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Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 5:17:30 AM

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Its so quiet around here I can hear a pin drop...

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TSA screenings aren't just for airports anymore

Roving security teams increasingly visit train stations, subways and other mass transit sites to deter terrorism. Critics say it's largely political theater.

Reporting from Charlotte, N.C.— Rick Vetter was rushing to board the Amtrak train in Charlotte, N.C., on a recent Sunday afternoon when a canine officer suddenly blocked the way.

Three federal air marshals in bulletproof vests and two officers trained to spot suspicious behavior watched closely as Seiko, a German shepherd, nosed Vetter's trousers for chemical traces of a bomb. Radiation detectors carried by the marshals scanned the 57-year-old lawyer for concealed nuclear materials.

When Seiko indicated a scent, his handler, Julian Swaringen, asked Vetter whether he had pets at home in Garner, N.C. Two mutts, Vetter replied. "You can go ahead," Swaringen said.

The Transportation Security Administration isn't just in airports anymore. TSA teams are increasingly conducting searches and screenings at train stations, subways, ferry terminals and other mass transit locations around the country.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 5:46:01 AM

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I was more apalled by the woman who had her cupcake confiscated. I'd say most everyone has read it but if you want, I'll find a link.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 6:00:02 AM

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Sooo... takin' a cupcake on a bus could get you life in Gitmo for terroristic acts, if things keep following the current track. No lawyer, no trial, no writ of habeas corpus... just a Koran and a prayer rug, and off you go.

But its all okay because we can blame it on Bush and them evil neoconses

"Lets go break a bank window and see if we can start a riot, I need a new tv".

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 6:02:51 AM

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yeah, this is appalling. it's pretty far down on the list of civil liberties violations gleefully perpetrated by the obama administration that get under this particular leftist's skin, but it's appalling.

by the by, i understand you're probably going for more of a "lieberals wtf omg hypocrites lmao rofl" vibe but if you're actually interested in reading serious and scathing critiques of obama from the left, read greenwald's columns at salon. there ARE a few american liberals who apply the same standards to obama they did to bush, in much the same way there were a few conservatives who applied the same standards to bush they did to clinton.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 6:06:01 AM

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Man, if only George Bush didn't hire all those brand new Federal Employees in the first place, we wouldn't be in this situation.

Now we have to pay their retirement pensions forever...

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 6:08:26 AM

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fuckin adams and the goddamn big gubmint federalists stacking the courts right before he left town, that's when this whole mess REALLY started. we've been fucked ever since then. t-jeff tried to put the kibosh to that noise, but that punchdrunk activist judge john marshall had to step in and really make a pig's breakfast of it all.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 6:13:25 AM

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Absolutely, its all Bushs fault

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Man, if only George Bush didn't hire all those brand new Federal Employees in the first place, we wouldn't be in this situation.

Now we have to pay their retirement pensions forever...

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 6:28:46 AM

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Absolutely, its all Bushs fault

I KNEW IT

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Man, if only George Bush didn't hire all those brand new Federal Employees in the first place, we wouldn't be in this situation.

Now we have to pay their retirement pensions forever...

Well, who started the Department of Homeland Security?

Oh yeah. One of those people who is always preaching "Smaller Government" .

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 6:33:09 AM

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I'm guessing random screenings is an 'austerity' measure to try and protect the US from something like this or this.

Maybe if we hadn't wasted trillions of dollars enriching Haliburton etc. during the last administration we could have real security on all forms of mass transit.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 7:06:13 AM

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Well, who started the Department of Homeland Security?

Oh yeah. One of those people who is always preaching "Smaller Government" .

A President who (it's well worth remembering in this case) did more to increase the scale of government powers and funding than anybody else since Kennedy was shot for pissing away all that money on NASA. Not even Reagan did as much to big up his government's authorities as Mister "Smaller Government" Chimp and his organ grinder did...

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 8:29:21 AM

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It's Bush's fault. And it's Obama's fault.

DHS was created out of the castoffs from other federal agencies. They're not very good. I believe that I first read about railways being a possible terrorist target over a year ago. Not in a classified report, in the media. And it's taken DHS this long to do something about it.

We're not having significant freedoms taken away, just dignities. And in return, we're getting some vague feeling we're safer.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 8:33:11 AM

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This is the reason republicans are rudderless.

There`s no principles to defend,no consistency and no direction to lead.

It`s only about wining and getting power(money/rank).Conduct?That`s last weeks news.Consistency?That`s for pussys.

Accept for most of the anit-abortion republicans......most cons today are a buffet of whatever, anything goes and flip-flop-who-cares.

One quality tho that always seems to be present amongst all republicans, is anger.No matter how good things are or how well off they are,they`re always angry.

The really angry ones, become irrational and despondent when the world does`nt match up to their peanut-brain-POV .

They cry out to world "why aren`t you all acting the way I think you should"?!! You`re a this&that and this&that`s act a certain way!!!!Stop that and act the way a bunch angry,frustrated,intellectually unsophisticated malcontents want you to!!!!!

Maybe they should report us to the thought police.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 8:33:44 AM

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Point in fact,I am dissapointed that this President did not,in a quick and decisive way,roll back some of the excesses of the Bush administration.This has been just one more example that powers once appropriated,in direct contravention of the Constitution,are never easily surrendered.Proof once again that the citizenry of any free society should pay heed to Franklins creed about essential liberties and temporary safety.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 8:36:49 AM

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He did roll them back.

Just not the ones you wanted.

That President Obama is a super-lefty is/was a republican propaganda ploy, that for many outside of the GOP is/was successful.

President Obama is not a lefty.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 8:51:35 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Absolutely, its all Bushs fault

I KNEW IT

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Man, if only George Bush didn't hire all those brand new Federal Employees in the first place, we wouldn't be in this situation.

Now we have to pay their retirement pensions forever...

Well, who started the Department of Homeland Security?

Oh yeah. One of those people who is always preaching "Smaller Government" .

Growth in Federal Payroll (population adjusted) ranking by President:

Johnson
Kennedy
Obama (after 1 year!!!!)
Eisenhower
Reagan
Ford
GWB
GHWB
Nixon
Clinton

Yup, all Bush's fault.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 8:56:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Absolutely, its all Bushs fault

I KNEW IT

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Man, if only George Bush didn't hire all those brand new Federal Employees in the first place, we wouldn't be in this situation.

Now we have to pay their retirement pensions forever...

Well, who started the Department of Homeland Security?

Oh yeah. One of those people who is always preaching "Smaller Government" .

Growth in Federal Payroll (population adjusted) ranking by President:

Johnson
Kennedy
Obama (after 1 year!!!!)
Eisenhower
Reagan
Ford
GWB
GHWB
Nixon
Clinton

Yup, all Bush's fault.

Again, the department homeland security was established by someone who is supposed to be for smaller government.

Got a link for your claim or is it just a claim?

I do find it interesting that you claim the smallest increase in federal payroll was overseen by someone who is supposed to be a tax and spend liberal.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 8:57:31 AM

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We still have some room to move forward (compare to Oxford England):
http://www.dailytech.com/Oxford+Cabs+to+Receive+Cameras+Record+Passengers+by+2015/article23286.htm
"The cameras fitted within the cabs will record all passengers on a daily basis. Both video and audio will be recorded and stored on a CCTV hard drive for 28 days, and the cameras will be placed within black cabs and private-hire vehicles. Taxi drivers licensed for the first time must have the required equipment as well as a panic button installed by April 6, 2012"

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 8:59:42 AM

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[Got a link for your claim or is it just a claim?

I do find it interesting that you claim the smallest increase in federal payroll was overseen by someone who is supposed to be a tax and spend liberal.

Look it up yourself. Lefties ignore links they dont like anyway. And you might recall a lot of Clinton's budget pre-Gingrich budget cutting came on the backs of the military that had to be rebuilt. It was a Republican GOP that did the civilian budget cutting.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 9:03:06 AM

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He did roll them back.

Just not the ones you wanted.

That President Obama is a super-lefty is/was a republican propaganda ploy, that for many outside of the GOP is/was successful.

President Obama is not a lefty.

Sorry Owner ,as long as any portion of the odius Patriot Act remains on the books he hasn't,to my way of thinking,done enough to return the liberties that were missappropriated by the overreaching Bush administration.
Of course he is still leagues in front of any possible Republican pretender for the office....and I never expect to get all that I want from any one President anyway.

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RE: Where are the leftists? - 12/27/2011 9:06:22 AM

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This would be President Obama who continually talked about "redistribution of wealth" (until his handlers told him to STFU). That's the one who is not a leftist?

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