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farglebargle -> RE: Repubs hold the middle class hostage over a fucking pipeline (12/13/2011 5:05:15 AM)

Fossil Fuels are for losers.




mnottertail -> RE: Repubs hold the middle class hostage over a fucking pipeline (12/13/2011 7:11:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Deep down, I know you wish he had the courage to decide... [:D]

But all he ever does is run away and hide



How did this thread get derailed to the inept, deer in the headlights, lawless goons and thugs, rat-poison republican house?  




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Repubs hold the middle class hostage over a fucking pipeline (12/13/2011 7:26:08 AM)

In any case, the repubs' actions appear to violate NEPA, https://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2011%2F12%2F12%2Fkeystone-xl-state-department_n_1144570.html%3Fref%3Dpolitics%26ir%3DPolitics&h=gAQEy8vOg&refid=20&_ft_a=1577310052&_ft_tf=153218874784785&_ft_tpi=1577310052&_ft_ti=17&_ft_fth=3146d176fd2850e4&_ft_time_ft=1323789768&_ft_mf_objid=153218874784785&cb=5




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Repubs hold the middle class hostage over a fucking pipeline (12/13/2011 7:34:48 AM)

That is actually not the case. There are situations where private companies have been given eminent domain rights. In the 90s, for example, when private companies were laying the fiber optic system, they had the right of eminent domain, I represented a couple of land owners in disputes where the cable had been laid on their land, without their permission. They had no redress except to accept payment. The payment didn't come from the gov., it came from Sprint, as I recall
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

A quick question about the pipeline.

I have heard from those on the right that it won't cost the taxpayers a dime. Tis a good thing but I have a question.

Who will buy the land? Eminent Domain is a governmental privelege.

Exxon or whoever is building the line cannot exercise eminent domain in the event one or more property owners don't want to play ball.
That would be the job of the federal government and that costs a buncha money. It also opens up the nasty fact of a governmental body excercising eminent domain so that a private corporation can make money. I didn't like it when it was done a couple of years ago for a developer and I don't like it for this purpose either.

Would the government be building the line and then leasing it to the oil company? If so, that's a bunch of our tax dollars at work but at least there is a possibility of a profit.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Repubs hold the middle class hostage over a fucking pipeline (12/13/2011 7:58:23 AM)

I'm aware that private companies are given eminent domain rights. I even cited an example. I feel this is wrong. The government should not be allowed to exercise eminent domain in order to line the pockets of politically connected corporations or developers.

Your campaign donations shouldn't be able to kick me out of my house.




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Repubs hold the middle class hostage over a fucking pipeline (12/13/2011 9:58:49 AM)

Sorry, Hill, must not have read carefully enough.

My house is actually part of a corridor that is being considered for construction of a giant powerline.  It is a drag having this hang over my head, and it made the property unsaleable.  One of the many reasons why I am considering just signing the joint over to the bank.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Repubs hold the middle class hostage over a fucking pipeline (12/13/2011 10:53:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Again,

No. He made a veto threat.

The pipeline itself is still in limbo on his account, you should know this because it has been in the news for months and months now, and we have had multiple threads on the subject in these forums

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

He made a decision.. just not one you approve of.
You should be used to that by now



Actually he never used the word "veto", he said reject. He's even voting "present" in his speeches.




mnottertail -> RE: Repubs hold the middle class hostage over a fucking pipeline (12/13/2011 11:08:32 AM)

Well, I hope you two professional embarrassed for America guys get your christmas day off anyway.  

It is not as if what you are doing is relevant.




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