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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 2/10/2012 8:20:40 PM   
Kaliko


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ORIGINAL: Endivius

So basically, the op came here and made a post about common sense shit, and for some reason, the thread went three pages long? is that an apt summary?



I do believe my posting this will now bring it to page #4.

Just doing my part.

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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 2/12/2012 7:47:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Endivius

So basically, the op came here and made a post about common sense shit, and for some reason, the thread went three pages long? is that an apt summary? Gonna grab some popcorn and watch the fireworks now.


Well, Yeah if you leave out the drama queens, righteous know-it-alls, back benchers who need to travel in packs because they can't think for them selves and some self proclaimed Master of the message boards all whom are so right in their opinions that all the rest of little people are are just supposed to yield to them because...... Well They're Righteous, period.

And don't dare say, "the king has no clothes" or even have an opinion any different. They are High, They are Mighty you know... Thousands upon thousands of posts should tell you how experienced they really are.... The message board is theirs ! Heil !!!


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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 2/12/2012 9:02:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ohanasvib

The message board is theirs ! Heil !!!




What a shame you chose to go there. ::sigh::

::general reply::

Many thanks for the kind words my post received from you folks. I found posts here that I thought were excellent and still appreciate the OP for starting the thread even though he killed it, too. I will probably re-address this topic at some point because I think it's a good one and there are a lot of thoughtful views to be had here and I'd like to hear them.

I'm thinking.. a different approach. We'll see.






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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 2/13/2012 4:49:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just don't understand. The op made a post (from my perspective , more like a statement). He expressed his opinion and appears that he has a hard time accepting others opinions. It is called discussionand exchange of ideas. I do not see anything wrong with what Kana said, he xpressed his opinion and explained why. I do not believe the op explained why his has his belief (I don't think it matters either).

Bottom line, if you can't handle people disagreeing with you do not post on a public forum.

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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 2/13/2012 7:15:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Buzzzz
He expressed his opinion and appears that he has a hard time accepting others opinions.


That appears to be correct. He's entitled to his opinions, but doesn't understand that everyone else is free to disagree with them and is now throwing a temper tantrum.

< Message edited by OsideGirl -- 2/13/2012 7:16:14 AM >

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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 2/13/2012 8:44:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think it should be a rule that all self proclaimed dominants/masters/mistresses that throw temper tantrums when people disagree with their one true way should implode with lots of flames and sparkly sparks. Leaving only a pair of non damaged sexy shoes where they once stood/sat.

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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 2/13/2012 8:46:14 AM   
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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 2/13/2012 9:54:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Wouldn't you want the ones with the riding boots you wanted to go first?


Definitely!


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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 3/11/2012 8:57:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: monoPupil

Can any of you ever give constructive feedback, or all you all just into bashing each other and feeling empowered by doing so???

I think he is very right in understanding that a slave or submissive whose needs are not looked after, is not a happy one. Surely, for some the needs *are* to not be allowed any needs... but you must wonder how realistic that is. For a while, fine, for a lifetime, its just not going to last. If it does, well sorry, I think that's called abuse. Even if the slave "agrees" to that fate, it does not mean it's "fine" and it should be totally acceptable as just a different form of relationship. Pedophiles also believe they mean well for the kids they abuse, and it really doesnt harm them all that much... Just because YOU think its ok, doesn't mean it IS ok!

Well written, Ohanasvib


agree completely....OP, well written and very true for me at least.

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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 3/11/2012 9:35:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ohanasvib


Well, Yeah if you leave out the drama queens, righteous know-it-alls, back benchers who need to travel in packs because they can't think for them selves and some self proclaimed Master of the message boards all whom are so right in their opinions that all the rest of little people are are just supposed to yield to them because...... Well They're Righteous, period.

And don't dare say, "the king has no clothes" or even have an opinion any different. They are High, They are Mighty you know... Thousands upon thousands of posts should tell you how experienced they really are.... The message board is theirs ! Heil !!!





Couple of things you missed with that bit of tantrum, OP. First- Not all of the comments and opinions expressed here have even been in agreement with *each other* much less with you. Hell, even in the cases where you've got a couple (in whatever style of relationship they've developed), they don't always agree with each other. So, which person was it exactly that we're all supposed to yield to because they're so righteous?

The majority of posts do apparently have ONE opinion in common. That opinion is that every person is different and every relationship is different, and that no umbrella type post like your original one would, or even could work for everyone. Sadly, you seem to have some problem with this. Who exactly is being all righteous and holier than thou here again?

Sure, there are some pieces of your original post that would seem to apply to me, and to the relationship I have with Master, but the larger part of it doesn't. That doesn't mean that Master and I are doing it wrong, or that he's simply abusing me. If you read your original post, however, that's exactly what you're saying is happening since we don't follow your formula exactly.

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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 3/11/2012 11:23:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		The other thing is that the op was rude. He showed up without apparently having ever read what anybody has ever said and proceeded to lecture us without bothering to know whether or not any of us are at all knowledgeable. Like a college freshman who's taken one course in basic meteorology invading the National Weather Service to tell all the guys with the PhDs that they're wrong.

And that's rude. If I had met him somewhere and he started that in person, I would excuse myself stat and never talk to him again. Apparently he must believe that what is unacceptable rudeness in person is welcome online. Since this is so, he has no right to object if people responded to him in exactly the same way he first spoke to us.

The way to get a friend is to be one. The way to receive respect and politeness is to give it.


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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 3/11/2012 5:43:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I think its quite nice that he is aware that having an unhappy and unfulfilled woman around as a slave isn't going to contribute much to either of their lives. And as he says, building a relationship based on 'love, respect and trust' and 'fulfilling her emotional needs' is what he wants for himself. Maybe it is a bit preachy; but the guy is entitled to say what he wants for himself and a woman who is in relationship with him. Now, all I need is someone who's interested in fulfilling my emotional needs...........

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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 3/11/2012 7:54:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder
I'll be sure to tell Master he should stop being angry while he has great fun biting my legs up and laughing his head off at my screams.


Possibly the hottest thing I have ever read on these boards ;)

On to the OP:

You're preaching to the choir dude. Pretty much any of us here without an ice cream cone have made it through the throes of proving realness.

We pretty much have all gotten the point, kinky relationships are just like any other yada yada, anything with human DNA has feelings blah blah blah.

We kinky folk just have a different way of satisfying those feelings.

Grabbing me by the hair and telling me you love how much you make me hurt is a fantastic way to satisfy my feelings.

Ok I'm over my hiccups, time to get back to all that hot touchy feely shit I was writing about.

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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 3/11/2012 11:08:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Its awfully flowery, and not overly well written, but I think the gist of it, assuming I have got that right, is on the whole correct. And a little obvious. Of course a sub or slave must get fulfilment of his/her needs in a relationship, as must a Dom/Owner. Its an interpersonal relationship, a term that implies a certain reciprocity. The trick is figuring out just what those needs are.

The problem you've run into is that it is basically not acceptable to express an opinion on these boards without first clearly stating that it is your opinion and that you know it may not apply to others.

The preceding statement represents the views and opinions of the author and the author alone, and should in no way be considered an attempt by the author to define or determine anything for anybody but herself.


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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 3/12/2012 8:07:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LoreBook


The problem you've run into is that it is basically not acceptable to express an opinion on these boards without first clearly stating that it is your opinion and that you know it may not apply to others.



Not so much. What he did was the equivalent of walking into a room full of people he didn't know and lecturing them all. It wouldn't have been well met in any venue.

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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 3/12/2012 8:47:52 AM   
Kana


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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: LoreBook


The problem you've run into is that it is basically not acceptable to express an opinion on these boards without first clearly stating that it is your opinion and that you know it may not apply to others.

Not so much. What he did was the equivalent of walking into a room full of people he didn't know and lecturing them all. It wouldn't have been well met in any venue.

Exactly.
It's tantamount to walking into someone's house and telling them how they live in it is wrong.
Slice it any way you wanna, but ya can't escape that acting so is just flat out rude.

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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 3/12/2012 5:05:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm actually going to apologize to Bita, because she wrote a lovely post that was far better than the OP. 

I did actually go and look at the OP's profile and found exactly what I thought I would find.  No, I didn't read all of the text.  (Way too long, in My opinion.)  Yes, this is an ad because the OP is still looking for a submissive.  So, he figures, write up the flowery stuff and women will cream their panties, and flock to him in no time.  Nice try, but we have seen the trick before.

Kana, btw, happens to be very right.  There are just too many folks out there doing this thing in various ways for one and only one approach to work.  I really hope that the OP finds the type of dynamic that he's looking for, but for a number of us, it's just really not what we want.


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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 3/13/2012 9:57:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ohanasvib

Well, Yeah if you leave out the drama queens, righteous know-it-alls, back benchers who need to travel in packs because they can't think for them selves and some self proclaimed Master of the message boards all whom are so right in their opinions that all the rest of little people are are just supposed to yield to them because...... Well They're Righteous, period.

And don't dare say, "the king has no clothes" or even have an opinion any different. They are High, They are Mighty you know... Thousands upon thousands of posts should tell you how experienced they really are.... The message board is theirs ! Heil !!!




Thank you for the laughter.

Also, I found some of the responses you slammed or became butthurt from as quite intelligent and well thought out.

If you approach people here with an actual desire to discourse, or ask questions or whatever, you will receive honest well thought out responses, some from the same people that butthurt you. If you come here with another agenda, or to have your ego stroked or whatever... you'll get called on it. This surprises you?

You don't have to agree with anyone else or their opinions. Nor they yours. There are a lot of good people that hang out here but it is like any other group of individuals, you have to hang out, get to know them and bring something to the discussion. Perhaps online some of them are a bit quicker to call you on your shit, or mine but if they posted absolutes like this, they would have been the target instead.

Hey...how did that bullseye get on my back?

Shrug...

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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 3/13/2012 3:00:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ohanasvib

Well, Yeah if you leave out the drama queens, righteous know-it-alls, back benchers who need to travel in packs because they can't think for them selves and some self proclaimed Master of the message boards all whom are so right in their opinions that all the rest of little people are are just supposed to yield to them because...... Well They're Righteous, period.

And don't dare say, "the king has no clothes" or even have an opinion any different. They are High, They are Mighty you know... Thousands upon thousands of posts should tell you how experienced they really are.... The message board is theirs ! Heil !!!








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RE: The emotional side of Mastership - 3/14/2012 8:42:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I like Ohanasvib vision of what a master and sub relationship should be like.

The hard part is finding a master who feels and thinks this way.

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