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Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 12:43:11 PM   
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Still desperately trying to convince Republican voters that he’s not as disposable as Perry and Bachmann, Rick “Don’t Google My Name” Santorum purports that the evil socialist-in-chief wants kids to go to college only so they can be indoctrinated by liberals. Speaking to a crowd of Floridians at the First Baptist Church of Naples, Santorum said that churches and families were under “assault” by the president and liberals:
“We’ve lost, unfortunately, our entertainment industry,” the candidate explained. “We’ve lost our higher education. That was the first to go a long time ago. It’s no wonder President Obama wants every kid to go to college. The indoctrination that occurs at American universities is one of the keys to the left holding and maintaining power in America — and it is indoctrination.”
On the contrary, while Newt Gingrich was philandering like it was 1999, President Obama has remained devoted to his wife and family. In fact, Obama was so devoted to them that he was accosted by Republicans for having the gall to purchase them Christmas gifts during budget talks. Additionally, President Obama has actually irked many liberals for continuing George W. Bush’s faith-based initiatives. You know, where federal monies are given to hate groups that think the earth is flat and Jesus rode a T-rex. Like I’ve always said: Republicans love underfunding education and ensuring that the majority doesn’t have access to it so that they won’t get smart and realize they are being screwed.

The eventual Republican presidential drop-out continued his overtly religious preaching to the crowd.
“If they taught Judeo-Christian ideology, they would be stripped of every dollar. If they teach radical secular ideology, they get all the government support that they can possibly get. As you know, 62 percent of children who enter college with a faith conviction leave without it. And I bet you there are people in this room who give money to colleges and universities who are undermining the very principles of our country every single day by indoctrinating kids in left-wing ideology. And you continue to give to these colleges and universities. Let me have a suggestion: Stop it!”  “What they say is, look, their values trump your religious values. The government can tell you they’re going to starve you by taking money away, by taking out the charitable deductions. They’re going to weaken you by passing statutes to change the institution of marriage, which will ultimately make what is preached here hate speech and bigotry,” said Santorum
Not to frighten Mr. Frothy with inconvenient facts, but most universities tend to teach college kids to think critically about the byzantine issues of the country and actually expect them to have a keen understanding of the past, unlike Republican presidential candidates. Of course, there exists universities with professors that subscribe to liberal philosophies, just as there exists ones with conservative philosophies. But it should be noted that left-of-center individuals do tend to predominate academia. Progressive minded individuals have this nasty habit of  tolerance toward differing social concepts and firmly believe in reason and science. But the beautiful thing about being an American citizen is being endowed with free will. For example, if a student feels as though his/her professor wants them to cite Mao Zedong’s Little Red Book, they can drop that course. Better yet, if a student is so intellectually uncurious and completely without an elementary desire to learn facts and interesting things about the world around them; so totally without a thirst for differing ideas and vibrant debate on deeply philosophical ideas and assertions and completely unwilling to leave the confines of one-dimensional thinking, then they could always attend Jerry “fallacy” Fallwell’s Liberty University or an equivalent institution that teaches preaches hatred of secular society, science, and deductionism. President Obama  spoke about the importance of college affordability during his annual State of the Union address on Tuesday, but it seems the former Pennsylvania Senator would rather continue his own petty culture wars than arrive at different solutions to making higher learning more accessible.
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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 12:50:53 PM   
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And we should respect people like this exactly WHY????

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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 12:51:33 PM   
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Ignorance is bliss, if you are a republican

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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 12:56:50 PM   
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The Chinese are positively salivating at the chance he would become president.

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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 1:04:51 PM   
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Forget about him.  His initial idea was to score big in Iowa and pick up all the conservatives that didn't like Romney.  His current strategy is to wait for Gingrich to implode, and then pick up all the anti-Romney votes.  The question is whether he's got enough money to last long enough till the meltdown.  I don't think he does.  He can't just continue to survive on 3rd and 4th place finishes.


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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 1:16:30 PM   
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I saw him on CNN last nite,they played a clip where he vowed to compete in Florida.He said he had plenty of money and would be doing a media buy the next day...that interview took place the day after South Carolina....CNN is still awaiting sight of any Santorum ads,they have ,so far,not materialized .
He doesn't have the money to effectually campaign,therefore he can't win there,therefor he can not get the attention and momentum he needs to get more money to compete elsewhere....he is under financed...so he is,in all actuality just a pretender who is getting attention solely from the religious far right.
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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 1:34:37 PM   
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Fine. Let the conservatives stop sending their kids to college then. I'm sure that will ultimately be a winner for them as a group economically.

Unemployment rates are twice as high for those with only a high school education as compared to the college educated. In addition, on average, more education usually translates into higher pay http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2003/oct/wk3/art04.htm (which is why Obama wants to support college education. This is not some insidious liberal idea to turn conservatives liberal. It is designed to reduce unemployment.)

If conservatives feel college is such a detriment to their offspring - then DON'T send them to college. I'm happy for all the liberals to get all the spots in the entering classes at all of the major colleges and universities in the United States. Moderates and liberals still exceed 55% of the country's population. If 45% want to make themselves irrelevant, I say let them. I hope all the conservatives can get behind Santorum on this one

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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 2:01:34 PM   
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Fine. Let the conservatives stop sending their kids to college then. I'm sure that will ultimately be a winner for them as a group economically.

Unemployment rates are twice as high for those with only a high school education as compared to the college educated. In addition, on average, more education usually translates into higher pay http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2003/oct/wk3/art04.htm (which is why Obama wants to support college education. This is not some insidious liberal idea to turn conservatives liberal. It is designed to reduce unemployment.)

If conservatives feel college is such a detriment to their offspring - then DON'T send them to college. I'm happy for all the liberals to get all the spots in the entering classes at all of the major colleges and universities in the United States. Moderates and liberals still exceed 55% of the country's population. If 45% want to make themselves irrelevant, I say let them. I hope all the conservatives can get behind Santorum on this one


I don't know, princess. I'm thinking that 45% of the population being irrelevant doesn't sound like what's in the best interest of our country. United we stand and all that jazz. I really believe in that concept and it frustrates me when there is so much that we could accomplish as a nation if we could just re-learn to compromise. Good, strong leaders have done that.. hell, it's what got us here. There is (when left unsanitized) a lot of colorful language just on these forums between the "sides" and I'm thinking when you had a group of elite guys all together in a room with really strong views they were pretty much the same.

Then they said "Sir, you are wrong!" Now we say "Ignorant fucker, you are wrong!" Their "Sir!" meant ignorant fucker.. don't kid yourself.

Somehow they managed to turn out a pretty amazing document though, despite their strong disagreements, so, it can be done but not by alienating almost half the population and tossing them aside as irrelevent. When things aren't working, go back to basics and begin again, hopefully, wiser.

Besides, didn't we try that once already? As I recall, it didn't work.

Just a different thought.

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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 3:07:17 PM   
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So...."Educated people would never vote for me, so keep them uneducated"?

Convincing.

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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 4:59:12 PM   
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There are too many kids going to college today; more kids at school getting more students loans, which drives tuition up even further. It also devalues the degrees.

A Bachelors Degree used to actually mean something, but now it's worthless - it means nothing because every idiot in the country has one now. I feel sorry for those poor saps that were duped by the educational establishment to go into massive debt for that worthless degree. A Bachelors Degree today from 'Bumble-Fuck University' is the equivalent of a High School Diploma back in the 1950's. A Bachelors Degree used to be something to be proud of... no longer, it's expected that you have one; just like a High School Diploma used to be. This scenario is somewhat similar to the Prisoners Dilemma.

Compound that with the fact that getting a degree in the social sciences today is just ensuring that you graduate even more intellectually confused regarding your subject of study. The fields of study should be re-named: Anthropology and Sociology to Cultural Marxism; History to Historical Dialectical Materialism; and Economics to Neo-Synthesis Saltwater Keynesianism.

Being "more educated" simply means that you're a Cultural Marxist in the social sphere and a Keynesian in the economic sphere.


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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 5:21:02 PM   
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Great news for our global competitors who are beating us in the education race.

Good to know we have folks who want us to lose that race.

If your "theory/brain-fart" is any example of how schools are failing today,maybe you have a point.

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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 5:28:50 PM   
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You folks do realize that for a whole lotta kids, the path to their own pursuit of Happiness, does not lie behind the walls of ivy covered halls?

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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 5:35:39 PM   
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Yeah.....so?

That`s not what Rick is getting at...............is it?

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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 6:22:30 PM   
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There are too many kids going to college today; more kids at school getting more students loans, which drives tuition up even further. It also devalues the degrees.

A Bachelors Degree used to actually mean something, but now it's worthless - it means nothing because every idiot in the country has one now. I feel sorry for those poor saps that were duped by the educational establishment to go into massive debt for that worthless degree. A Bachelors Degree today from 'Bumble-Fuck University' is the equivalent of a High School Diploma back in the 1950's. A Bachelors Degree used to be something to be proud of... no longer, it's expected that you have one; just like a High School Diploma used to be. This scenario is somewhat similar to the Prisoners Dilemma.

Compound that with the fact that getting a degree in the social sciences today is just ensuring that you graduate even more intellectually confused regarding your subject of study. The fields of study should be re-named: Anthropology and Sociology to Cultural Marxism; History to Historical Dialectical Materialism; and Economics to Neo-Synthesis Saltwater Keynesianism.

Being "more educated" simply means that you're a Cultural Marxist in the social sphere and a Keynesian in the economic sphere.



Chemistry, Biology and Physics? What would you change the name of that to?

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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 6:36:22 PM   
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There are too many kids going to college today; more kids at school getting more students loans, which drives tuition up even further. It also devalues the degrees.

A Bachelors Degree used to actually mean something, but now it's worthless - it means nothing because every idiot in the country has one now. I feel sorry for those poor saps that were duped by the educational establishment to go into massive debt for that worthless degree. A Bachelors Degree today from 'Bumble-Fuck University' is the equivalent of a High School Diploma back in the 1950's. A Bachelors Degree used to be something to be proud of... no longer, it's expected that you have one; just like a High School Diploma used to be. This scenario is somewhat similar to the Prisoners Dilemma.

Compound that with the fact that getting a degree in the social sciences today is just ensuring that you graduate even more intellectually confused regarding your subject of study. The fields of study should be re-named: Anthropology and Sociology to Cultural Marxism; History to Historical Dialectical Materialism; and Economics to Neo-Synthesis Saltwater Keynesianism.

Being "more educated" simply means that you're a Cultural Marxist in the social sphere and a Keynesian in the economic sphere.


Chemistry, Biology and Physics? What would you change the name of that to?


The Natural Sciences have been mostly spared from the violence that the Social Sciences have suffered from, at least much more so. The problem today with the Natural Sciences and its relation with education/academia is largely a social phenomenon (affirmative action, mandates, quotas, etc). Broadly speaking, there is no accepted epistemological relativism within the Natural Sciences, so it's much more difficult to deviate from "truth" so to speak.

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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 6:39:49 PM   
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Ignorance is bliss, if you are a republican
I think you made a mistake there, I think you meant to say: Ignorance is essential to be a Republican.


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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 6:46:03 PM   
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Unemployment rates are twice as high for those with only a high school education as compared to the college educated.
You know, I think this could work out alright. Let me explain.
A) Republicans don't send there kids to college
B) Many of those kids end up unemployed
C) Those unemployed kids turn to welfare to get by
D) They realize that welfare is not some cushy gravy train, but an essential program
E) They change their basic viewpoint and become....LIBERALS!!!!

See, a win-win.


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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/26/2012 7:23:51 PM   
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Unemployment rates are twice as high for those with only a high school education as compared to the college educated.
You know, I think this could work out alright. Let me explain.
A) Republicans don't send there kids to college
B) Many of those kids end up unemployed
C) Those unemployed kids turn to welfare to get by
D) They realize that welfare is not some cushy gravy train, but an essential program
E) They change their basic viewpoint and become....LIBERALS!!!!

See, a win-win.
I agreed with you up to a point, but lack of a college degree for a religiously home schooled kid means that if he/she loses out on a job to a college graduate, they will just whine that they are being discriminated against because of their religious faith and are victims of a secularist, liberal atheist conspiracy.

Many conservatives have a sense of entitlement that would make Ghandi look like a selfish bastard.

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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/27/2012 9:56:54 AM   
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I don't know, princess. I'm thinking that 45% of the population being irrelevant doesn't sound like what's in the best interest of our country. United we stand and all that jazz. I really believe in that concept and it frustrates me when there is so much that we could accomplish as a nation if we could just re-learn to compromise.


My post was somewhat (though not entirely) tongue-in-cheek. I understand we cannot ignore 45% of the population or have 45% not part of the dialogue. My point was simply that Obama's policy statement about college was intended to be helpful to people, and that I find it quite amusing that the conservatives would choose to even attack that.

We are, for better or worse, all in the same scull. Getting the scull to move forward requires everyone rowing together - compromise, coordination, etc. Otherwise we just sit in the water.


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RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college - 1/27/2012 9:58:34 AM   
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Unemployment rates are twice as high for those with only a high school education as compared to the college educated.
You know, I think this could work out alright. Let me explain.
A) Republicans don't send there kids to college
B) Many of those kids end up unemployed
C) Those unemployed kids turn to welfare to get by
D) They realize that welfare is not some cushy gravy train, but an essential program
E) They change their basic viewpoint and become....LIBERALS!!!!

See, a win-win.



I'm glad someone understood my sense of humor.


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