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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:27:20 AM   
LadyHibiscus


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Castlerealm.  Can we find who was responsible for that atrocity and make them read it aloud at some leather bar?

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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:29:03 AM   
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3. SUBMISSIVE'S ATTENDANCE AT FORMAL SOCIAL GATHERINGS.An unescorted submissive is not welcome in most formal social gatherings. If it is necessary for her/him to attend without trainer/dominant, then a protector will be appointed to oversee them during the function. A protector is one who looks after the charge in the absence of trainer or owner. A lone submissive showing up at a formal affair is pretty much like the neighbor's kids or dog showing up at your backyard cookout. It's not usually a welcome event.When a protector has been appointed, the submissive is to show them the same respect as trainer/dominant would receive. The protector is held responsible for the submissive's well-being and safety and also made accountable for any improper behavior from the submissive. It will be this protector that any other dominant must address concerning any wrong-doing on the submissive's part. Tthey are also required to report to the trainer/dominant on the charge's failures/successes.A submissive is permitted to attend informal events without a protector if the trainer has granted this privilege. The standard usually expects the submissive to be in the company of other submissives rather than attend alone.


Wow....what a complete pile of bullshit. I really wish someone would fry Castlerealm's server.

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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:29:13 AM   
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Does castlerealm still even exist?

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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:30:09 AM   
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Nope

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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:31:28 AM   
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Good.

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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:32:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: seababy

3. SUBMISSIVE'S ATTENDANCE AT FORMAL SOCIAL GATHERINGS.An unescorted submissive is not welcome in most formal social gatherings. If it is necessary for her/him to attend without trainer/dominant, then a protector will be appointed to oversee them during the function. A protector is one who looks after the charge in the absence of trainer or owner. A lone submissive showing up at a formal affair is pretty much like the neighbor's kids or dog showing up at your backyard cookout. It's not usually a welcome event.When a protector has been appointed, the submissive is to show them the same respect as trainer/dominant would receive. The protector is held responsible for the submissive's well-being and safety and also made accountable for any improper behavior from the submissive. It will be this protector that any other dominant must address concerning any wrong-doing on the submissive's part. Tthey are also required to report to the trainer/dominant on the charge's failures/successes.A submissive is permitted to attend informal events without a protector if the trainer has granted this privilege. The standard usually expects the submissive to be in the company of other submissives rather than attend alone.


Wow....what a complete pile of bullshit. I really wish someone would fry Castlerealm's server.


The joy of the internet-once the idiocy is out there, it's out there forever.


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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:35:18 AM   
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http://trisoc.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/submissive-etiquette-in-formal-training/

Sadly idiots are still quoting that site.

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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:38:34 AM   
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OMG. No wonder there are so many people in need of reality checks.

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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:39:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

OMG. No wonder there are so many people in need of reality checks.

I like to think of it as a BDSM version of an IQ test-if they believe the shit, they fail :-)


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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:40:15 AM   
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Yeah. Just because a site is no longer around doesnt mean some morons arent touting the same stupidity on another site.

Its rather embarrassing. When I first started reading sites like that, I had a few Dommes who helped me weed out the bs... and there was a lot of bs on that one.

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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:41:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kana

quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

OMG. No wonder there are so many people in need of reality checks.

I like to think of it as a BDSM version of an IQ test-if they believe the shit, they fail :-)




Hey!!! Newbees are like babies. Dont blame them for being taught that shit... blame the idiots who teach it.

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Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:44:07 AM   
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OMG... it is even worse than I thought. While I have not met that particular guy who runs that site, I do know a LOT of his friends who are here in my state.


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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 9:44:30 AM   
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I don't fall into the in particular (as perhaps you can tell from my extensive life skills), but this is an interesting topic so I thought I'd sacrifice some of my considerable celebrity and take a series of unpopular stands on it. After all, what is life without good enemies, right?

Firstly let me make the disclaimer that I do not subscribe to the notion of so-called life skills. If we take the most "successful" (and I place that in quotations since I am using it in the traditional sense, which I do not subscribe to either) people, what will we find in common among them? You equating lifeskills with fame and fame with success. In terms of potential partners who would be making decisions as to how my life develops I would not pick one of these people. I think your reasoning is faulty.

Will we find the ability to cope with pressure? I suspect we will not. Turing was prone to panic attacks, Gaius Octavius could charitably have been described as whiny and cowardly, and Churchill turned to drink when there was so much as a garbage strike.

How about people skills? You know you were thinking it. Kafka couldn't even interact with people he didn't know, Einstein survived socialization solely because he didn't believe in free will, and of course, returning to the time of that most famous of Triumvirates, Ptolemy XIV refused abjectly to speak to anyone if he could help it. We'll call that one off, then.

Financial planning? Trump has been bankrupt 14(?) times. Thomas Jefferson spent 120k on wine in a single term despite already being deep in debt. I could do this all day.

In short, life skills, as a concept, are bullshit.


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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 10:02:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

OMG. No wonder there are so many people in need of reality checks.

I like to think of it as a BDSM version of an IQ test-if they believe the shit, they fail :-)



Hook line and sinker..for at least a couple of weeks. I have alot more stories of my subfrenzy driven stupidity. However I will say this for myself. I never wrote poetry about it. So I think I can still hold my head up high. (relatively)


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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 10:11:05 AM   
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You equating lifeskills with fame and fame with success. In terms of potential partners who would be making decisions as to how my life develops I would not pick one of these people. I think your reasoning is faulty.


Fair enough. Read on, fearless reader. The rest should be all the more applicable, in that case.

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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 10:20:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://trisoc.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/submissive-etiquette-in-formal-training/

Sadly idiots are still quoting that site.
I found several websites that contained many of the articles from Castlerealm.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

I like to think of it as a BDSM version of an IQ test-if they believe the shit, they fail :-)

I did exactly that when I was single. If some "dom" referred me to that site....I would tell them that we most likely weren't compatible. Some people love fluff, I have a low tolerance for it.



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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 10:34:06 AM   
Rule


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ORIGINAL: seababy
What triggered this post -

1. I noticed a Dominant posted on another thread the comment that someone's actions indicated that they were submissive in nature followed by a sentence stating that they had no good sense/conscience at all. Overall my interpretation was "your life is in disorder which is a dead give away submissive trait."
( I may have my interpretation incorrect on this comment as there was a typo in the sentence that made the meaning slightly unclear.)

I was the person who made that post.

Firstly: I am not a dominant. Nor am I the archetypical submissive. I am something other. And in my model of the human mind genuine submissives and dominants are not less than me, but other.
Secondly: My comment was specific for the person addressed, who is - according to my best fit - in a particular part of the submissive spectrum.
Thirdly: My life probably is in a worse state of disorder than his.

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ORIGINAL: seababy
2. My previous experience when I was looking for a Dom; The few that showed interest spoke to me as if I was a special needs child.
This was despite the fact that I had a successful well paid career, was fit, and had an ordered healthy life with loving relationships with family and friends. Some I spoke to had dead end jobs or were unemployed, unfit, and seemed socially isolated. Despite this they had no feelings of disconnect in their confidence to competently take over directing my life as they saw fit.

Many of us, on this website, are special needs people. We seek that which makes us whole.
Whether someone is competent in taking over and directing your life, is for you to decide. Generally, though, the genuine dominants will be affluent and have their lives in order.

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ORIGINAL: seababy
how many Dominants think that a person who identifies as submissive is a submissive because they lack something essential needed to be considered a healthy functional adult?

I do not consider either, if genuine, as complete. Nor am I myself complete. We each lack what one of the others has in abundance.

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ORIGINAL: seababy
Is my experience relatively isolated?

I suspect that it is not.

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ORIGINAL: seababy
Is there a higher percentage of people lacking lifeskills who identify as submissives compared to the general population that lack life skills?

I suspect so. But like squares and rectangles should not always be regarded as the same thing, neither should people who lack lifeskills be confused with submissives.

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ORIGINAL: seababy
Is there just as many Doms without lifeskills and the only difference being that a submissive may be alot more likely to admit it than a dominant personality type?

Doms are likely to lack something other - and not be aware of it. It is quite difficult to become aware of a lack. For example: I was eight years old before I noticed that my siblings perceived the color of a towel differently from me. I passed the color vision test of the military with flying colors. And I was in my thirties when I first definitely became aware that I had some kind of color blindness as yet unknown to science.

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ORIGINAL: seababy
Is this all bollocks and I just managed to interact with the spectacularly clueless?

No, it is not bollocks. Or do you think that any of us on this website is 'normal'?


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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 10:40:54 AM   
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I guess I'm not your typical person on here then because I consider myself extremely normal. I don't see what I do or who I am as being special, special needs, unique or different in any way whatsoever.



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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 10:43:14 AM   
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I guess I'm not your typical person on here then because I consider myself extremely normal. I don't see what I do or who I am as being special, special needs, unique or different in any way whatsoever.




Thank you for that, Littlewonder.  I myself am just folks like everyone else. 

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RE: Submissive personality traits - rescue me from my l... - 1/3/2012 11:07:19 AM   
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That is interesting.

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