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Because being a good person, being peaceful, being non-violent, These are all very nice things, and nice things never change the world. Never in a way that matters anyway.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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yes, but I also never said I was a good person, I am in fact, not good people, nor am I pro-choice, or pro-life. I am also not afraid to hate, to be petty, to be cruel, or any of the other things even I associate with being bad people, do you know why? Because being a good person, being peaceful, being non-violent, These are all very nice things, and nice things never change the world. Never in a way that matters anyway.

No one said you had to be nice. But there is no reason to be hateful. You want to land blast someone because they hold a different point of view than you do? You must go around being a very angry man most of the time.

When the gold colored mails hit, dont be surprised.

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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Because being a good person, being peaceful, being non-violent, These are all very nice things, and nice things never change the world. Never in a way that matters anyway.

Gandhi didn't change the world?

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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Because being a good person, being peaceful, being non-violent, These are all very nice things, and nice things never change the world. Never in a way that matters anyway.

Gandhi didn't change the world?

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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Because being a good person, being peaceful, being non-violent, These are all very nice things, and nice things never change the world. Never in a way that matters anyway.

Gandhi didn't change the world?

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they opened fire with the baby murderer speak first lady, if I get mail for this and they don't, then we can safely judge that the admins have no idea what they're doing. Is it worse to say someone is ignorant, or to say someone murders children?

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they opened fire with the baby murderer speak first lady, if I get mail for this and they don't, then we can safely judge that the admins have no idea what they're doing. Is it worse to say someone is ignorant, or to say someone murders children?

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he did, he made an entire generation of americans too weak to actually fight for what they believe in.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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he did, he made an entire generation of americans too weak to actually fight for what they believe in.

Damn, you mean the civil rights movement didnt happen?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Do you honestly believe attacking their morality will change anyone's positions? Attacking their religious beliefs only serves to stir up a hornets nest. This type of dicussion is best when it remains science based concerning the fetal growth and development.

Attacking what cannot be proven either way only starts a flame war.

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I'm saying that the ultimate cost of conducting ourselves peacefully and placidly like so many sacred cows will be our freedom, that the occupy movement has been set up and is losing momentum by the day because it embraced his ideals,

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Peace has it's time and place, now is not that time, here is not that place.

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if I get mail for this and they don't, then we can safely judge that the admins have no idea what they're doing.

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Do you honestly believe attacking their morality will change anyone's positions? Attacking their religious beliefs only serves to stir up a hornets nest. This type of dicussion is best when it remains science based concerning the fetal growth and development.

Attacking what cannot be proven either way only starts a flame war.

Well, given that their whole "Women who get abortions are whores and if they die, it's just punishment for their sins" is PREDICATED on crazy extremist religious beliefs, it's pointless to confront the outcome of those beliefs without resolving the root-cause.

Their whole problem is in their mind, women aren't people. At BEST they're breeding livestock. And the idea that their livestock have RIGHTS is so alien to them, it makes their brain explode.

That's why their waging this war on woman's health care. Planned Parenthood is just the first, because they are the leader in providing woman's healthcare in this nation. But does anyone think that once the crazy religious extremists purge the world of Planned Parenthood, they won't continue their Jihad?

They're committed to Allah's Will. You can't reason with crazy people.

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I'm saying that the ultimate cost of conducting ourselves peacefully and placidly like so many sacred cows will be our freedom, that the occupy movement has been set up and is losing momentum by the day because it embraced his ideals,

I disagree about your views on occupy. The winter has more to do with the quiet than a lack of desire to do something or embracing anyone's ideals.

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Peace has it's time and place, now is not that time, here is not that place.

This is your opinion. And you are just as entitled to it as the pro-lifers are to theirs. Having said that, I know, personally, that the Pittsburgh movement isnt resting on their laurels. The warmer weather will bring a new awakening. And that is my personal opinion, again, something I am entitled too.

But, as for the boards, personal attacks are against TOS. How the moderators may view certain posts is strictly up to them and the owners of the site. Beyond popular opinion, freedom of speech does not apply here. Its a privately owned web site. If they feel someone is attacking someone else personally, they will take action.

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if I get mail for this and they don't, then we can safely judge that the admins have no idea what they're doing.

How will you know if they do or dont? The mods wont tell you. Unless those whose posts you are objecting too tell you, you will never know. You are assuming they dont know their jobs.

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ORIGINAL: jennah
Most abortions are done after the point where there is a heart beat.

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminGamma

I wanted to commend all the posters so far. This can be a very emotional and passionate topic. So far I have seen it handled very well (with the exception of one small possible hijack).

Thanks to ALL of you for contributing to the forums,
VideoAdminGamma

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Take a look at what I highlighted. In any discussion personal attacks means you have lost.

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I never said your view wasnt valid. I said it was ineffective.

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I never said your view wasnt valid. I said it was ineffective.

Given that "Engaging them as rational adults" hasn't worked out, I can't see how it's any less effective than other strategies.

The Supreme Court ruled what, like FORTY YEARS AGO, and these troglodytes are still stuck on "It's G-d's Will For The Whores To Die Getting Abortions".

The idea of treating nutjobs like that as anything BUT that they're both crazier and more dangerous than a homeless crack addict wandering the streets is ludicrous.

People who promote such dangerous thoughts aren't worthy of respect, only contempt , an POSSIBLY on a good day, pity.

Remember, for all their rhetoric, it's these "Pro Coathanger Death" advocates who are the ones who have been convicted for murdering people. And if they've killed once in the name of Allah, they'll do it again, won't they?

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Face it, they don't give a shit about anyone's lives. Otherwise they'd mind their own fucking business.

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

why should a woman who took all reasonable precautions (and dont even get me STARTED on the rape/incest/etc) be forced to carry a baby to term if the child is unwanted?

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

why should a woman who took all reasonable precautions (and dont even get me STARTED on the rape/incest/etc) be forced to carry a baby to term if the child is unwanted?

What if the father wants the baby? He gets no say? It may be a woman's body but, the baby belongs to BOTH of them and if either parent wants the child to live, abortion should be ruled out (except where the mother's life is in danger).



Peace and comfort,



Michael