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Edwynn -> RE: Stand your ground (3/21/2012 8:10:07 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
Now maybe it's just because I'm a New Yorker, but if I'm in a neighborhood where I don't live, especially late at night, and somebody asks me what I'm doing there, I'm gonna be like, hey, it's cool, I'm just visiting (whoever), he lives at (address), I just ran out to the store (show what I'm carrying) and I'm on my way back, you can check it out man. I wouldn't consider the question un-called for, and I sure as hell wouldn't get fucko with the guy. I'm in HIS neighborhood.
Just sayin, yanno? Doesn't seem like the best judgment was used on either side.
K.
It was not late at night, it was just onset of getting dark, it was sometime just after 7 PM. Martin had gone to the store at half time of the NBA all star game. Zimmerman did not ask Martin what he was doing there until after Martin confronted the stranger with the question "Why are you following me?"
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and somebody come up and asks me what I'm doing there,
"somebody"? "somebody" who? What was this particular "somebody" wearing or what did he say or what indication at all was there that this particular "somebody" had any right to ask Martin what he was doing? In my life experience, anybody not a policeman or security guard who asked "what I was doing" when I was minding my own business was in fact himself up to no good.
It doesn't matter if Tayvon Martin lived in the neighborhood or not, some stranger with a red sweatshirt on and obviously not from a LEO nor having any color of authority whatsoever acting in a patently aggressive manner was accosting him (not your everyday "somebody" there) and he felt the need to investigate the matter by asking directly why this wacko was following him. The imposing and aggressive response from this stranger was unlikely to have made Martin suddenly become compliant. I know it surely would not have evoked anything like a compliant reaction from me.
Bottom line, the police were on their way, and the aggressor knew it. There was nothing in Martin's going about having the least cause for concern of imminent danger to anyone, and there was no reason whatsoever to pursue or confront when the professionals, the police, were less than two minutes away.
Given Zimmerman's history, including 46 911 calls within a year, and -Neighbors told the publication he was known to go door-to-door asking residents to be on the lookout for strangers, “specifically referring to young black men who appeared to be outsiders.”-
I can imagine his tone of voice when demanding "what are you doing here?" would not have been the most reassuring to the young man who had just come from the store to get a drink and was talking to his girlfriend on the phone, 100% normal teenage and even adult behavior, 'suspicious' to no one else but this nut case Zimmerman.
Sorry, I'm not going for it. No one in that neighborhood, possibly excluding Zimmerman, knew everybody in the neighborhood well enough to accurately ascertain who 'belonged' there or not. Even people in gated communities have family and friends outside that community who visit on a regular basis, so there is nothing the least unusual about a non-gated person walking along the street in such circumstance.
No, I'm not going for that crap at all.
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