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The reason is fairly simple: no one can honestly say that abortion is not an emotionally gut-wrenching experience for the woman undergoing the procedure. It may not be that day or two weeks later but, at some point, the woman is going to experience some kind of emotional agony over her decision.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I know my position is far from popular but a woman/girl who has never undergone an abortion should, at least, have the abortion explained to them in some detail; as people undergoing just about any other procedure seem to insist upon. This seems to be the one area where a patient wants to hear less from their doctor instead of more. I wonder if there's a reason for that. Of course there is.

The reason is fairly simple: no one can honestly say that abortion is not an emotionally gut-wrenching experience for the woman undergoing the procedure. It may not be that day or two weeks later but, at some point, the woman is going to experience some kind of emotional agony over her decision.

If we removed the word "abortion" from the argument and described the heartbreak and damage done by this action and then, explained that doctors should give less information to the patients about to undergo it, there'd be all kinds of out-cry. Instead, we have people who disregard the humanity and pain sensory ability of the un-born life in question because it helps them sleep better at night.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

at home tests can run up to 10 dollars in some areas. plan b costs up to 50 dollars

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ORIGINAL: From the above link

Morning-After Pill (Emergency Contraception) at a Glance

Birth control you can use to prevent pregnancy up to five days (120 hours) after unprotected sex
Two kinds of emergency contraception — morning-after pill and IUD insertion
Safe and effective
Available at health centers and drugstores
Costs vary from $10 to $70 for the morning-after pill and up to $500 for IUD insertion

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ORIGINAL: From the above link

In-Clinic Abortion Procedures at a Glance

Medical procedures that end pregnancy
Safe and effective
Available from many Planned Parenthood health centers
Costs about $300–$950 in the first trimester

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet
The problem isn't that your position is "far from popular".  The problem is that your position is breathtakingly ignorant.

I am going to go out on a limb here, and assume that you have never had an abortion.  What is the basis for your knowledge that the procedure is not explained in some detail?  I had an abortion when I was younger, and I remember the process being described in excruciating detail.  In these days of informed consent laws, I seriously doubt that has changed.  But, if you have info to the contrary, let's hear it.  While you are at it, perhaps you can explain how an ultrasound contributes to "knowledge of the procedure."

Unlike you, apparently, I don't believe I can speak for all women, or even all women who have had abortions.  I can assure you that I did not "experience some kind of emotional agony" about the decision, EXCEPT for the agony of pushing my way through anti abortion protesters waiving pictures of dead fetuses in my face.  Just because you say something is true, doesn't make it so, you know.  So, since you are obviously all knowing about both women and mental health, perhaps you can explain the basis for your rather extraordinary statement that "the woman is going to experience some kind of emotional agony over her decision."

Since you seem to believe that only a woman has never undergone an abortion needs to have the procedure explained to them in some detail, do I get a bye on that, since I have already had an abortion?  What if the woman is basically not interested in the information, and just wants to get the damn thing out of her?  Does she have to sit through a tutorial also?

I forgot, you are all knowing in the medical field also.  Perhaps you could explain the basis for your statement regarding the "pain sensory ability of the un-born life."

Since you believe that the father should have a veto power in the decision to abort, do you also support my idea that in doing so, he needs to post a bond or similar proof of his financial ability to support a child?  I don't know about you, but particularly when I was younger, I would have had better things to do with my time than chasing down some deadbeat every month for a child support check.  If I was forced to carry a child and then raise it because I couldn't get "permission", I would want my money up front.  Agreed?

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I know my position is far from popular but a woman/girl who has never undergone an abortion should, at least, have the abortion explained to them in some detail; as people undergoing just about any other procedure seem to insist upon. This seems to be the one area where a patient wants to hear less from their doctor instead of more. I wonder if there's a reason for that. Of course there is.

The reason is fairly simple: no one can honestly say that abortion is not an emotionally gut-wrenching experience for the woman undergoing the procedure. It may not be that day or two weeks later but, at some point, the woman is going to experience some kind of emotional agony over her decision.

If we removed the word "abortion" from the argument and described the heartbreak and damage done by this action and then, explained that doctors should give less information to the patients about to undergo it, there'd be all kinds of out-cry. Instead, we have people who disregard the humanity and pain sensory ability of the un-born life in question because it helps them sleep better at night.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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It may not be that day or two weeks later but, at some point, the woman is going to experience some kind of emotional agony over her decision.

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ORIGINAL: ShibsStories

That is not to far to check out.
The PP I go to has never had any protests I know of.
A part of me is a bit in denial that there can really be so many people doing such awful things- and believing in them.
I hear about it all the time online and tv, but would be interesting to check it out in person.

Doesn't the pictures on posters count as harassment or some other legally prosecutable offense?

The whole issue just makes me so angry.

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I don't understand with the advancement in "technology" how a woman, bent on infanticide could possibly need 24 weeks to find out that she's pregnant and then to decide (since it seems most already have) that abortion is their chosen course of action. There are at-home OTC pregnancy tests that are reliable after ... what ... 72 hours? 120? 168? I just saw a commercial for "plan B", the other night on television. Isn't that good enough or do we really need to wait until that life is capable of feeling pain before we rip its head off with a doctor's noose?

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According to multiple studies, including one in 2005, scientists generally agree that fetuses can’t feel pain until well into the third trimester after 24 weeks. The 2005 study suggests 28 weeks. Abortions after 24 weeks are already allowed to be limited by states under the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision made by the Supreme Court. But since most abortions occur prior to 24 weeks anyway, Proud really doesn’t have a case.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

maybe everyone who has an operation because of their choice, should have to see what happens during "their operations"
Maybe not get pain killers, and be made to see the result of their drunken drives car crash did to the body of a twenty year old. or stay awake while the doctor breaks their leg and resets it with pins and plates. Maybe a man should be made to see what the internal organs of his wife look like after he impregated her
This cupid stunt needs to see what her own lobotomy looked like...

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
I say the father should be able to abort any mother that aborts his child without permission.