RE: ProDoms are fake?

RE: ProDoms are fake? (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Polls and Other Random Stupidity

Message

LadyHibiscus -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/28/2012 9:42:22 PM)
You've already read every answer he produces on the topic, MIP. Trust me.

LadyPact -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/28/2012 10:09:20 PM)
I didn't want to join this one for the first few pages because it just wasn't worth the effort. Now that it's got some detail to it, there's more reason to have a few words. When someone uses the term ProDom, I tend to relate to it in the proper sense of someone who does sessions in the flesh for a fee. I really do separate this in My mind from those who are labeled findoms. It's also very important for Me to mention that when I use the abbreviation "pro" that is exactly what I mean. It's short for professional and I happen to take that term rather literally. On that basis, I would contend that a well educated person in various types of play, who has invested the time to learn how to be a safe practitioner, and turning a profit in doing so does qualify as a professional, and therefore, not fake. I happen to know a number of pros that absolutely fit that description. They are well known in the community and have given back to the community in various ways. That might be giving presentations for education, assisting in community events, and even contributing funds for certain projects. Beyond a doubt, some of the best in their field, and they are darn good at it. A person would have a challenge finding a top of better quality. Pros do fit certain areas that most don't consider. The person who doesn't know if a scene would be something they enjoy is a perfect example. There isn't always an opportunity for a male to try different activities out if he doesn't know a kinky friend. Some males don't want a relationship and just want a dose of kink now and again. Others can't find a compatible partner because there really aren't as many Dominant women who are also sadistic as some would like to believe. There are some not so nice reasons as well that have everything to do with clients not being good partnership material. Even something as simple as a person's travel schedule related to business can make it more convenient to hire a pro to get your pain fix. All of these situations exist and that's why pros exist.

Ishtarr -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/28/2012 10:24:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness Every time I see a ProDomme claim they're just providing a service, I roll my eyes at the charade. Basically, the reason they don't talk about it, is because deep down they know exactly what they're doing. And if they have a shred of decency, part of them is ashamed. So do you have less issues with the ones who are open about the fact that they're just in it for the money? Or do you consider it a despicable profession regardless? Is it the hypocrisy that's you look down on, or the fact that they take money from guys for kink?

mummyman321 -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/28/2012 10:27:00 PM)
Having fostered 2 dungeons I can honestly say I have known several ProDom who were the very real thing. In particular the first ProDom I met was heavily into latex. She loved her passion for latex and made sure her clients were well taken care of. This include pre-interview with the client which sometime lasted up to 45 minutes. It also included a post interview with client lasting as long as needed to make sure the client was fully recovered. I still have copies of the magazine that she advertiesed in, DDI, for those that remember that. ProDom's are not fake by any means. Now that does not mean there are thousands of people out there trying to get your money for nothing. Caveat emptor, let the buyer beware. Just as in shopping for anything else, you need to look closely to make sure you are getting what you are paying for.

TheKingofHell -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 2:17:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Yes, Pro Dommes are fake as hell. I don't know how many times it has happened out here that fine upstanding cocks of young men have come out here, and related to us a story that invariably proceeds along these lines: I was camming for a pro mistress, and she made me put on my short bob/spongebob panties, and tie myself up and insert a 3 foot 2x4 sized purple silicone strapon without grease into my virgin asshole, of course, I was spent, but no, she made me kneel with my head up and throat wide open, my one last act of humiliation, (and although she could not actually void into my mouth, she did run into her bathroom and I distinctly heard several flushes from her toilet, and so wishing I could be there...) after which, I sent her a thousand dollars thru paypal, and the fuckin bitch didnt even cash it. I felt so cheap. Oh, that story is a common one, its a cold cruel world out there kids..... When you think about it that is very true ironically though aren't they paying to be taken advantage of I've seen many a profile where said girl says "I will use you drain you dry and toss you aside at a moments notice." Can't say that they aren't getting their money's worth lol.

xxblushesxx -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 5:09:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness . Someone who has a URL in their signature is probably trolling for new clients most of the time. I've been here for six years. I've been running my business for three years. I just put the signature in this month. You're wrong.

Ishtarr -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 5:22:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx I just put the signature in this month. Not saying Awerness is correct about your motives, but you didn't put your signature in this month. It's been up at the very least since the beginning of December (I don't know if it's been up even longer than that), when the blog it links to prompted me to ask you several questions about your line of work.

xxblushesxx -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 5:24:50 AM)
Ok. You could be right. I was trying to guesstimate. I didn't actually mark it on my calendar, but I did know it had not been on long at all.

thishereboi -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 5:37:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jj292 quote: ORIGINAL: njlauren xxblush- Prob not, but in discussions like these I am not necessarily trying to change a poster's mind, but rather it is to give my opinion that may or may not help someone else. I heard a lot of crap about pro dommes when I was in the so called 'serious bd/sm' scene (that often, quite frankly, took itself so seriously it made me cringe, acted like PTA members or something), about how they weren't real, etc, and I guess having been in that world as a client and knowing some pretty damn cool, caring people who gave a lot of themselves to their clients and what they offered, I wanted to strike a blow on their behalf, too:) Ultimately, the problem has to do with money. When you bring something down to the level of money, it begins to look dirty. Just like a politician that runs for public office....if he's rich, he looks dirty. If he's not rich, he comes off looking normal, cleaner, and more pure. A woman who has sex because she's in love is a beautiful thing. A woman who has sex because the guy is paying her looks very dirty. There is a huge difference here. Money makes things look dirty. Pro-doms bring the BDSM interaction down to the level of money. They appear dirty, greedy, and cold. They start to resemble gold-diggers (and some of them are). So that is where most of the negativity is originating from. Thanks for clearing that up. I never looked at it that way before. So tell me. When I go to get my hair cut and tell them I don't think they should charge me because that would make it "dirty" Do you think they will buy it? What about the guy at my 7-11, when I tell him it's dirty to charge me for my coffee, do you think he will give it to me for free? According to your logic, everything should be free?

Ninebelowzero -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 5:52:03 AM)
So how much does an average Dommes gear cost? Hows it get paid for? Last corset I bought for someone it was close to £250. Boots aint cheap, a pair of cuban silk stockings £30 A purpose built play space £5k Mmmmm damn these pro's are mercenary bitches. For the less irony focussed on here that was not dissing pro's in fact the opposite.

Ishtarr -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 5:53:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx I didn't actually mark it on my calendar I'd have been just slightly disturbed if you did...

Ishtarr -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 5:54:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero So how much does an average Dommes gear cost? Hows it get paid for? Last corset I bought for someone it was close to £250. Boots aint cheap, a pair of cuban silk stockings £30 A purpose built play space £5k Mmmmm damn these pro's are mercenary bitches. For the less irony focussed on here that was not dissing pro's in fact the opposite. See that's why I've been considering going pro just long enough to fund a well stocked playroom. Buying toys as a tax deductible just seems so tempting... [:D]

Ninebelowzero -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 6:00:51 AM)
Mmmmmmmmmm interesting, any market for pro subs? quote: ORIGINAL: Ishtarr quote: ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero So how much does an average Dommes gear cost? Hows it get paid for? Last corset I bought for someone it was close to £250. Boots aint cheap, a pair of cuban silk stockings £30 A purpose built play space £5k Mmmmm damn these pro's are mercenary bitches. For the less irony focussed on here that was not dissing pro's in fact the opposite. See that's why I've been considering going pro just long enough to fund a well stocked playroom. Buying toys as a tax deductible just seems so tempting... [:D]

Ninebelowzero -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 6:04:09 AM)
Actually I think much of the hate towards the pro community is that they can't afford it. Self hate/frustration projected onto the pro's because they can't find a lifestyle either. quote: ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain Awareness, thank you for the answer. I thought that this was a money issue for you and it seems I was right. The root of all evil or something like that. And I still think you are wanting the world to change. I am not being nasty at all when I wish you luck with that. As for the other things. Yes, I am being paid to not do what I want. Think of it like the old hooker joke...A man doesn't pay a hooker for sex. He pays her to leave after the sex. Pro domming(in my opinion) is much the same. No one is paying me to do something that makes me happy(though on many levels it does) They are paying me to make them happy then leave. And yes I am aware that I just compared being a pro dom to being a hooker. To be honest I don't see why people get so upset about it. In the other thread I compared being a mechanic to being a hooker. The simple and truthful fact is we all trade things for money, for comfort, for a bunch of shallow reasons. If you are above such activity I feel good for you, but I don't see the world changing do to your opinion. oh and as to that whole gigolo thing(thank you for bringing that up because I think there is a male female double standard going on in much of this) A gigolo doesn't get paid for not treating his female friend like a cum bucket. He is being paid for not reminding her that she is older than his mother. For not pointing out the wrinkles. For saying she looks lovely and that she reminds him of a spring breeze across a lake at the mountains. Do you hate gigolos too? Do you feel sorry for the wealthy women that pay them? Again about the last part. The part you said you didn't think about. What you originally said " A ProDomme never forgets that every post has the potential to suck in more clients" I'm sorry but you are wrong, and I have pointed out why you are wrong. I don't think about it so not "all" do. And as for having url in a name...don't we all have those once we have made a profile?

xxblushesxx -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 6:09:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ishtarr quote: ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero So how much does an average Dommes gear cost? Hows it get paid for? Last corset I bought for someone it was close to £250. Boots aint cheap, a pair of cuban silk stockings £30 A purpose built play space £5k Mmmmm damn these pro's are mercenary bitches. For the less irony focussed on here that was not dissing pro's in fact the opposite. See that's why I've been considering going pro just long enough to fund a well stocked playroom. Buying toys as a tax deductible just seems so tempting... [:D] You have to keep in mind the "housewife rule". If it's something a housewife might buy for herself (mani, pedi, boobs, lol, sex toys) then the IRS won't let you write it off. It's possible if it's something really extreme that the average woman wouldn't buy and it's obvious it's because the person is an entertainer (like 38 triple g boobs, or ten fucking machines) they may allow it.

xxblushesxx -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 6:12:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero Mmmmmmmmmm interesting, any market for pro subs? There was a lovely young lady who used to post here who was a pro-sub. (what ever happened to her?) I'd say the market for male pro-subs would be like the market for male phone sex operators; the demand is not great, and if you are going to do it, you'll be doing it for men and not women.

MissImmortalPain -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 6:13:27 AM)
9 you are a ray of sunshine but I am a great deal more cynical than that. I believe a large part of this comes from a hate men foster over the fact that they know they couldn't get some women to spit on them if they were on fire without paying them to do it. It's why Awareness's thoughts about becoming a better person don't work. He seems to believe it is the fault of the pro for giving him what he wants without demanding he be a better person. The truth is it is not the job of every person to make every other person better. It is personal and if someone wants to do things the easy way there will always be someone willing to get paid for it. In this case it is just more annoying to the male ego because it is women cashing in on a male weakness....poor babies...some of them can't deal with things when it is a woman on top and not them.

Ishtarr -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 6:15:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx You have to keep in mind the "housewife rule". If it's something a housewife might buy for herself (mani, pedi, boobs, lol, sex toys) then the IRS won't let you write it off. It's possible if it's something really extreme that the average woman wouldn't buy and it's obvious it's because the person is an entertainer (like 38 triple g boobs, or ten fucking machines) they may allow it. So would individual toys and furniture in large quantities work? I have a wish list about 50 items long from http://www.jacksfloggers.co.uk/ would buying them all at once qualify as something "the average woman" wouldn't buy? My husband is a computer engineer, and he gets to write off his computer. I'm a housewife, and I buy computers for myself (that my husband writes off for work... oops...). So it would only seem that a pro-Domme should be allowed to write off stocking up an entire playroom, cause it's a clear business expense. If not. I'll just get some cattle and write the bullwhips off that way. [:D]

xxblushesxx -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 6:18:52 AM)
That's a tough one to answer. The lady who could answer it for you with authority is the Tax Domme. She's very good and happily answers questions like yours.

Ishtarr -> RE: ProDoms are fake? (1/29/2012 6:21:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx That's a tough one to answer. The lady who could answer it for you with authority is the Tax Domme. She's very good and happily answers questions like yours. Awesome. Thanks.

Page: << < prev 5 6 [7] 8 9 next > >>

Collarchat.com © 2025

Terms of Service

0.0625