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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 6:02:19 AM   
poise


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elaborate on what specific parts of BDSM you had issues with
and what were the treatment methonds used to cure you?

Also, did you have any relapses during your recovery?

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 6:10:57 AM   
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I'm sorry but I see this as just plain trolling, the alternative being narrow minded.

BDSM is a choice, take some fucking responsibility for what you do to your life. Mental illness sounds like it's an abundance here, but has zip to do with BDSM.

If someone is feeling self destructive and drives recklessly, should they be cured of cars? "omg driving support is never there for me!"
"I cut myself all the time, I should be cured of sharp objects!"

Sounds pretty stupid when you look at it from that context. It's not the means that is at fault, but the motivation of the person abusing themselves that is to blame.

The issue is not BDSM... the problem is YOU.

**Edited because I can't type this morning.

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 7:24:12 AM   
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http://xfetish.blogspot.co.uk/.




i don´t see how replacing masturbation with prayer should be of any help. it´s just replacing one drug with the other.
now he´s submitting to a god instead of a woman. self flagellation ist probably next.

we should also note that this guy never even came near a woman, let alone a domme. he´s a bloody virgin.

i would not exactly call that a sane person to give advice... and when i look what´s dropping out of that brain i have a vague idea why girls don´t go near him.

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 7:42:14 AM   
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I've nothing to prove, you just all seem to close minded to debate with. I'll always get the better of an argument in here, it's too easy


Actually, in all of your threads you've never gotten the better of an argument here- you never have anything to offer in the way of debate or discussion when it comes down to it, while the people responding to you do. You perennially bring a knife to a gun fight and get shot down time after time when others take apart your comments bit by bit and show them to be what they are....your own personal point of view, or some odd tangent that demonstrates support in your eyes like a non-scientific article or online counseling.

You really want support for your feeling that BDSM is bad but you won't get that here and never do. You keep coming back though so you can touch this subject once again that is so near and dear to your heart, you make coming back acceptable to yourself by telling yourself that you're trying to discuss BDSM problems or help people get away from it...much like the preacher who pickets the strip club because he secretly loves to get a glimpse of titties. He can't stay away, needs those titties, makes an excuse to go see them that is more acceptable to him other than going to the club as a customer.

You're welcome to feel however you like about BDSM or anything else in the world. You're not going to get very far in a forum of people who enjoy it. You also aren't going to get very far with nothing to back up your views other than personal preference or BS. That being said, you seem to have an unhealthy obsession with this subject as you return to it time after time - I'm sure you'll be back in the future whenever you need to come closer again to the subject that occupies much of your thinking.

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 7:42:23 AM   
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Because BDSM isn't a mental illness or addiction.



Yes.

So I'm confused about this post.

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 7:53:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		At this point, I'm not terribly confused. He immediately slapped down the information I provided on the true causes of fibromyalgia, and continues to counter everyone with, in more or less words, "you're wrong and I'm right".

This means that he is one very obvious thing:

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 7:56:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hellionsLight


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Because BDSM isn't a mental illness or addiction.



Yes.

So I'm confused about this post.


The OP has been here over and over saying that BDSM is bad because he's projecting how he feels onto everyone else. He feels that it is addicting (for him) and makes him mentally ill, therefore it must be the same for everyone else - because the problem can't be with him, therefore it has to be BDSM.

Strangely enough if he took personal control of his addiction or whatever is bothering him and accepted it, he might get somewhere with it. But he's doing what lots of people do...blame the vehicle so they don't feel badly about themselves for being 'weak' or wanting something they don't agree with. It's the old "I hate myself for loving this" kind of thing and probably includes the fact that he IS addicted to some degree and has to find some acceptable way to justify it to himself. Therefore he has become the crusader and is offering in his eyes logical discussion about this to save others, but in reality he has a burning desire to touch his addiction again.
He keeps coming back with the same old song and dance.

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 8:01:36 AM   
hellionsLight


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ORIGINAL: Killerangel


quote:

ORIGINAL: hellionsLight


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Because BDSM isn't a mental illness or addiction.



Yes.

So I'm confused about this post.



He keeps coming back with the same old song and dance.



Oh, so he's regular troll, eh? Okay :)

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 8:17:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lizi

Busy guy aren't you?
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3954321/mpage_1/key_BDSM%252Cangry/tm.htm#3954685

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3492151/mpage_1/tm.htm

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4033164/mpage_1/tm.htm

he starts at post #36 and continues in through the thread
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3934101/mpage_1/tm.htm


Yes, he's a regular. All these accounts in the above threads are either dead or at least hidden, but check out the nicknames and content. He's been coming back over and over on the same topic.

I'm sure he'll be back again at some point with either a "submaleuk" nic or a "steve" nic. I'm not sure he's a troll so much as someone who is in fact obsessed with the topic and needs to get close to it every so often.

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 8:21:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Killerangel

quote:

ORIGINAL: submaleuk12

blah blah


Actually, in all of your threads you've never gotten the better of an argument here- you never have anything to offer in the way of debate or discussion when it comes down to it, while the people responding to you do. You perennially bring a knife to a gun fight and get shot down time after time when others take apart your comments bit by bit and show them to be what they are...




he´s a masochist. what do you expect?

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 8:42:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Killerangel


The OP has been here over and over saying that BDSM is bad because he's projecting how he feels onto everyone else. He feels that it is addicting (for him) and makes him mentally ill, therefore it must be the same for everyone else - because the problem can't be with him, therefore it has to be BDSM.


It's the equivalent of saying that alcohol makes you an alcoholic rather than realizing that it's your addictive personality that makes you an alcoholic. By his definition everyone that has a drink is an alcoholic.


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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 9:01:32 AM   
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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 9:54:13 AM   
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Is this guy back again? As soon as I started reading the thread, I recognized his B.S.

I was going to dig up his old threads to remind others that he's been here before, but thankfully Lizi and Lockit did the work for me.

Conversations with this guy never go anywhere. He's not here to learn anything. He's here to argue. He'll stick to his original points, regardless of what anyone says. He never supports his points with any facts, and everything he says gets shot down by more informed posters. Yet he continues to push his unsupportable agenda, despite all of the evidence that contradicts his original assertions.

Bottom line: He's not here to have a reasonable discussion. So don't feed the troll.

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 9:56:48 AM   
JanahX


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

Sigh.

Is this guy back again? As soon as I started reading the thread, I recognized his B.S.

I was going to dig up his old threads to remind others that he's been here before, but thankfully Lizi and Lockit did the work for me.

Conversations with this guy never go anywhere. He's not here to learn anything. He's here to argue. He'll stick to his original points, regardless of what anyone says. He never supports his points with any facts, and everything he says gets shot down by more informed posters. Yet he continues to push his unsupportable agenda, despite all of the evidence that contradicts his original assertions.

Bottom line: He's not here to have a reasonable discussion. So don't feed the troll.



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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 9:57:15 AM   
GreedyTop


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Is this guy back again? As soon as I started reading the thread, I recognized his B.S.


yeah, that was my first thought too.

I'm bored.

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 10:14:21 AM   
NiceButMeanGirl


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ORIGINAL: submaleuk12
I think the fact that you said those sites are close minded is a very close minded thing to say. Like the guy in the YouTube vid said a part of you splits, it's like saying someone wh is schizophrenic should act out in tht way as it's his natural inclination.


Yet in both cases it's only their due to trauma, or a splitting in a persons emotions.


If youve no wish to change that's great but people like me and I see myself as a forward thinking person have.

That's all fine & dandy that you think I'm closed-minded but the thing is I really don't care. YOU are the one who charged in here on a BDSM website asking for a cure for BDSM and " help to recover from BDSM."

As for a traumatic experience or splitting of emotions, I have no idea WTH you are talking about. My emotions are not split and my interest in BDSM has nothing whatsoever to do with a supposed traumatic experience. I feel more mentally healthy now than I've ever felt in my entire life before and I like it. Just because YOU have an addictive personality, it does NOT mean we ALL do.

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
quote:

ORIGINAL: submaleuk12

Where did I say other people can't choose for themselves?

Your putting words in m mouth by saying that, please don't generalise people like me and tell if it's aft ted me or not.

You pretty much did: you made it sound like that those of who are happy would change if we only knew the "truth"

I agree with OsideGirl. You pretty much charged in here and said flat out that BDSM is something we need to be cured of. You remind me of a religious zealot and, to that, I always say....religion(or whatever the issue is) is like a penis. It's great that you have one, it's great that you love it, it's great that you want to share, but please don't cram it down my throat.

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ORIGINAL: lizi

Busy guy aren't you?
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3954321/mpage_1/key_BDSM%252Cangry/tm.htm#3954685

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3492151/mpage_1/tm.htm

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4033164/mpage_1/tm.htm

he starts at post #36 and continues in through the thread
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3934101/mpage_1/tm.htm

It seems he can't get people to agree with ONE identity, so he uses multiples, to make it appear that he has fellow "believers." But we're onto him.

NBMG

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 10:34:40 AM   
EllenofTroy


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Status: offline 		You seem like a deep thinking fellow. Perhaps you should delve deeper within your psyche to see if you are indeed addicted to being thoroughly obnoxious, annoying, combative, whiney and perpetually seeking negative attention. You may find that bdsm is the least of your issues.

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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 10:36:25 AM   
GreedyTop


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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 10:41:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

LMAO!! Ellen SCORES!!


Yup, I think we need to keep Ellen.


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RE: Help to recover from bdsm.. - 3/21/2012 10:42:21 AM   
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