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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/6/2012 9:35:34 AM

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holy shit, you mean muslims hate jews?! WTF?!

Apparently there was a falling out between the two camps, due to christian interventions in the area, long about the 1100s and on...

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/6/2012 3:29:30 PM

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Not for nothing.....but aren`t eschatologists Christians,the fundies,essentailly calling/hoping/prayaing for the annihilation of Israel for the fullfilment of their "prophecy"?

If the answer is yes.....what makes them any different from the whacko Iranians?

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/6/2012 5:34:56 PM

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Not for nothing.....but aren`t eschatologists Christians,the fundies,essentailly calling/hoping/prayaing for the annihilation of Israel for the fullfilment of their "prophecy"?

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They are... ask em to admit it though and it's another story. It's sort of reminiscent of every other dealing Americans have with the rest of the world. Careful my friend, we're in the den of , I better use his terminology, certain someone who can at with post inflammatory side trips and as long as 'parliment's greatest hits' <wemissbootsy> are crammed into the next post, it's okay...
But to the matter of your compelling question, I feel bad for Israelis and I don't mean Netanyahu, I don't mean some eye-patched mother fucker who just can't be reasoned with... I feel bad for my highschool friend Sheila,, who slipped over there to capture her roots on a kibbutz and met Mr. Right and started a family. But one day came home to learn that he son is dead FROM SHOPPING. And now, my old friend is the PAWN for fucking SNOT like John Boehner and Erik <swastikas> Kantor while they beat up on the the President for words he said this week, or if he doesn't say them next week.
I think unfortunately it's time to let the Israeli's do what they think they need to do, and if they get attacked, do what we promised them we'd do.

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/6/2012 9:44:15 PM

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I think unfortunately it's time to let the Israeli's do what they think they need to do, and if they get attacked, do what we promised them we'd do.

The attempt to paint Israel as the victim in all of this doesn't stand up to any scrutiny.

Israel has been claiming Iran is trying to manufacture nuclear weapons since 1996, the claims usually accompanied by implicit or explicit threats to attack Iran. It's simply hilarious to see that when the Iranians throw a bit of vitriol back at the State that has been threatening to bomb it for 16 years, the Iranians are accused of disturbing the peace.

Since 1996, Israel has invaded its neighbours - both north Lebanon, and south Gaza - on multiple occasions. During this period Iran has attacked precisely NO ONE. Israel is currently the only nuclear-armed State in the region. Whether this issue would exist if Israel wasn't nuclear-armed is an interesting question.

The proposition that Iran, poorly armed and geographically remote from Israel, the regions dominant military force with the most experienced, technologically advanced, best equipped and ruthless military, poses a military threat to Israel's existence is just plain silly.

There are a number of peaceful solutions to the current impasse available. AFAIK, Israel is straining at the leash to get the OK form Obama to attack Iran and not pursuing any diplomatic solution. It has shown zero interest in one of the peace proposals - all the States in the region agreeing to make the region a nuclear weapons free zone. Iran agrees with this proposal. A cynic could comment that Israel's motivation has less to do with the improbable event of an Iranian attack than preserving its military (nuclear) edge over its perceived enemies.

All of this sidesteps the obvious questions: According to Pancetta, the US Sec for Defence, Iran is not pursuing nuclear weapons. If this is true, then why are the war drums beating? Hasn't anyone learnt a single lesson from the last time we were told about WMDs in the region? Any one wish to re-visit the Iraq debacle? Is it OK to bomb another country on suspicion?

And of course, while Western attention is diverted to Iran, Israel quietly gets on with its goal of colonising the entire West Bank and ethnically cleansing the indigenous population .......

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/6/2012 10:50:55 PM

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Did you read that I have a friend with a NAME and a son who died?

1)I don't give a flying fuck anymore about the politicians.
2)I don't give a fuck about the Mullas or whatever the fuck you want to call them
3)I don't want any more nukes being made ANYWHERE. If they're already built, I accept that someone from that region with the intellect of a draft horse will use it.
4)But if there isn't one yet. I don't care how meny people have to have the door close on their fingers to stop it.
5) Take a tour of Hiroshima some day.

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/6/2012 10:54:16 PM

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Israel has been claiming Iran is trying to manufacture nuclear weapons since 1996, the claims usually accompanied by implicit or explicit threats to attack Iran. It's simply hilarious to see that when the Iranians throw a bit of vitriol back at the State that has been threatening to bomb it for 16 years, the Iranians are accused of disturbing the peace.

Oh hell, tweak, they both are, and have been, for a long, long time.

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Since 1996, Israel has invaded its neighbours - both north Lebanon, and south Gaza - on multiple occasions. During this period Iran has attacked precisely NO ONE. Israel is currently the only nuclear-armed State in the region. Whether this issue would exist if Israel wasn't nuclear-armed is an interesting question.

Just as interesting a question would be if Iran had nuclear arms, would they have been as eager to attack or remained as peaceful as you present them to be?

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The proposition that Iran, poorly armed and geographically remote from Israel, the regions dominant military force with the most experienced, technologically advanced, best equipped and ruthless military, poses a military threat to Israel's existence is just plain silly.

Then why the threat?

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There are a number of peaceful solutions to the current impasse available. AFAIK, Israel is straining at the leash to get the OK form Obama to attack Iran and not pursuing any diplomatic solution. It has shown zero interest in one of the peace proposals - all the States in the region agreeing to make the region a nuclear weapons free zone. Iran agrees with this proposal. A cynic could comment that Israel's motivation has less to do with the improbable event of an Iranian attack than preserving its military (nuclear) edge over its perceived enemies.

Of which the western allies of Israel are pushing to find at this point.

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All of this sidesteps the obvious questions: According to Pancetta, the US Sec for Defence, Iran is not pursuing nuclear weapons. If this is true, then why are the war drums beating? Hasn't anyone learnt a single lesson from the last time we were told about WMDs in the region? Any one wish to re-visit the Iraq debacle? Is it OK to bomb another country on suspicion?

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — American and European officials said Friday that a mission by international nuclear inspectors to Tehran this week had failed to address their key concerns, indicating that Iran’s leaders believe they can resist pressure to open up the nation’s nuclear program.

The assessment came as Iran’s supreme leader lashed out at the United States, vowing to retaliate against oil sanctions and threats of military action and warning that any attack “would be 10 times worse for the interests of the United States” than it would be for Iran.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/04/world/middleeast/irans-supreme-leader-threatens-retaliation-against-attack.html

BRUSSELS (AP) – U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta won't dispute a report that he believes Israel may attack Iran this spring in an attempt to set back the Islamic republic's nuclear program.

Panetta was asked by reporters to comment on a Washington Post opinion column by David Ignatius that said Panetta believes there isa "strong likelihood" that Israel will attack in April, May or June. Ignatius did not say who told him this.

Asked whether he disputes the report, Panetta said, "No, I'm just not commenting."
He added, "What I think and what I view, I consider that to be an area that belongs to me and nobody else."

He noted that Israel has stated publicly that it is considering military action against Iran. He said the U.S. has "indicated our concerns."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-02-02/panetta-israel-iran-attack/52939426/1

Seems to me he is not discounting the reports. However, I have yet to see anyone call for the bombing of Iran.

Seems like an awful lot of threats from a peaceful country, no?

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/6/2012 11:01:07 PM

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The counterpunch site has this very interesting and revealing history of successive US Administrations' attitudes towards the presence of nuclear weapons in the Middle East.

No surprises really. It's a detailed account of how Israel can get away with anything it likes (because of the perceived power of the AIPAC/Zionist lobby in internal US politics) even though Israeli behaviour is often directly contrary to the policy and interests of the US. On the Israeli side, a consistent history of lies told at the highest levels to mislead and manipulate its "ally". In this instance, Israel gets to build itself as many nuclear weapons as it likes, despite US policy of opposing nuclear proliferation. Of course, this privilege isn't extended to others in the region. Any American at a loss to understand the anti-American feelings so widespread in the Arab world can look to double standards such as this for part of the answer.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/02/02/the-iran-crisis-and-israeli-nukes/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-iran-crisis-and-israeli-nukes

One of the upshots of these years of duplicity is the current crisis.

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/7/2012 1:02:59 AM

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Since 1996, Israel has invaded its neighbours - both north Lebanon, and south Gaza - on multiple occasions. During this period Iran has attacked precisely NO ONE. Israel is currently the only nuclear-armed State in the region. Whether this issue would exist if Israel wasn't nuclear-armed is an interesting question.

Just as interesting a question would be if Iran had nuclear arms, would they have been as eager to attack or remained as peaceful as you present them to be?

They probably would have been Tazzy. Its well known Iran is one of the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the region, and coincidentally enough, they sponsor groups (Hamas and Hizbullah) that have a genocidal intent toward the country they have been threatening for two decades now. Besides the threats, thats a big factor in the fears about Iran.

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The proposition that Iran, poorly armed and geographically remote from Israel, the regions dominant military force with the most experienced, technologically advanced, best equipped and ruthless military, poses a military threat to Israel's existence is just plain silly.

Then why the threat?

Iran doesn't have a particularly poor military but a good bit of the technology is ageing due to its political isolation. Nonetheless they obtain advanced weaponry from Russia, and have invested substantially in their own weaponry building submarines, planes and missiles. They spend less than Saudi Arabia but the latter country greatly inflated its spending in recent years to counter Iran as part of US efforts to counter Iran.

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/7/2012 3:14:12 AM

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KHAMENEI is as consistent in his rhetoric as Ron Paul is in his. Apparently that is applaudable in some circles.

Nevertheless; both of their views are going nowhere, in principle and practice.

Ron Paul has almost no power as a candidate. Khamenie is the Supreme leader of Iran and some say...has ALL of the real power in Iran. Huge difference.

I do not trust Israel, I do not trust our govt. and I do not trust any Arab country's leaders or theocrats. SO...

...there will be war. War IS a racket cybersluts. It is so, so profitable and as usual, those that profit will still do...none of the dying.

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/7/2012 5:09:05 AM

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Ron Paul has almost no power as a candidate. Khamenie is the Supreme leader of Iran and some say...has ALL of the real power in Iran. Huge difference.

Whoever says that he doesn't, besides Khameni and Ahminadinnajacket?

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/7/2012 5:14:08 AM

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Did you read that I have a friend with a NAME and a son who died?

1)I don't give a flying fuck anymore about the politicians.
2)I don't give a fuck about the Mullas or whatever the fuck you want to call them
3)I don't want any more nukes being made ANYWHERE. If they're already built, I accept that someone from that region with the intellect of a draft horse will use it.
4)But if there isn't one yet. I don't care how meny people have to have the door close on their fingers to stop it.
5) Take a tour of Hiroshima some day.

I'm sorry for your friend. I'm equally sorry for the other tens of thousands on ALL sides who have died pointless stupid deaths in
the Middle East. I hope you are too.

And I will be equally sorry for the tens of thousands who will die in the future because the Israelis are too greedy and arrogant to learn to live in peace with the Palestinians and instead choose to obliterate all hope of a sensible two state solution preferring to steal what remains of Palestine. I hope you will be too.

I hope you will be more than me because your country, not mine, armed the loonies, finances the loonies provides diplomatic cover from the wrath of the rest of the world for the right wing loonies who run Israel, the same loonies who have been taking your country to the cleaners for the past 50+ years.

Perhaps its going to take another war and several more tens of thousands of pointless deaths for you to realise this. I hope not. Between now and then try to find a better basis for forming views about international affairs than your personal relationships. An alternative basis for forming such views that I can recommend is the facts. Please try to learn them.

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/7/2012 5:43:56 AM

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The proposition that Iran, poorly armed and geographically remote from Israel, the regions dominant military force with the most experienced, technologically advanced, best equipped and ruthless military, poses a military threat to Israel's existence is just plain silly.

tazzygirl
Then why the threat?

from wiki:
"Iran is not known to currently possess weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and has signed treaties repudiating the possession of weapons of mass destruction including the Biological Weapons Convention,[1] the Chemical Weapons Convention,[2] and the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).[3] Over 100,000 Iranian troops and civilians were victims of chemical weapons during the 1980s Iran–Iraq War.[4][5] On ideological grounds, a public and categorical religious decree (fatwa) against the development, production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons has been issued by the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic Ali Khamenei along with other clerics,[6][7] while it is supported by others in the religious establishment.[8] Iran has stated its uranium enrichment program is exclusively for peaceful purposes.[9][10] The IAEA has confirmed the non-diversion of declared nuclear material in Iran, but has also said it "needs to have confidence in the absence of possible military dimensions to Iran’s nuclear programme."[11][12] The IAEA has pointed out that Iran is not implementing the requirements of UN Security Council Resolutions and needs to cooperate to clarify outstanding issues and meet requirement to provide early design information on its nuclear facilities.[13]
In a 2007 National Intelligence Estimate, the United States Intelligence Community assessed that Iran had ended "nuclear weapon design and weaponization work" in 2003.[14] In 2009, U.S. intelligence assessed that Iranian intentions were unknown but that if Iran pursued a nuclear weapon it would be "unlikely to achieve this capability before 2013" and acknowledged "the possibility that this capability may not be attained until after 2015."[15][16] Some European intelligence believes Iran has resumed its alleged nuclear weapons design work.[17] Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said he had seen no evidence of any nuclear weapons program in Iran,[18] while Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said Iran was getting closer to having the capability to produce nuclear weapons.[19][20] Iran has called for nuclear weapons states to disarm and for the Middle East to be a nuclear weapon free zone.[21]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

The US Defense Secretary Pancetta has confirmed that Iran is not seeking nuclear weapons. The head of Mossad has admitted that a nuclear-armed Iran does NOT pose an "existential threat to Israel". One would think these two individuals are in positions to know.

So surely the question is: Why is Iran being threatened with attack because of alleged nuclear weapons that the US says aren't there, and even if they were there, aren't a terminal problem? Even Western diplomats who have negotiated with Iran on this issue admit that the West is being the aggressor.

Israel is continually threatening to attack Iran for reasons that the US Secretary of Defense says are not valid. So why the constant Israeli threats?

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/7/2012 6:34:02 AM

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I hope you will be more than me because your country, not mine, armed the loonies, finances the loonies provides diplomatic cover from the wrath of the rest of the world for the right wing loonies who run Israel, the same loonies who have been taking your country to the cleaners for the past 50+ years.

You obviously HAVEN'T been reading other threads I have published throughout my tenure here. But just so you know I'm not only SORRIER THAN YOU. I'm RIGHT NOW, actively in the midst of doing a lot more than you (at least apparently) to end the acts that generate the sentiments of foreigners, but also give me my country back.
   I think it's conservative to say that since September 28th of last year I have spent 100 -125 hours in the street protesting, supporting a movement, lending the benefit of my rather rich technical background to it.
   I am just tired of seeing this culture that you value so much stick it's head in the noose and expect us to stop Israel from defending itself. You know, it's really odd to me though as an American to hear we're on the crazy side when the chief contribution Iran has been making, distributing, and funding with their OIL WEALTH is high explosives. And their chief negotiating tool has been supporting terrorists.
   And please, call me ignorant but I just can't seem to remember the last time I read about an Israeli citizen with a bomb strapped to his chest going somewhere there were nothing but peaceful, law abiding citizens, going about their business and DETONATING. As in BOOM
   I also don't ever remember any Israelis spending years infiltrating our country and then on cue proceeding to our airports and committing the most SAVAGE HIJACKINGS IN THE WORLD'S ENTIRE HISTORY (teenagers even got their throats slashed with box cutters ... cut your finger with one sometime and imagine how painful that is on your throat.)... And then, Once in control FLEW THEM INTO BUILDINGS FULL OF JET FUEL and went ...BOOM. I'm DYING to hear about a time the US ever generated that many INNOCENT CIVILIAN CASUALTIES IN JUST TWO SHOTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST
   But anyway, we differ in opinion and I'm good with that. And I won't lay any guilt trip on you how sorry you should feel for anything since I learned from an alcoholic who's spent the last 7 years trying to take my kids away from me, that I'm sort of immune to them at this point.

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/7/2012 6:45:33 AM

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from wiki:
"Iran is not known to currently possess weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and has signed treaties repudiating the possession of weapons of mass destruction including the Biological Weapons Convention,[1] the Chemical Weapons Convention,[2] and the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty

And since Iran writes it's own wiki page, this means WHAT?

And yeah ... I agree Iran has broken MANY treaties, including one to be the United States Ally , by taking a bunch of our citizens and military HOSTAGE and trying to manipulate (successfully, or elections... If I ever had a reason to dislike Iran Ronald Reagan would be at the top of the list).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

And hey... here's another very tellingt wiki article you might want to read ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state_terrorism

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/7/2012 9:13:04 AM

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I am just tired of seeing this culture that you value so much stick it's head in the noose and expect us to stop Israel from defending itself.

When you explain to me how :
*maintaining a ruthless military occupation of land it has no claim to for 45 years now - an occupation so repugnant to every known human value that it has stooped to the systematic abuse and torture of children;
*running an apartheid system of administration and law based entirely on race in the West bank;
*and engaging in the wholesale theft of another people's land - the West bank;
adds up to poor little misunderstood Israel "defending itself", you may have a case worth listening to.

When you explain to me how the slaughter of 1500 Palestinians in Cast Lead - including about 350 children - is any different to any terrorist act, you might have some credibility. Or the slaughter of thousands of Palestinian non-combatants since the Occupation of Palestine began in 1967, again, you might have some credibility.

When you explain how the Israeli Defence Force's killing over 1350 Palestinian children since 2000 is Israel "defending itself", you might have some credibility.

There's a big difference between self defence and intransigence, belligerence and aggression. There's little difference between civilians murdered by terrorists and children tortured and murdered by Israeli Occupation Forces. If you wish to hold forth on these topics, it's a good idea to be aware of this.

It's folly to pretend to oppose terrorism in one area and support it when it's conducted by a State you arm finance and protect from ever having to account for its innumerable crimes

OTOH there are few things I would rather see than Israel confining itself to legitimate self defence. That would entail, at a minimum, a withdrawal to Israel's internationally recognised borders - the pre-1967 borders. Israel is perfectly entitled to defend the integrity of the pre-1967 borders. That would be legitimate self-defence. Self-defence does not extend to violence, murder and torture committed in defence of military occupations of non-Israeli land., or as part of the theft of land that doesn't belong to Israel.

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/7/2012 11:26:29 PM

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Well there ya go...

http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/ayatollah-kill-all-jews-annihilate-israel/

Of course the usual subjects here will be blaming the Jews.

Are you suggesting that there's an argument for blaming the Muslims?

I don't see the issue. It's called free speech. But you know the thing is about people the ones who talk about doing something are usually never the ones who have any balls to actually get up and do it.

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/9/2012 5:02:02 PM

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I wouldn't blame it on the jews myself. The Ayatollah and his idiot gimp are free to shoot their mouths off and wiggle their arses at the media like this with impunity because somebody removed from power the regime that's been a balancing factor on Iran's behaviour ever since the revolution.

Hrmph. Calling him a gimp gives all us gimps a bad name!

BTW, I can really understand why Iran would want the bomb. We don't invade troublesome countries that have nukes. Like the USSR, North Korea, China, etc.

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/9/2012 5:13:45 PM

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Well there ya go...

http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/ayatollah-kill-all-jews-annihilate-israel/

Of course the usual subjects here will be blaming the Jews.

Are you suggesting that there's an argument for blaming the Muslims?

I don't see the issue. It's called free speech. But you know the thing is about people the ones who talk about doing something are usually never the ones who have any balls to actually get up and do it.

I don't think anyone is disputing Khamenei's right to speak as he sees fit even though he denies the same right to the people he rules. Its more that he has been expressing genocidal intent at least since the year 2000 whilst attempting in parallel to obtain nuclear technology, and developing long range missiles simultaneously...

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/9/2012 6:02:06 PM

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I don't think anyone is disputing Khamenei's right to speak as he sees fit even though he denies the same right to the people he rules. Its more that he has been expressing genocidal intent at least since the year 2000 whilst attempting in parallel to obtain nuclear technology, and developing long range missiles simultaneously...

They apparently over the last day or so been saying that they "are close to developing a ballistic missile capability". So reports the Japanese news broadcast I watch, which is carried on a PBS channel here in the US.
And I have no idea how biased they are other than they seem to be doing a pretty good job criticizing those in their own country in regard to the nuclear situation.

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RE: AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAEL - 2/9/2012 6:10:17 PM

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I don't think anyone is disputing Khamenei's right to speak as he sees fit even though he denies the same right to the people he rules. Its more that he has been expressing genocidal intent at least since the year 2000 whilst attempting in parallel to obtain nuclear technology, and developing long range missiles simultaneously...

They apparently over the last day or so been saying that they "are close to developing a ballistic missile capability". So reports the Japanese news broadcast I watch, which is carried on a PBS channel here in the US.
And I have no idea how biased they are other than they seem to be doing a pretty good job criticizing those in their own country in regard to the nuclear situation.

Haven't heard that information myself but Iran often run trials for long range missiles that they hint could reach Dimona. It has led Israel to prepare to shut down their reactor there due to fallout risks.

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