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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 2:35:24 AM

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we've taken being beat and tied up and controlled and made those positive things..so why not a word?

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 4:13:23 AM

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When any one calls me "Sir", I ask if they spell it S I R or C U R

As long as they do not spell it Kur IronBear it is ok, lol.

Actually i find that people that resort to name calling (not speaking of the term slut between slave and owner, much like your girl i am happy and proud to be their slut) lack the intelligence or imagination to think up a really clever sarcastic statement or are simply espousing their own inadequacies.

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 2:40:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

When any one calls me "Sir", I ask if they spell it S I R or C U R

As long as they do not spell it Kur IronBear it is ok, lol.

Actually i find that people that resort to name calling (not speaking of the term slut between slave and owner, much like your girl i am happy and proud to be their slut) lack the intelligence or imagination to think up a really clever sarcastic statement or are simply espousing their own inadequacies.

ok so like espousing .. is that getting married on E-bay and she is now your espouse ...

ok ok . I slay me sometimes ... that was really funny to me

please laugh ... ok someone laugh here it wasactually kinda funny . I'll take a giggle .. come on give me a break

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 2:40:59 PM

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all are different, and i can't say why the terms "whore" or "slut" may or may not be endearing to others in the lifestyle. however speaking for myself, my Master calls me slut and whore because that is precisely what i am. we don't believe in role play of any sort, which includes calling names and saying things that aren't really true. so he calls me slut because technically, i am. i'm promiscuous and indiscriminate about partners. He calls me a whore because that is what i have been at some point in life and may be again whenever he decides to go that route again. so they are not "pet" names for us, he is just calling me what i am. however he is proud of what i am, so he says the words with love and pride always. perhaps to some in the lifestyle and out, there is something wrong or bad about being a slut or a whore, but to him, it's something rare and precious.

btw, other Dominants we interact with irl also refer to me as slut or whore, and both my Master and myself find it to be very fitting and not at all offensive.

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 4:25:45 PM

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why is it that in this life style beeing called a whore or a slut is a good thing. I have had many prespective Doms call me that as terms of endearment and it turns me off completly why do such nasty words have to be used as per names in this life... think of what the words me and I know I am neather of them. I dont sleep around or show off my body in fact Im shy and yes I am a real life virgin. I Hate beeing called these things and I dont get why Doms feel it is nessesery. I am like the most monogamus person ever and I dont get why one would call me these things that I am so aparently not??

please someone clarafy this need for me

i think, like the majority of BDSM, the attraction is that it is faux pas. Personally, there's nothing more that i like than my Dominant grabbing my hair and whispering sweet nasties in muh ear. But i know many many submissives who do not feel that way. However, if this is your choice, not to be referred to that way...i would recommend that you state it as an outright limit in your profile. Since it is, in fact such an uncommon limit, just be sure to communicate exactly why you feel that way and things should be hunky dorey.

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 6:23:38 PM

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Im sorry I dont get it thats all I just dont understnad

Your profile lists spanking as something you 'live for'. Spanking is corporal punishment... a negative reinforcement.

How can you 'live for' a negative reinforcement?

Use the same logic you applied to spanking in order to make the mental transition from bad to good regarding slut.

Example: The slut needs a good spanking...

An added benefit is sounding kinkier than... The sub needs a good spanking... or... The slave needs a good spanking... or... The switch needs a good spanking...

In addition it is a term of endearment that applies across roles with equal meaning and understanding.

Spanking is very good... slut is very good... so, spanking the slut good is very very good!!!

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 7:18:54 PM

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Like I said I know in this life slut is seen as a term of endearment I just want to know why we have taken on such a nagatively conotative word on as a good thing. We should be above that!! I just dont get it

In my opinion, any word has only the meaning we give it. A word itself is simply letters arranged in such a manner so as to create something we call words. You find being called a slut or a whore a negative thing. Others in this lifestyle do not. It's that simple. Because you feel negative about certain words does not make it a fact that the words and their significance are actually negative. It's all a matter of opinion dear.

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 7:42:17 PM

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Im stupid lets just leave it at that and drop this thred

Sadly, it appears she left to pout, and won't learn the answer to her question. It's too bad. Good responses.

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 7:42:43 PM

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nagatively conotative word on as a good thing.

Personally I do not comprehend the negative connotations you refer to. A very good friend once told me that a "slut" is a woman who has accepted and acts on her natural sexual appetite....so where's the negativity in that.
A slut is a woman who behaves sexually in a manner more normally associated with men, a slut is a woman who doesn't pretend she doesn't have the natural sexual urges that we all (or almost all) have.
To my way of viewing the world, "slut" is a compliment.

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 8:04:18 PM

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Clearly its all about the internal association with the word. Many different circumstances can make a word either positive or negative to a person.

For instance, lets say a girl is raped in a dark alley and the assialiant called her "girl" while he raped her. She will most likely always dislike that term, assuming the rape was a negative experience for her..

It all about the stimuli the person is feeling when a word is used that makes them either love it or not.

My ex husband called me a whore when he was pissed off at me. Since I cant stand him or the context it was used in, I do not want to be called a whore in a Ds relationship. Im not crazy about slut either. but I can see where some people find this arousing.

On the other hand, there was this wonderful man that I knew years ago...I had a great respect for him, as a Man and as Dominant....We were never really involved, but flirting one day, and he grabbed me by the hair, pulled me in close and whispered "cunt" in my ear. As if to call me a cunt. Because I was stimulated (in a good way) by *him* and by his touch, while being called a cunt, I grew to love the word cunt. I would not feel offended for a potential dominant to say to me "get on your knees , cunt". But to hear "get on your knees whore" would bug me. So, like everything else in human nature, its about how each person processes it for themselves.

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 8:06:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: Vancouver_cinful

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ORIGINAL: enigmabrat

Im stupid lets just leave it at that and drop this thred

Sadly, it appears she left to pout, and won't learn the answer to her question. It's too bad. Good responses.

aw cripes. And right after I typed out a whole big thing.

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 8:10:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: lilamazon

we've taken being beat and tied up and controlled and made those positive things..so why not a word?

lmaoo. good point

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 8:47:23 PM

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One more comment...we take Webster at his word and start with slut being a promiscuous woman. Why is that negative ? It is not, it is a beautiful state of being...Why accept the vanilla conotation as negative...that's their problem. To me, if anybody can be a slut then we all can be sluts.
Calling somebody, almost anybody and particularly a stranger on the net a whore is a pejorative, and is insulting but within the proper play and with the right timing, it can be a compliment to either sex. I know women and men that if they could be a whore, would be a whore and may well brag about it.

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/6/2006 10:52:44 PM

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that's just it. It's not negative to those of us who like it. Negative is only what you make of it.

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Im not looking down on people that like it Im just trying to understand how a negative term could be used possativly

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RE: whore slut?? - 6/7/2006 3:50:09 PM

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something you might help[ful in understand is another phrase

" One persons junk is another persons treasure"

what you might see as a negative others might see as a posititve .. it's all in the eye of the beholder .. or in this case thelistener and speaker ... hope this clear up the air

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RE: whore slut?? - 7/14/2006 11:34:29 PM

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Spankings are not coperal punishment to me NastyDaddy, you might think so but I happen to delight in spankings for pleasure.

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ORIGINAL: enigmabrat
Im sorry I dont get it thats all I just dont understnad

Your profile lists spanking as something you 'live for'. Spanking is corporal punishment... a negative reinforcement.

How can you 'live for' a negative reinforcement?

Use the same logic you applied to spanking in order to make the mental transition from bad to good regarding slut.

Example: The slut needs a good spanking...

An added benefit is sounding kinkier than... The sub needs a good spanking... or... The slave needs a good spanking... or... The switch needs a good spanking...

In addition it is a term of endearment that applies across roles with equal meaning and understanding.

Spanking is very good... slut is very good... so, spanking the slut good is very very good!!!