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ORIGINAL: Arienos

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deadbeat

If the male was a deadbeat he wouldn’t want to be shackled to years of support and therein it’s not logical to assume he would decline agreeing to abort. As to the one night stand, I think the underlining question is, did the one night stand reach a point to where you even knew his name...many impulsive sexual encounters never get to that degree of familiarization and the sire is just another blured immage in a host of blured immages.

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Don't you agree that if the man refuses to let a woman get an abortion (it sears my soul to write those words) he should have to prove up front that he has the wherewithal to pay for the kid?

Actually at that point he should be the one who gets the kid and raises it. After all, the mother didn't want it, so why would we make her raise it. Now as far as proving he is financially responsible. That would come after the law that makes women prove they can take care of the kid before she is allowed to carry it to term.

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Don't you agree that if the man refuses to let a woman get an abortion (it sears my soul to write those words) he should have to prove up front that he has the wherewithal to pay for the kid?

Actually at that point he should be the one who gets the kid and raises it. After all, the mother didn't want it, so why would we make her raise it. Now as far as proving he is financially responsible. That would come after the law that makes women prove they can take care of the kid before she is allowed to carry it to term.

fr to the rest of the thread
If there is a medical necessity for the abortion, then I doubt anyone is going to make the mother carry the baby to term. But don't let that stop you from bringing it up because someone out there might actually buy into that one. Kinda like the state that is going to make women carry dead fetuses in their wombs.

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I say the father should be able to abort any mother that aborts his child without permission.

If a man rapes a woman, and she subsequently gets an abortion - is the rapist justified in "aborting" her after serving his prison sentence for the rape?

Just want to see how far you will take your stupidity...

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I say the father should be able to abort any mother that aborts his child without permission.

If a man rapes a woman, and she subsequently gets an abortion - is the rapist justified in "aborting" her after serving his prison sentence for the rape?

Just want to see how far you will take your stupidity...

Rape is illegal, and non consensual, so most people would understand that a rapist wouldn't have parental rights, so the woman would be free to abort.

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

IASM, Im still wondering in the case of someone like me

Where having a child would kill me, Do I still need a permission slip?

If my partner refuses to sign it, am i required to do something that will kill me and the fetus because he says no?

Is he then on the hook for two counts of murder, because his decision caused mine and the childs death?

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I say the father should be able to abort any mother that aborts his child without permission.

If a man rapes a woman, and she subsequently gets an abortion - is the rapist justified in "aborting" her after serving his prison sentence for the rape?

Just want to see how far you will take your stupidity...

Rape is illegal, and non consensual, so most people would understand that a rapist wouldn't have parental rights, so the woman would be free to abort.

Not in con-land.......


You really don`t get it.......


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Criminalize women who have an abortion without the permission via written signature from the man who impregnated her

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Abortion Permission Slips from Men

And if you’re not fully convinced yet that Alaska is the next front in the GOP’s war on women, you just have to listen to State Rep. Alan Dick. He said in a House Health and Social Services Committee Hearing last week that he doesn’t believe that when a woman is pregnant, it’s really “her pregnancy.” As a matter of fact, he would advocate for criminalizing women who have an abortion without the permission via written signature from the man who impregnated her. He stated, “If I thought that the man’s signature was required...required, in order for a woman to have an abortion, I’d have a little more peace about it...” He didn’t say whether a rapist would be able to send his signature by fax from prison, or not. But he’ll have “peace” and women will require a permission slip for their own bodies To kill a child that someone else helped to create and may want.

With an exception for incest and rape, I support the idea that the man who had something to do with creating that life should have something to do with the decision-making about it. That's the responsibility that should be shoulder when two people agree to have sex.

Her body. Our child. Our choice.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I say the father should be able to abort any mother that aborts his child without permission.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Ridiculous on it's face...almost as ridiculous as some of the CM regulars who dropped in to add their own idiotic comments.
I don't know which is making me sicker,the ridiculous pieces of legislation being offered lately by assholic republican politicians or our own fucking idiots commenting on it.
This place is getting me sick

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In a perfect world I might be tempted to agree that the male involved should at least be involved in the decision. However, given that we don't live in a perfect world, probably not so much. And, like it or not, it's ultimately the woman who has to deal with the pregnancy...and historically they also seem to get stuck with the major portion of raising the kid too. I'm not saying that's fair, or even appropriate, but that doesn't make it untrue. Personally I would certainly wish that married couples or committed partners make the decision together...although I'm sure that doesn't happen enough. Like it or not, birth control (in all aspects) has largely been dumped in the lap of the women...well, except for the GOP who seems to think the party of rich old white guys knows more about such things that all the women in the world put together.

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Things are getting *very* nutty that side of the pond. Wow.

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I say the father should be able to abort any mother that aborts his child without permission.

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I say the father should be able to abort any mother that aborts his child without permission.

Ah! So now we come down to the nitty-gritty: you advocate resolving political issues with murder! I've said it before and I say it again: the Radicals are a clear and present danger to this nation.
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