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ORIGINAL: LoreBook

So the Dom who demands it gets off scott free?

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ORIGINAL: AislynLass
While everyone's meaning of what it means to be a Master and/or a Dominant varies according to the individual, the one common denominator seemed to be the aspect of the Master and Dominant being the one in control. Control carries with it responsibility, and I frankly do not understand how a person calling themselves a Master or a Dominant would wish that the person who gave up working in order to better please the Master or Dominant would feel justified in so neatly washing their hands of responsibility towards that person as soon as the relationship ended. This is considering a relationship where it did not end because the slave or submissive violated some basic tenet of trust or unethical or violent behavior towards the Master or Dominant.
Here begs the question, did the Dominant require the sub/slave to stop working, or did the sub/slave choose it? That has some bearing on how responsible the Dominant is for the unemployed sub/slave, IMO. This is why I tell a sub to never give up their income for me because I can't afford to support anyone else besides myself. I say that right upfront.
If I were a Master or Dominant, I do not see how I would feel okay that my slave or submissive who gave up or put on hold their career to please me and make themselves more available for my wishes, should then find themselves in a worse situation when the relationship ends that when it began.
Again, this all comes down to choices. I do NOT want a sub of mine to leave his/her job for me, so I don't feel responsible for him/her if the relationship ends. Of course I feel if a Dominant required that, s/he should do all s/he could to help the sub/slave get back on his/her feet.
For the sake of the discussion, I am focusing on the financial aspect. For lack of a better way of phrasing it, I would not wish to see them in a disadvantaged or less position as a result of the time they spent in the relationship with me.
This I agree with, therefore I make the choices I do.

NBMG

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ORIGINAL: LoreBook

That might have been your point, but that wasn't the point made in the post I was replying to

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl
I apologize if this offends anyone, but IMO relying on someone else for 100% financial support for an extended period of time is extremely irresponsible.

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ORIGINAL: Baroana



Now here's where I declare shenanigans.

With few exceptions, which would be irrelevant here, women take birth control pills because they are trying to prevent pregnancy.

Ergo, your friend fucked up, not once, not twice, but three times. The fact that she welcomed the children is irrelevant.

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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ORIGINAL: Baroana



Now here's where I declare shenanigans.

With few exceptions, which would be irrelevant here, women take birth control pills because they are trying to prevent pregnancy.

Ergo, your friend fucked up, not once, not twice, but three times. The fact that she welcomed the children is irrelevant.

How is having sex with your spouse fucking up?

Was it the ideal time to have children for them? No, which was why she trusted her doctor to prescribe the right pills.

Did she regret getting pregnant? No. Those three boys are the light of her life.

Not every pregnancy is a fuck up. Like I said, ALL forms of contraception have a failure rate. To ignore that is stupid.

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu



Yep. When using the Pill correctly, there's only a 0.01% chance of getting pregnant each year. The chance of being that one-in-a-thousand woman three different years? Very, very small. (Also, if you really weren't trying to get pregnant, why would you continue just using the same form of the birth control after it'd already failed? If it failed on me, I'd go get an IUD stat, or try combining the Pill with another method.)

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Ah, I see. It's the doctor's fault

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist


The OP is supposedly an adult who entered into an adult relationship with another person. If she/he CHOSE not to work while in that relationship...then when it ends, and they are left with nothing...it's their fault. A mature, responsible adult would not have allowed themselves to be put in that situation to begin with.

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ORIGINAL: swaybackgirl


If I go the pound and pick a puppy, is it morally right to open the door and release it, don't I as an owner have an obligation to teach and train my puppy regardless?

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu
Yep. When using the Pill correctly, there's only a 0.01% chance of getting pregnant each year. The chance of being that one-in-a-thousand woman three different years? Very, very small. (Also, if you really weren't trying to get pregnant, why would you continue just using the same form of the birth control after it'd already failed? If it failed on me, I'd go get an IUD stat, or try combining the Pill with another method.)

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu
Yep. When using the Pill correctly, there's only a 0.01% chance of getting pregnant each year. The chance of being that one-in-a-thousand woman three different years? Very, very small. (Also, if you really weren't trying to get pregnant, why would you continue just using the same form of the birth control after it'd already failed? If it failed on me, I'd go get an IUD stat, or try combining the Pill with another method.)

Actually, most pills have an 93% effective rate when taken by women every day at the same time under 175 pounds, at 175 pounds or more it goes down to 87%

Also there have been several major recalls in the last 10 years with birth control because of defects in manufacturing, along with other factors such as antibiotics and the like...

To use the pill correctly you have to take it every single day, at the exact same time, and be under 175 pounds...and hope that the drug company didnt fuck up this month... and you never get sick...

And seeing as thats an improbable....


I was conceived on birth control pills, a condom, a cervical cap and spermicide....

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ORIGINAL: jennileigh8182

My son was conceived while I was on NuvaRing, which is damned near impossible to fuck up. I used it properly, it didn't work. When I went in for my postpartum visit and they asked, "Would you like to go back on the method you were using previously?" I, in turn, asked them if they liked me that much, that they wanted to keep me as an OB patient. From there, I tried the shot....it prevented me losing the baby weight and I thought it was making me moody, but turned out it was just that my (now) ex-husband was an asshole. ;) After that, I went on Mirena, which I'm still on. Whether it's effective or not.....*shrugs* I had sex very few times after with my (now) ex-husband, and the relationship with the dominant is quite new, so he's either used a condom or pulled out. But, I have to feel pretty good about it....IUD PLUS hormonal contraception? It's got to work!

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If the slave is staying home and not working, then these are things the "s" should have addressed BEFORE getting into the relationship.++

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ORIGINAL: LoreBook

I would make sure that the money was saved up before I took on a slave who wouldn't be working, I'm not talking about a huge amount, Maybe $1500 to $2000 a month for up to 6 months. When you first start, I would have the slave open a savings account and I'd deposit one month's worth into the account. I would add another month's allowance every 2 months, so at the end of the first year of service, the slave would have enough to carry them for 6 months. After that, I'd add some preset amount to the account at regular intervals (I'm thinking along the lines of $1000 quarterly).

That way, the slave would always have something to fall back on, but the size of the nest egg would be dependant on the length of non-earning service.

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ORIGINAL: MDomCouple

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ORIGINAL: LoreBook

I would make sure that the money was saved up before I took on a slave who wouldn't be working, I'm not talking about a huge amount, Maybe $1500 to $2000 a month for up to 6 months. When you first start, I would have the slave open a savings account and I'd deposit one month's worth into the account. I would add another month's allowance every 2 months, so at the end of the first year of service, the slave would have enough to carry them for 6 months. After that, I'd add some preset amount to the account at regular intervals (I'm thinking along the lines of $1000 quarterly).

That way, the slave would always have something to fall back on, but the size of the nest egg would be dependant on the length of non-earning service.

That's a great way to go about it. I've always gotten nervous about slaves who want to be kept at home, no job, fully dependent upon their Dom. After all, if something goes wrong, they are screwed. But, doing it this way makes a lot of sense. Good advice here.