog.

Dog recipes:
1. Have a walk with your dog every day for 45 minutes or longer, and do not always walk the same route
2. Do not talk to your dog. The beast simply thinks that you produce meaningless noise
3. Communicate your desires non-verbally to your dog
4. Be calm and assertive, always
5. Claim your space and things



Rule -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/20/2011 10:58:56 PM)

I recommend that you watch a couple of dozens of episodes of The Dog Whisperer.



Termyn8or -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 1:09:51 AM)

Rule, he has a good method, but it's not for everybody.

BULEEVE ME it's not for everybody. Ever have a dog save you from the cops ?

Different strokes. Maybe not for the OP, but.......

T^T



xxblushesxx -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 2:07:40 AM)

Do not talk to your dog? Our dogs have a large "vocabulary" in that they know what we're saying by the words we use. Of course you should talk to your dog.



Rule -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 2:30:21 AM)

Sure. Whenever I am uncertain how to spell a word, I consult with my sister's dog... Shouldn't I spell shouldn't with a double-l, I ask him. He then looks back intelligently and starts to either lick his paw, or to yawn. As I am uncertain which means which, one time I write shouldn't and the other time I write shoulldn't.

Now seriously: dogs may react to a couple of words or verbal expressions, but to them they are merely cues to react to. According to Cesar Milan they are reactive animals that live in the present. What they do comprehend are emotional states and any emotional state that is not both calm and assertive in their perception is out of balance and a weakness.



xxblushesxx -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 3:31:11 AM)

Uh huh. They know certain words. Heck one of our dogs starts barking if we SPELL r-i-d-e. But she's always been precocious.



Termyn8or -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 3:44:21 AM)

FR

Thought I'd mention that TFB talking to her dog would fall on DEAF ears, literally. Any non verbal suggestions ae gold right now. Ther are a million different ways and I sure as hell don't know them all.

T^T



xxblushesxx -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 3:55:19 AM)

I realize that.



Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 7:08:58 AM)

Yup. Crates should be a safe place, their den, their spot away, they should not fear or dislike the crate through human actions.

Crates are a very valuable tool if done right.
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or



NEVER crate as a punishment.





Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 7:22:29 AM)

Tuesday we're going to the mall to pick up my photo's from the portrait studio and then I am talking to Santa maybe.


A family friend of ours gave me her recliner, so we need to clean up and move furniture to get it to fit in here. So we'll be taking all our stuff off the shelves to move them, and off the book case to move it, and then putting it all back on once the furniture is where it belongs next.

Bones will of course be safe through out all this moving, nobody fear!



kalikshama -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 9:59:20 AM)

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You just don't understand dominant. The human MUST be the alpha.


The Dog Whisperer manages this without throwing the dogs. So does Victoria Stilwell of "It's Me or the Dog."

TFTB - these shows are both on Animal Planet and on hulu.com.



Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 10:44:49 AM)

I've heard of it's me or the dog, watched a few eps too. She's usually fixing the problem behaviors humans have allowed to get out of hand. Like one time this ladies dog kept barking at the husband and showing agression any time he came near his wife, or tried to get in bed, and they let him.
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama



The Dog Whisperer manages this without throwing the dogs. So does Victoria Stilwell of "It's Me or the Dog."

TFTB - these shows are both on Animal Planet and on hulu.com.




Termyn8or -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 10:47:22 AM)

Oopsed.



Hillwilliam -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 10:48:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Yup. Crates should be a safe place, their den, their spot away, they should not fear or dislike the crate through human actions.

Crates are a very valuable tool if done right.
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or



NEVER crate as a punishment.




My pup loves his crate. Half the time, if I don't know where he is, I look and he's sound asleep in there.



LafayetteLady -> RE: I GOT APPROVED TO FOSTER AND BONES* a deaf dog&* IS HOME WITH ME NOW! (11/21/2011 4:01:48 PM)

I know blushes. My dogs have always understood what I was saying, so have my cats. Ok, some of my cats ignored what I said, but most listened. There have been other instances where it has been proven that animals DO understand our language as more than just words.

Really, all you have to do is adopt a dog whose previous owners were Spanish to figure out the damn dog didn't speak English (yea, had one of those too).

Also, cats do not have a "natural" aversion to water. I've had more than a couple who liked it, one would try to climb in the tub or shower every time I was in there. I've also had to bathe a cat or two. That is where the animal knowing you are the Alpha comes into play.



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