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Bhruic -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 5:56:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: strangedesire

The ladyfriend has a "Whangee Cane" from these folks. It feels lovely in my hand. She seems to love hating it.


Awesome. Thanks for the link :)




kalikshama -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 6:20:30 AM)

I took a look at this clip (and the images around it) and am also wondering if the marks are real: http://mood-pictures.com/affpromo/lomp1/

I can't see vanilla girls getting that done for real.




mnottertail -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 6:39:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

The 4' butt section of an old bamboo flyrod with the stripping guide removed makes a lovely cane.



(or so I hear) [:D]


ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH.  YOU FUCKING HEATHEN!!!!!

Send your bamboo flyrods to me goddammit, I will buy you a chunk of whipping stick in trade.......good lord, that is just.......tacky to do that to a fine old bamboo flyrod......




Longerthanyou -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 12:58:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama
I took a look at this clip (and the images around it) and am also wondering if the marks are real: http://mood-pictures.com/affpromo/lomp1/


I generally frequent the xhamster site so I googled for the keywords to find this.
http://xhamster.com/search.php?q=dr.+lomp&qcat=video

Seems fake to me.




fucktoyprincess -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 1:39:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

I took a look at this clip (and the images around it) and am also wondering if the marks are real: http://mood-pictures.com/affpromo/lomp1/

I can't see vanilla girls getting that done for real.


I am not into caning myself, maybe others can comment on this, but the marks do not look real to me. And if they are, they actually seem a little excessive for porn. Some of the marks look like marks that would take a considerable length of time to heal - not good if you are trying to make your living as a porn actress. Just saying...




NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 2:22:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kitkat105

Maybe you should get caned and then you'll understand exactly what 'tap tap tap' means. [;)]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. When I was a sub I got caned one time. ONCE. I safeworded.

NBMG




Endivius -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 2:43:36 PM)

I recently took 100 cane strokes, 50 flogs with a nylon cat tail, and 35 strokes with a wooden paddle for a local event challenge. My bruises and marks were pretty nasty looking. Didnt hurt anywhere near as badly as it looked. The next morning it was so black you woulda thought the skin had been burned. I suspect you guys are cringing at the visual because you haven't actually experienced the sensation.




Bhruic -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 2:52:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

I took a look at this clip (and the images around it) and am also wondering if the marks are real: http://mood-pictures.com/affpromo/lomp1/

I can't see vanilla girls getting that done for real.


Yup, looks real. You can actually see the raising of the welts... and its pretty much impossible to pretend to hit that hard. I've worked on films with special makeup effects before... if that's makeup, its academy award winning makeup.

People will do a lot for money... and I don't think there is cause to presume they are vanilla girls.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 2:52:53 PM)

It's been my experience that a fleshier butt can take more w/o serious, harmful damage, but wow, that's a lot. And yeah, I can imagine it looked terrible.

I like bamboo canes myself, though I am not really a cane lover on either side of the kneel.




Bhruic -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 2:58:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

I took a look at this clip (and the images around it) and am also wondering if the marks are real: http://mood-pictures.com/affpromo/lomp1/

I can't see vanilla girls getting that done for real.


I am not into caning myself, maybe others can comment on this, but the marks do not look real to me. And if they are, they actually seem a little excessive for porn. Some of the marks look like marks that would take a considerable length of time to heal - not good if you are trying to make your living as a porn actress. Just saying...


I have pics of my girls ass with marks just like that (not so many of them tho) and it does take about a week to a week and half to heal. Canes leave deep red welts with dark red abrasions bordering on bloodletting, and deep purple fringe, and they do that without much effort. It is not hard to draw blood with a cane if you are not careful.

I will admit tho, that photography seems to accentuate the marks... especially if they ramp up the chroma and saturation in post production... which to my mind isn't exactly faking it.




Bhruic -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 3:03:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Endivius

I recently took 100 cane strokes, 50 flogs with a nylon cat tail, and 35 strokes with a wooden paddle for a local event challenge. My bruises and marks were pretty nasty looking. Didnt hurt anywhere near as badly as it looked. The next morning it was so black you woulda thought the skin had been burned. I suspect you guys are cringing at the visual because you haven't actually experienced the sensation.


Exactly. I was in a pillory at a club once way back, and a very skilled mistress when to work on my ass for about 40 minutes. She knew I had never done it before so I think she was taking it pretty easy on me, and I didn't get the cane... I found it a very tantric experience, and she masterfully kept me just under my personal threshold of pain (which was probably not terribly high as a first time). Still my ass was black and blue and angry looking for over a week afterwards.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 3:08:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

The 4' butt section of an old bamboo flyrod with the stripping guide removed makes a lovely cane.



(or so I hear) [:D]


ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH.  YOU FUCKING HEATHEN!!!!!

Send your bamboo flyrods to me goddammit, I will buy you a chunk of whipping stick in trade.......good lord, that is just.......tacky to do that to a fine old bamboo flyrod......

It was a cracked one I got on EBaY for $20. no worries.




fucktoyprincess -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 4:31:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Bhruic


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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

I took a look at this clip (and the images around it) and am also wondering if the marks are real: http://mood-pictures.com/affpromo/lomp1/

I can't see vanilla girls getting that done for real.


I am not into caning myself, maybe others can comment on this, but the marks do not look real to me. And if they are, they actually seem a little excessive for porn. Some of the marks look like marks that would take a considerable length of time to heal - not good if you are trying to make your living as a porn actress. Just saying...


I have pics of my girls ass with marks just like that (not so many of them tho) and it does take about a week to a week and half to heal. Canes leave deep red welts with dark red abrasions bordering on bloodletting, and deep purple fringe, and they do that without much effort. It is not hard to draw blood with a cane if you are not careful.

I will admit tho, that photography seems to accentuate the marks... especially if they ramp up the chroma and saturation in post production... which to my mind isn't exactly faking it.


Okay, I stand corrected. I just hope these actresses were fully informed of what they were getting into ahead of time. I mean leaving that amount of marks all over someone's body (the kind of marks that take significant time to heal and that can leave permanent scars) is something I truly hope is discussed up front. I understand they are porn actors and I understand people will do almost anything for money, but people need to know what bargain they've made, especially for people who make their money off their body (a lot of bruising and scarring cannot be good for business).




Pyramus -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 5:29:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess
I just hope these actresses were fully informed of what they were getting into ahead of time.


If it's actually real, I suspect they have a "trial period" where they give the gal a dozen (or whatever) can strokes. If she can't take it, they fire her (so to speak). If she can take it, then they sign her up for the full fifty strokes. (I admit, I watched a few of the vids in the linkeys above ... yummy yummy.).

At least that's what it looks like when I ran a search for http://tubegals.com/search/?q=casting+mood&submit=Search

I must say, it was highly erotic seeing these vanilla gals give up after a few hard strokes. I'm fascinated it's so interesting how my BRAIN enjoys things that I'd never even think of doing in real life. Now I'm scared about myself! :)





kitkat105 -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/2/2012 6:45:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl


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ORIGINAL: kitkat105

Maybe you should get caned and then you'll understand exactly what 'tap tap tap' means. [;)]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. When I was a sub I got caned one time. ONCE. I safeworded.

NBMG


Hehehe Yes, the cane provides an excellent dose of reality & psychological impact even for someone who enjoys pain. [:)]




SaintJohn -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/4/2012 8:53:35 PM)

This epitomizes the tap tap tap
http://xhamster.com/movies/891592/scottish_slut_takes_severe_tit_caning.html




strangedesire -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/5/2012 6:50:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SaintJohn

This epitomizes the tap tap tap
http://xhamster.com/movies/891592/scottish_slut_takes_severe_tit_caning.html


Ah, I see. It's an experience thing. You're thinking that because he isn't pulling back his arm to swing, he isn't really hitting her. Canes don't work that way - it's in the speed of the stroke, not the distance the cane travels to the target.

He's actually hitting her hard enough to leave welts, and on very sensitive skin. Also, he's hitting her very quickly, and often in the same spots, which is going to drastically increase what she actually feels. It's hard to tell, without knowing her experience level and how she processes pain on her breasts, but I'd guess that hurts like a bitch.

I've heard someone refer to this as "American-style" caning, as opposed to the "British style" six of the best. This was an internet thing, though - in real life I hear them both referred to as "motherfucker, ow."




ResidentSadist -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/5/2012 7:24:18 AM)

I tap or pat when spanking or caning. It's my way of counting it down for the recipient. 1 tap... 2 tap... 3 whack! It lets them warm up mentally. I don't tap for 3 minutes though. I think that is reserved for mute poly slaves with 8 slave sisters that are daughters of police sheriffs in Kentucky . . . or however that "tap tap tap" story went.

(Seriously, if anyone reading this doesn't know the "tap tap tap" story about domination of a slave through Morse code, it is a must read for sure. Someone got a link? I can only fing the repost on Ron's birthday.)





warlock1935 -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/5/2012 3:21:00 PM)

This particular scene is what's usually called Tattoo Caning. If you define simple cane strokes into light, medium, hard, and savage, TC involves rapid, continuous light strokes to a small area for a more or less extended period. If you have good aim, and you're feeling really sadistic, or are in a hurry to hear screams, you hit the exact same spot. It's a fun technique, but it takes a little patience. At first, it feels like "Fluffy" caning to the bottom, but even with light strokes the area will start getting more and more sensitive. That means that although you haven't increased the power of the stroke - it's still light - it starts to hurt like hell. Keep it up long enough and you'll break her, guaranteed. (I don't mean into little pieces, I mean mentally)
One of the classic legends of the Harem is the punishment of a concubine via a very fiendishly oriental combination of Bastianado and Tattoo Caning. Starting early in the morning, guards would strip the miscreant, force her face down on the floor, bend her legs up at the knee and lock her ankles into a set of low, horizontal stocks so her soles were facing up. Next her neck would be locked into the other end of the stocks, preventing her from twisting around and interfering with the process.
Note that she was otherwise completely unfettered; even her hands weren't fastened in any way.
Two other slave girls were then given light canes, ordered to sit on the floor, one on each side of the victim's feet, and to cane her feet very lightly but continuously.
The Master would assign a guard to make sure the two slave girls kept at their task and didn't goof off, rotating them with another pair periodically. And then?
Why, he would just leave and go about his business.
Several hours later, usually after lunch, he would take a leisurely stroll down to the dungeon for a visit. Here's the spectacle he'd see:
- a guard leaning against the wall, and with a businesslike manner supervising:
-two bored slave girls reluctantly but steadily and industriously administering the same rapid, continuous light cane strokes, one caning her right foot, the other the left and:
- one Miscreant, stretched out on the floor bound only by her ankles and neck, and:
- the punishee alternately screaming and pounding her fists on the flagstones; begging the other two girls to stop; screaming and thrashing around; imploring the guard to stop them; screaming and tearing her hair out; offering the girls and the guard any sexual service they could think of if only they'd stop; screaming and beating her fists fruitlessly against the padlocked neck stock; and earnestly promising to never, never ever again offend the Master in even the slightest, tiniest little way - EVER.
Satisfied that everything was going properly, the Master would stroll away again.
This would go on until nightfall.
What comes next for the victim was arguably the worst and most fiendish part - the two slaves would be dismissed, the guard would unlock the stocks and pick up the naked, exhausted, traumatized, pain-wracked girl, and carry her to;
- the master's bed, where her wrists would be loosely chained to the wall at the head of the bed, and where at his leisure the Master would rape her and make her perform all the most degrading sexual practices in the household sexual book; and where:
- her vigorous and dedicated service would be assured by being casually but frequently reminded that the procedure could be repeated the very next day if he wasn't completely satisfied with her performance...
The beauty of this method was that because the blows are light, it can be carried on for a long time without permanent damage; except for the soles of her feet, all of her is available, undamaged, to use and enjoy sexually, and she is able to perform almost all sexual acts unhindered by injuries; and the slave can also be put to work at any tasks that don't involve walking.

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ORIGINAL: SaintJohn

This epitomizes the tap tap tap
http://xhamster.com/movies/891592/scottish_slut_takes_severe_tit_caning.html




warlock1935 -> RE: Why do caners tap tap tap (on and on) anyway when caning butt? (5/5/2012 4:34:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess

Okay, I stand corrected. I just hope these actresses were fully informed of what they were getting into ahead of time. I mean leaving that amount of marks all over someone's body (the kind of marks that take significant time to heal and that can leave permanent scars) is something I truly hope is discussed up front. I understand they are porn actors and I understand people will do almost anything for money, but people need to know what bargain they've made, especially for people who make their money off their body (a lot of bruising and scarring cannot be good for business).


This is a really fun thread for me - I'm a Bondage Video Producer, BondageMaidens.com. Our real profile is on that other site , f...le dot com, under the same handle, Warlock1935. We've done over two hundred shoots in the last five years, and sold 130 + DVD titles all told.
Did they know what was going to happen up front? Good question. Short answer, If the videos had been shot here, yes, of course. Where they were actually shot, which I suspect was Russia, probably not - who knows? Remember, a lot of the countries in the former Soviet empire, including Russia, have no legal system whatsoever as we understand the term. So anybody with connections can pretty much do whatever he wants.
In this country, I've had submissives that could take that kind of caning if I'd wanted to administer it; I don't like bruises so I've seldom wanted to, and when I did it took a lot of warmup, a submissive who really wanted it, and a lot of work on my part helping her get through it. For example, a little oriental girl who was a play partner - her name was Sara - one day asked me to do a special caning on her. It seemed she was competing with another submissive for who could go Up The Ladder the highest.
Up the Ladder works like this: if you're going Up the Ladder to four, it's one stroke - pause, two strokes - pause - three strokes, pause and four strokes; then four strokes - short pause, three strokes - pause, two strokes - pause, and finally one stroke. Total = twenty strokes.
Now consider - to go Up to five adds ten more strokes, for a total of thirty strokes. See, the total goes up Geometrically as you add levels. With me so far?
OK - sara wanted to go to twenty-four! As if that wasn't enough, she wanted the strokes in each set Rapid Fire, meaning no pause between strokes, as fast as I could do them; and she wanted them full-force, clear from the ceiling, as hard as I could hit - and I'm six feet tall, with relatively long arms, so if I take the cane straight up with my arm fully extended (clear from the ceiling) and put the muscle to the swing and wrist snap, it's pretty damn hard.
It took her a bit to talk me into it, but finally I tied her to a table with a pad under her hips to elevate them, and went for it. As you might imagine, it's bad enough for the submissive on the way up; but human psychology being what it is, it gets to be intense mental torture when you're going down, reach twelve, and she still has - what? a hundred or so more agonizing strokes to endure on a swollen, black, bleeding, excruciatingly sensitive bottom. And make no mistake, the pain was getting worse with each stroke, not less; by that time she was getting a little confused and disoriented mentally, and it took all the empathetic Dom energy I had, and all the skills I'd acquired to help her get to the finish.
Sure, she was tied up, and by then she probably couldn't remember her name, let alone her safeword; but I could see she came really close a couple of times to wanting me to stop, and if I'd seen her reach that state of mind I'd have been morally and ethically bound to stop, whatever the consequences.
But for her to fail at that point after all that agony would have been emotionally devastating, and I hate to see a submissive fail even in small matters, let alone one as important to her as this was to sara. She'd have been a complete mental and spiritual train wreck.
It took a LOT of aftercare. Just the immediate aftercare took a lot longer than the caning did, and I wound up spending some time with her every day for a week before I was satisfied she wasn't going to get hit with SubDrop; but she had this quiet, peaceful and exalted look about her that you see on people's faces after they win a 10k.

I had to use a spreadsheet to work out how many strokes it was total - four hundred and change, as fast and hard as I could hit with a 34" Delrin cane. To this day I'm still astonished at the thought of all that courage shown by a five foot tall, 110lb, twenty year old little girl.
As a Dom I've spent well over twenty years of working to perfect my craft, and still to this day submissive girls just absolutely amaze me.




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