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chatterbox24 -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 1:49:12 PM)

Beautifully brokn,

Girl I think thats just beautiful! Thats how I believe it should be too. Not saying its the only way to be, but I think what you wrote rocks.




Awareness -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 1:55:17 PM)

Yeah, thanks for sharing.  I'll call you when I give a shit about what you think.




chatterbox24 -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 1:57:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

Yeah, thanks for sharing.  I'll call you when I give a shit about what you think.



I think I am falling in love with you, will you be my therapist Awareness? [8|]




Awareness -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 1:58:59 PM)

No.  I don't help fictional characters with their emotional problems.




chatterbox24 -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 2:07:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

No.  I don't help fictional characters with their emotional problems.


Well crap, my heart is broken! WHy does everyone think I am fake?? This is hysterical. Maybe Im so real you cant believe it. Im true blue, I guessd people cant handle it.




kalikshama -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 2:46:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

Yeah, thanks for sharing.  I'll call you when I give a shit about what you think.


For the record, here's another newb female post where the OP is catching flack, disproving your theory that we are only mean to the menz.




kalikshama -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 2:54:15 PM)

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(If this post was by a male dominant, everyone would be saying "put it in your journa" and flipping out. Just sayin...)


It IS in her journal.




kalikshama -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 3:01:33 PM)

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I don't like seeing people who are just like 'Looking for a Dom/sub relationship, sex, sex and sex.' 'Hey lets cam together so you can show me everything, then I'm going to forget about you.' 'Wanna hook up this weekend?'


BB,

When a person creates a screen name such as licknuallnight, that's a pretty good indicator that he's just in it for the sex. With your anti-hookup philosophy, I'm surprised to find this on your friends list.

My experience has been that there are about the same amount of guys looking to hookup here as on vanilla sites such as okcupid, but the married cheaters here are more up front about it.

Welcome, and don't let the snark fest scare you off. Although your title does say "My way of seeing it" people tend to overreact to anything that smacks of One-True-Way-ism.

KK




kdsub -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 3:15:45 PM)

But…what is the difference between a BDSM relationship and a vanilla one? Both entail all the protector…mentor…and the rest you listed…But one does not usually entail bondage and discipline…dominance and submission and sadism and masochism which are most often associated with sexual excitement of one party or the other…and is the reason for the play.

So what I am saying is if there is no want or need for a vanilla like relationship then there is nothing wrong with describing BDSM as about sex.

Just an opposing opinion.

Butch




Iamsemisweet -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 3:21:03 PM)

For what it is worth, I don't think you are fake.  Bat shit crazy, but not fake.
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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24


quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

No.  I don't help fictional characters with their emotional problems.


Well crap, my heart is broken! WHy does everyone think I am fake?? This is hysterical. Maybe Im so real you cant believe it. Im true blue, I guessd people cant handle it.




chatterbox24 -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 3:39:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

For what it is worth, I don't think you are fake.  Bat shit crazy, but not fake.
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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

No.  I don't help fictional characters with their emotional problems.


[sm=2cents.gif] STALKER

Well crap, my heart is broken! WHy does everyone think I am fake?? This is hysterical. Maybe Im so real you cant believe it. Im true blue, I guessd people cant handle it.






crazyml -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 4:01:46 PM)

Hello there BB,

Thanks for posting your perspective.

I think you'll find pretty broad agreement (but not necessarily universal agreement) that the BDSM lifestyle being about more than just sex.

Personally, I've a preference for subs that don't require someone who is a protector, mentor, parent-like, therapist, or a teacher, but that doesn't mean for a second that I think that your preferences are wrong or invalid - They're just not a match with me.

Given the clarity with which you've expressed your point of view, I'm pretty sure you'll spot the right partner when you see that person - Even if you have to encounter a lot of shit heads along the way.

Having said that, and having looked at your pics, if you do ever find yourself hankering after some meaningless, shallow, nasty cam-sex. Please feel free to drop me a line - As a special gift to you, I'd be willing to disregard my principles.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 4:05:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BeautifullyBrokn

For me, BDSM lifestyle is not just about sex.
 

 
For me, this is not a "lifestyle" anymore than anyone else's coupling is a "lifestyle".
 
As to said coupling/relationship/dynamic/whatever being not just about "sex"?!!  For me (and you, obviously), as well as many others, it's not.  HOWEVER, for a good many, they're NOT seeking a "relationship", and are simply seeking some kinky sex.  Not my personal cup of tea, but hey... to each their own.
 
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So many times I see or hear about this lifestyle being all about the sex. Having a Dom and submissive relationship requires a lot of things. Patience, trust, time, care, love, honesty, learning, teaching, finding likes/dislikes. I don't like seeing people who are just like 'Looking for a Dom/sub relationship, sex, sex and sex.' 'Hey lets cam together so you can show me everything, then I'm going to forget about you.' 'Wanna hook up this weekend?'



Respectfully, you just described ANY "relationship", be it of the 'nilla, BDSM-based, or whatever.  Some folks prefer a "relationship", where others just wanna bump-uglies.  Again, to each their own.
 
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Most people look at the BDSM lifestyle as just a kinkier sex. Bondage, maybe some spanks here or there then lots of sex. It's sad when that is the first thing people think of when told about the BDSM lifestyle and having a Dom/sub.



Sure, I'd agree most "outsiders" view it that way, as do many BDSMers... others view it as a "sickness" of sorts, others view it as the only dynamic that works for them, and still others are indifferent.  So we're back to different strokes for different folks.

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No, a Dom/Domme is a protector, mentor, parent-like, therapist, teacher. They care about their sub, about their subs feelings, their day, their problems. Patience when teaching or learning about their sub. They take the sub past what they think they're capable of, and works with them to achieve greater things. They help the sub work through their insecurities, doubts, things that the sub wishes he/she could get over. They are, Master. Mistress. Dom. Domme. Daddy. Mommy. Sir. Miss.



Sure, some view the Power Dynamic in this manner, where others don't -- i.e., back to the different strokes for different folks thing.

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It's a relationship, not a booty call.



To those who are NOT seeking a "relationship", it's little more than gettin' jiggy with it.  Again, not everyone is seeking/desires a "relationship".

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Submissives accept their place in this relationship. The learner, the one who cares for the Dom/Domme, has trust in them, trust that the Dom/Domme will mold them the way they think is right and the way they want. They have faith the relationship works, struggle through things they didn't think they could get through and works through it, someone who works hard, works through the pain and someone who has patience to learn. Trust and patience is a really big key here for a submissive. They are putting their mind, body and soul into someones else's hands.



For those of the M/s ilk, sure (and even some within the D/s ilk), but again... not everyone is seeking a Total Power Exchange (TPE) dynamic, which I believe is what you're alluding to.  Personally, I don't do "D/s"... for me, "M/s" is what works best.  Others are different.

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The submissive (possibly talking about the beginning and start of the relationship) shouldn't be waiting and anxious for the sex. The submissive should be anxious about the collar that he/she will be receiving from their Dom/Domme.



Honestly, I don't agree with the underlined part.  To draw a parallel, what you've written in the vanilla world would translate to, "The girlfriend shouldn't be anxious for sex... she should be anxious about the ENGAGEMENT RING that she will be receiving from her boyfriend."  Do you now see the flaw in the statement?!!  Nobody "should be anxious" about anything... and the RIGHT relationship (if that's what one is looking for) is generally FREE of anxiety.  The focus is on COMPATIBILITY, not on some symbol (which is merely a physical representation for what's already present) -- be it a ring, or a collar.  Make sense?!!  I hope so.

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Receiving the collar. That's the greatest moment in a Dom/sub relationship. Not the sex. (even thought that's a nice part to it as well :P)

You B/both walk this journey together.



I'd disagree... as I view it, the "greatest moment" is FINDING THE PERSON YOU WISH TO SPEND YOUR LIFE WITH, and then BEGINNING said "journey together", regardless of whether it's a vanilla or BDSM-based dynamic.  Again, both the ring and the collar are merely symbols for what should already be present. 

Moreover, I maintain the RING means MORE than the collar for the simple reason that the RING is LEGALLY BINDING, where the collar is not.


quote:


That's my opinion



Ditto. [:D]





BeautifullyBrokn -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 4:25:38 PM)

I agree with some things posted here.

But I guess I should've put "MY OPINION" it big bold letters and I guess the "My way of seeing it.." didn't matter.

And I'm terribly sorry to all of those that I begged and dragged to your own computers, made you click on this post, tied you to the chair and made you read it. -.- (sarcasm, if those of you with your panties all in a bunch didn't catch that.) ;D

Once again, my way of seeing this. MY OPINION.

Take care. ^^
[sm=cute.gif]
Layla. <3




Epytropos -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 4:37:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BeautifullyBrokn

For me, BDSM lifestyle is not just about sex. So many times I see or hear about this lifestyle being all about the sex. Having a Dom and submissive relationship requires a lot of things. Patience, trust, time, care, love, honesty, learning, teaching, finding likes/dislikes. I don't like seeing people who are just like 'Looking for a Dom/sub relationship, sex, sex and sex.' 'Hey lets cam together so you can show me everything, then I'm going to forget about you.' 'Wanna hook up this weekend?'


Most people look at the BDSM lifestyle as just a kinkier sex. Bondage, maybe some spanks here or there then lots of sex. It's sad when that is the first thing people think of when told about the BDSM lifestyle and having a Dom/sub.


No, a Dom/Domme is a protector, mentor, parent-like, therapist, teacher. They care about their sub, about their subs feelings, their day, their problems. Patience when teaching or learning about their sub. They take the sub past what they think they're capable of, and works with them to achieve greater things. They help the sub work through their insecurities, doubts, things that the sub wishes he/she could get over. They are, Master. Mistress. Dom. Domme. Daddy. Mommy. Sir. Miss.

It's a relationship, not a booty call.


Submissives accept their place in this relationship. The learner, the one who cares for the Dom/Domme, has trust in them, trust that the Dom/Domme will mold them the way they think is right and the way they want. They have faith the relationship works, struggle through things they didn't think they could get through and works through it, someone who works hard, works through the pain and someone who has patience to learn. Trust and patience is a really big key here for a submissive. They are putting their mind, body and soul into someones else's hands.


The submissive (possibly talking about the beginning and start of the relationship) shouldn't be waiting and anxious for the sex. The submissive should be anxious about the collar that he/she will be receiving from their Dom/Domme.


Receiving the collar. That's the greatest moment in a Dom/sub relationship. Not the sex. (even thought that's a nice part to it as well :P)

You B/both walk this journey together.

That's my opinion.. I guess I was frustrated enough to post about it. :P

[sm=cute.gif]
Layla, <3 (please don't mind the grammar and spelling mistakes. I'm not here for that, I'm here to post my opinion. Thanksss.)



Seems to go without saying in my view, assuming there's a relationship.




Fornica -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 4:43:02 PM)

Or lickalot69? [sm=dunno.gif]
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama



When a person creates a screen name such as licknuallnight, that's a pretty good indicator that he's just in it for the sex. With your anti-hookup philosophy, I'm surprised to find this on your friends list.







OsideGirl -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 5:26:43 PM)

or Lookin4ASlut?




NocturnalStalker -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 5:31:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BeautifullyBrokn

I agree with some things posted here.

But I guess I should've put "MY OPINION" it big bold letters and I guess the "My way of seeing it.." didn't matter.

And I'm terribly sorry to all of those that I begged and dragged to your own computers, made you click on this post, tied you to the chair and made you read it. -.- (sarcasm, if those of you with your panties all in a bunch didn't catch that.) ;D

Once again, my way of seeing this. MY OPINION.

Take care. ^^
[sm=cute.gif]
Layla. <3



In my opinion your opinion sucks.




lizi -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 5:42:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BeautifullyBrokn

I agree with some things posted here.

But I guess I should've put "MY OPINION" it big bold letters and I guess the "My way of seeing it.." didn't matter.

And I'm terribly sorry to all of those that I begged and dragged to your own computers, made you click on this post, tied you to the chair and made you read it. -.- (sarcasm, if those of you with your panties all in a bunch didn't catch that.) ;D

Once again, my way of seeing this. MY OPINION.

Take care. ^^
[sm=cute.gif]
Layla. <3



That's nice. You've been applauded for your opinion by many who feel it was wonderful and who felt the same way. You were told by others that they didn't agree. I guess everyone has their own opinion about your opinion - after all this is a forum, for conversing on topics and all that. People are conversing about what the OP means in their world. It doesn't all have to match. I didn't see the opposing viewpoints as snarking or being mean, just people saying about how it did or didn't match what their own views were.




Iamsemisweet -> RE: My way of seeing it... (1/27/2012 5:44:56 PM)

Actually, there was some snark.  Awareness made a pretty nasty comment, predictably.  I am assuming that is that the OP is referring to, not the people who stated a differing point of view.
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ORIGINAL: lizi

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ORIGINAL: BeautifullyBrokn




That's nice. You've been applauded for your opinion by many who feel it was wonderful and who felt the same way. You were told by others that they didn't agree. I guess everyone has their own opinion about your opinion - after all this is a forum, for conversing on topics and all that. People are conversing about what the OP means in their world. It doesn't all have to match. I didn't see the opposing viewpoints as snarking or being mean, just people saying about how it did or didn't match what their own views were.





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