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xssve -> RE: Abortion Permission Slips from Men (3/23/2012 8:59:49 AM)
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ORIGINAL: tj444
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ORIGINAL: SlipSlidingAway
However, I have to say that I am appalled at what is happening here in America surrounding women's fertility and the push to legislate and criminalize it. I read some of this stuff and I can't believe that it's 2012 in the United States. It's nuckin' futs! I was thinking through some of this stuff the other day and I know one of the proposed laws would make it crime to miscarry if a woman was found to have contributed to the risk. So, would this mean that women with medical conditions, older women, and those with known genetic predispositions criminally liable if their bodies naturally aborted a pregnancy?
It is actually happening now tho.. this is just one case..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/15/woman-attempted-suicide-pregnant-accused
Well there are natural abortificants, celery is one: an infusion of celery can induce a miscarriage. The upshot of the argument that back alley abortions would take the place of legal abortion finally hit home apparently, only now they're just trying to close the loopholes in anticipation of overturning Roe v. Wade.
Yeah, w/regard to SSA's comments, electoral political strategy is such at the moment that 15 to 20% of the population is able to hold the other 4/5th's hostage to their millennial theology, with much effort having been put into gerrymandering that into an imaginary general consensus.
So far, everytime they go overboard like this, they drive the middle back to the middle, I think Santorums recent antics probably killed his chances at the nomination, Romney's seen as the more rational candidate, but I kinda doubt he'll stand up to the Elders when push comes to shove.
Either way it's bad news for reproductive rights, depending on which way SCOTUS goes when it comes to upholding this sort of politicking. The FIRE sector already pretty much has carte blanche when it comes to economic policy, so if the pubs win, by consensus or fraud, we're looking at Bush II redux, or deja vu all over again.
Since the domestic economy, and to some extent a good portion of the world economy, is being floated on a raft of US consumer credit/debt, just like the government is being floated on a sea of Chinese capital, I imagine and underlying fear is that there won't be enough indebted consumers to keep the CDO's and other derivatives flowing.
With the failure of the last ditch republican Petrocrat ploy in Iraq, the Petrodollar itself is on borrowed time, and in times of stress people turn to the supernatural, so a lot depends on when the bottom drops out and how far, hard to say what a big oil shock on top of everything else would do.
Although, I don't expect that to happen soon, given that, as I say, American consumerism is huge prop to the global economy, another bucket of cold water now wouldn't be in anybodies best interests.
But at best, we might get 4 more years to try and consolidate an energy and economic policy that doesn't end in Armageddon before they get a chance to undo it all again.
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