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Big story of the day - 6/1/2006 3:21:33 PM   
Chaingang


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Status: offline 		"Was the 2004 Election Stolen?"

Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House. BY ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
or
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen/print
and
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10463875/was_the_2004_election_stolen_sources_and_commentary

Servers seem slow to me. It could mean something....

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/1/2006 3:52:37 PM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		Yes it was. Glunk.

[sorry, what do I know?]

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/1/2006 4:05:13 PM   
SirKenin


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Status: offline 		Holy jeepers.  People need to get over it already.  Whenever they do not get their own way, or there is something unknown, out come the Americans with their conspiracy theories.  Holy crap already.

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/1/2006 4:11:20 PM   
Pavel


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Status: offline 		Of course the election was stolen.  If it was a fair, untampered with election, I'd be ruleing America with an iron fist right now.

And by fair, I mean, worked out in the way that I liked.  I don't trust anyone with a last name like Kennedy anyways.

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/1/2006 4:24:15 PM   
MasterRenegade77


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Wonders what all you people who hide your head in the sand or ignore the truth are going to say when you no longer have any rights cause you refused to see the train-wreck coming to America???

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/1/2006 4:38:08 PM   
NastyDaddy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chaingang
"Was the 2004 Election Stolen?"

Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House. BY ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.


The popular vote did not decide the election anyway, so nobody's vote really mattered.

The election was decided by the electoral college, as they all are.

Ever seen a sitting president who was defeated in the popular vote count... he's still there.

   

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/1/2006 4:43:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chaingang

"Was the 2004 Election Stolen?"

Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted ...



It should never have come down to that anyway.

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/1/2006 5:07:50 PM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		Your reply "get over it already". 

I think not!

This was, and is a serious matter.

If anything the electorate hasn't held this adminsitration acountable for anything.

It isn't that easy to just pencil in a "get over it".  [You are entitled to your opinion]

Always ask questions to authority- always.

Bush was installed by a Supreme court which was installed by his... arghh.

Nevermind. Chew bubblegum and be happy.

Regards-

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/2/2006 2:30:19 AM   
Kedikat


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And nothing is being done to prevent it getting worse.

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/2/2006 3:01:55 AM   
leakylee


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Status: offline 		umm Get over it?  It is 2006, it is a bit to late to worry about it now. I am ashamed. I voted for him. Please dont stone me. Hindsite is 20/20. At least he cant run again, and cross fingers that we wont end up in open war with Iran before 2008.

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/2/2006 4:29:45 AM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		'lee,

My mom and gram, a friend of mine voted for him too. Thru-out the nasty campaigne, I felt it was important to not lose friendship with SL [her intitials]

I spoke to her recently she said this is not conservative that she recognizes.

I myself split my vote ticket often, 3 ways even. I am registerred to no party. No afiliation.

On the onehand it is too late. On the other, not.
Voting is a good thing.

Think of the lone man that stood the tanks in Tienemen square.  Democracy is participatory. 

While people that agree with us are comfy- we can learn and be better by intelligent debate over real issues. Just maybe we can collectively come up with better ideas this way.

I think impeachment would be a waste of time- sour grapes.

But I also think- it can never be too late- to try to  participate in our democracy.


http://congress.org 

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/hopeisontheway/ 

We never heard from the tank man. Never knew who he was.

Keep expressing your voice.  For that I commend you.

Sincerest Regards, Turbo

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/2/2006 4:33:35 AM   
pinkee


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Status: offline 		My last position in Florida was legislative liasion to the Commission on Capital Cases.  Death Penalty cases take up approximately 50% of the Supreme Court's time, and i was honored to become acquainted with the Justices.  They are IMO just, intelligent and wise people, who rendered what they thought was a fair decision.
 
For all my complaints about Bush -- and they are legion -- i would not have wanted Gore in the White House on 9/11.
 
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RE: Big story of the day - 6/2/2006 4:55:32 AM   
leakylee


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Status: offline 		Thank you very much for the links and the encouragement. I am going to have to reregister in FL soon. I have always always gone with the conservative side of things when in doubt. Not anymore. It will be no party this time. Like Pinkee I am thankful that Bush was in office on 9/11, but my faith in the republicans has just gone to hell in a waste paper basket. I have always voted, and always will. Even if my home state cant count. I sometimes do wish that we had the option to call our leader to task, without the impeachment process, like some parlimentary goverments do.

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/2/2006 5:15:57 AM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		On congress.org.  use 1 issue position per contact. Avoid preprinted canned mail drives. Use your own words.

Mention you are a registerred voter whom votes every election.

You dont have to go with flavor of the day issues. These messages DO get read. [by staff anyhow]

If every elegible person to vote- did this regularly. Per haps we would have better public service.

You can also phone. Tell the operator " I wish to register an opinion" or I wish to be logged as in support of bill 123. or I wish to recieve a response on sentators intended vote on bill 12345-06.
Again one issue per contact.

You ROCK!

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/2/2006 5:18:06 AM   
Chaingang


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RE: Big story of the day - 6/2/2006 5:41:38 AM   
leakylee


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Status: offline 		Now this is a really interesting, and I thought it was BS then. The STATE was the one that should have resolved the issue not the Federal supreme court. But why in this day and age, when so many people have ample access to the "issues" is the popular not the deciding factor. "For the People, By the People" Or am I just being just having a 'tard fest?

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/2/2006 6:00:49 AM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		IMO the Supreme court might have said- OK- candidate A or B, and the winner serves 2 or 4 years. With no ability to run again.

Being that 8 years was possible-probable to the winner. Too much was on the table for the gamble.
So had the court- ruled- on a abreviated term, todays political climate would be much different.

If it were me- I would have redid the election, or I might have banned both men from presidency in light of the power grab.

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/2/2006 6:05:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		The key word here is "BY ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR."  He is a scum bag criminal and a pathologic liar Im not gonna bother going to those links if it was written by him.

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/2/2006 6:11:39 AM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		I lost you. What are you talking about?

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RE: Big story of the day - 6/2/2006 6:16:59 AM   
Moloch


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Status: offline 		These articles were written my ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.    who in my eyes as about as credible is Miachel Moore

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