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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Hey, I like that one. Give her an abortion, and sterilize the guy responsible.

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

I once sat next to a woman in the waiting room at my OB/GYN. She was in tears. She had two sons, she had been laid off 6 months prior. She had decided to have her tubes tied 3 months after being laid off. Then her husband had been laid off. She had recently discovered that even though her tubes had been tied, she became pregnant. Neither she or her husband were working. They decided rather than making their current two children suffer because they couldn't afford the pregnancy or the third child to have an abortion.

I don't view that as irresponsible.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

I once sat next to a woman in the waiting room at my OB/GYN. She was in tears. She had two sons, she had been laid off 6 months prior. She had decided to have her tubes tied 3 months after being laid off. Then her husband had been laid off. She had recently discovered that even though her tubes had been tied, she became pregnant. Neither she or her husband were working. They decided rather than making their current two children suffer because they couldn't afford the pregnancy or the third child to have an abortion.

I don't view that as irresponsible.

This is a heartbreaking situation. I am completely against abortions. I am also all for people being able to choose for themselves. In this particular situation, the couple is making an incredible decision. Absolutely painful and heart rending.

This issue can easily be solved. Women who get abortions....should pay for their abortions. If places like Planned Parenthood want to provide free abortions, go for it. Gather donations (which does not include gub'mint payola...that isn't a donation) and provide to your heart's content. THAT is what should happen. It's not whether or not gub'mint should pay for all abortions, or only for the poor. Gub'mint should not be paying for them at all. Period.

And, if anyone wants to go down the "women's health" road...can you get pregnant or std's from abstinence? Wouldn't that be a boon to a woman's health? Thought so.

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Anyone who goes along with an abortion should be mandatorily sterilized. And, yes, that also includes the father regardless of whether they’re ‘in the picture’ (supported the abortion of their child) or not (i.e. deadbeat dad).

You can keep your rights just as long society can keep theirs. You don’t want a child and terminate it through abortion then you shouldn’t be allowed to have a child at all. Unless you adopt a child. I do support mandatory sterilization for women who get abortions and the father of the child.

It may be controversial but so is getting an abortion in itself. Why not put the two together as a pair? You get one procedure and you’re required to get the other along with it.
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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

I can imagine that a lot of the crazies would fall in line behind a movement which says, since they're irresponsible, we need to save them from themselves and prevent them from aborting another baby by taking away their ability to get pregnant.

As long as the crazies think of woman as their own private breeding stock, as evidenced by all their claims, how long do you think before this comes around?

I dunno. What crazies have proposed the idea, besides you?

K.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I know this will get plenty of flack...but what the hell. Forget abortions....what should be done with women that are receiving government aid for themselves and their child or children... then have another baby...or two or three more babies?

I think it is perfectly reasonable to force these women to accept an implanted contraceptive devise if healthy while receiving aid.

OK I can take it!!!!

Butch

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I know this will get plenty of flack...but what the hell. Forget abortions....what should be done with women that are receiving government aid for themselves and their child or children... then have another baby...or two or three more babies?

I think it is perfectly reasonable to force these women to accept an implanted contraceptive devise if healthy while receiving aid.

OK I can take it!!!!

Butch

Just because they have a child while on welfare doesnt mean their check goes up. It doesnt.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

I once sat next to a woman in the waiting room at my OB/GYN. She was in tears. She had two sons, she had been laid off 6 months prior. She had decided to have her tubes tied 3 months after being laid off. Then her husband had been laid off. She had recently discovered that even though her tubes had been tied, she became pregnant. Neither she or her husband were working. They decided rather than making their current two children suffer because they couldn't afford the pregnancy or the third child to have an abortion.

I don't view that as irresponsible.

This is a heartbreaking situation. I am completely against abortions. I am also all for people being able to choose for themselves. In this particular situation, the couple is making an incredible decision. Absolutely painful and heart rending.

This issue can easily be solved. Women who get abortions....should pay for their abortions. If places like Planned Parenthood want to provide free abortions, go for it. Gather donations (which does not include gub'mint payola...that isn't a donation) and provide to your heart's content. THAT is what should happen. It's not whether or not gub'mint should pay for all abortions, or only for the poor. Gub'mint should not be paying for them at all. Period.

And, if anyone wants to go down the "women's health" road...can you get pregnant or std's from abstinence? Wouldn't that be a boon to a woman's health? Thought so.