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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 4:25:57 PM

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It's been my experience here that submissives here often are looking for the one WHO DOES EVERYTHING FOR THEM. Is this really submission???...it seems more like vanilla world-- female domination to me than submission. I'm not saying I wouldn't do many things for a submissive I cared for, but I just don't have a feeling here that submission means submission.

well, for god's sake just remember, the problem is surely with everyone else and not with you.

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 4:44:42 PM

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Oh, theres a hell of alot of pillow princesses out there, sure. Have em gargle your cock and kick em to the curb.

PillowPrincess!! That is SO my next screen name. LOVE YOU RON!!

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 5:01:12 PM

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Well a few thoughts here:

1) You've made some generalizations. Not every woman in her 40s wants someone older than her. Matter of fact, most of my group of friends has always gone for someone close to own age. So, my suggestion is don't give up. Unless she specifically says she wants someone older, then go ahead and contact her.

2) A large group of women in their 20s still have the fairy tale deeply embedded. They meet some handsome, rich guy that saves them. They have unformed ideas of an adult relationship because they don't have the experience. The hot 20 year olds are dealing with guys that are tripping over themselves in an effort to win her over. In short, she'll develop "hot chick syndrome". So, chances are if you're in the 40 year old and above range, a lot of these 20 year olds are viewing you as a sugar daddy.

3) Your profile is flat out off putting. If I were looking, that profile would mean that I wouldn't even respond.

So, I think you need to take a step back, keep a positive attitude and keep trying.

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 5:13:17 PM

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Oh, theres a hell of alot of pillow princesses out there, sure. Have em gargle your cock and kick em to the curb.

PillowPrincess!! That is SO my next screen name. LOVE YOU RON!!

Ohhh .. I was gonna use that too!!!! Now I'll have to come up with something else.

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 5:26:08 PM

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Well, to some degree it comes down to definitions, and on the other, it's that old question of "submissive ti whom?"

Most of the subs I know are not stamped with the same submissive mold in every aspect of life, and to every person they meet. If the giving of submission is truly a gift then it can't be freely given to every person who asks for it. Most subs tend to feel that they will give submission as part of a power DYNAMIC which is directed specifically to a Dominant partner within that dynamic—after a mutual agreement has been met. In other words, a sub doesn't get all "subby" until they find the right Dominant in the right situation. Until that happens, you shouldn't expect to necessarily see great evidence of their submissive souls.

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 5:29:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: brder

It's been my experience here that submissives here often are looking for the one WHO DOES EVERYTHING FOR THEM. Is this really submission???...it seems more like vanilla world-- female domination to me than submission. I'm not saying I wouldn't do many things for a submissive I cared for, but I just don't have a feeling here that submission means submission.

Maybe.... Maybe not... Frankly does it matter? I have my girls and we have a wonderful relationship that we three are all thriving in. I am thinking if it works with the person your involved with can see why it would matter about others.....

Oh that's right... There are some that are single and looking... Unfortunately some have trouble with finding their dream sub or Dom and blame it on the fish are not biting instead of the bait they are using.

Oh well. Sucks to be you

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 7:24:10 PM

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OP, I'm submissive to one and one only. However, I certainly didn't give instant obedience on the first meet. I asked lots of questions for years as I learned who he was and what kind of a decision maker he was. Because this is my life I'm handing over and that means I have to pick someone incredibly competent to give that kind of authority to.

But nobody knows that on a first meet. You're expecting them to submit before they can trust you. You're expecting a first meet to be like someone who has been in a relationship for years. It doesn't work that way. Just like you don't compare a two week romance to a marriage of twenty years, and yet that's exactly what you're doing.

You want someone to submit totally, then you have to demonstrate that you totally deserve that. It isn't about the perks, it's about the responsibility. And your profile does not suggest in the least that you want or could handle that kind of responsibility. Owning an animal is a huge responsibility. You have to come home and walk and feed it on time, even when you would rather go out drinking with friends. Owning a human being is a hundred times more responsibility. You don't appear to be someone who could be a good owner.

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 8:01:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: brder

It's been my experience here that submissives here often are looking for the one WHO DOES EVERYTHING FOR THEM. Is this really submission???...it seems more like vanilla world-- female domination to me than submission. I'm not saying I wouldn't do many things for a submissive I cared for, but I just don't have a feeling here that submission means submission.

I'm really not sure what anything means some days. Coffee generally helps me with that. I often feel like I am submissive to the Kings of Java.

I will say, however, that I don't find temper tantrums terribly dominant. But then that's my own point of view. Obviously, your definition does include them. To each their own. Meh.

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 8:04:03 PM

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OP, dontcha just LOVE someone expecting you to provide for all her needs with nothing to offer in return? Welcome to our reality as female dominants, dude. We get wankers who expect us to be on-demand, drive-thru fetish delivery systems ALL the time. Why should it be any different for you?

+1 on the profile critique. There's nothing in there but whining. Not surprising you're getting the...ahem...replies you're getting. You can do better.

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 8:06:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Oh, theres a hell of alot of pillow princesses out there, sure. Have em gargle your cock and kick em to the curb.

PillowPrincess!! That is SO my next screen name. LOVE YOU RON!!

Ohhh .. I was gonna use that too!!!! Now I'll have to come up with something else.

You ladies can fight over PillowPrincess. Meanwhile, I'm walkin' away with CockGargler.

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 8:11:51 PM

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Define "everything".

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 9:00:50 PM

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Lizi - no, I just find that many submissives here want a "Master" who does everything for them...sometimes when I ask them up front and sometimes it comes out later after they 'commit'

Well that certainly sucks but to question whether the 1000's of submissives on cm are really submissive based on your personal experience seems a bit off.

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 9:23:18 PM

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You seem to think that because a person identifies as a submissive, that they should bend over for you because you identify yourself as Dominant. Many submissives I have met face to face have very dominant or bubbly personalities, that in no way makes them pushovers. Submission isnt given to titles, it's inspired, I daresay earned. If you believe that a woman of any age is going to drop her financial security, personal safety, family, friends, and panties because you made an account on CM, you will be sorely dissapointed. The way you worded your post reeks of a sexist entitlement attitude that only a very small nich of women are going to respond to. Most importantly, your idea of submission and probably your perception of dominance will not be compatible with many of your target audience. Instead of trying to define what a woman shouldn't be, work on ways to inspire them to please you. If you can inspire a woman to lust for your every whim, there is no effort she will not make to satisfy you.

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 9:27:45 PM

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*falls down in lust to Endivius* What he said....

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 9:56:42 PM

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wait....he's supposed to do everything for me instead of the other way around????!!!!

Shit! No one told me that. Sigh. I've been wronged

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 10:00:31 PM

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littlewonder-

Id pay to see you tell your Master, But no Sir your supposed to do the laundry....

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 10:02:11 PM

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hahaha....he'd pay someone to see that too! I think he would look at me and wonder who I was. lol

Maybe I should give it a shot though huh? LOL

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 10:06:28 PM

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Stranger things have been known to happen....He might just say,,, You know your right ill start a load, do you have anything you want to throw in?

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 10:26:26 PM

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*falls down in lust to Endivius* What he said....

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RE: Are the submissives here really submissive? - 2/1/2012 10:45:37 PM

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I think the last stat taken was that 17% defo are TRUE the rest are hookers, or men, or peanuts. It's a terrible, sad state of affairs.
And I disagree completely with Crazy up there, I think your profile will bring them to you in flocks.
FLOCKS.

Yuppers, take her word as gospel. 17% for reals, all the rest are some guy named Arpig with multiple accounts.

And I think your profile rocks dude.

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