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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/8/2012 9:52:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: mummyman321

Aakasha and Marini,
I never said it was not hard work. I know it takes a very special skill set. So please do not try to put words in my mouth. I did not say or imply these things. I am sorry if you cannot handle longer intense scenes. If it is so taxing to wave your finger at the sub, I think you really need to give it up. Domination requires a little more than finger waving. If you cannot handle the heat, do not agree to do it in the first place.

You can try and twist my words all you want. Bottom line is the Domme and I had an agreement. She backed out of that agreement for her reason's. It is what it is. I am not trying to find fault or cast blame in this thread. I have tried to make this thread about how an experienced submissive can find an experienced Domme who plays at the higher levels.


lol
Many posters have offered you advice on HOW to find a Dominant who is willing to play at higher levels.
You have 3 pages on just how to "find" that person.

You can't dictate how people want to answer your questions.
Put on your very big boy rubber panties and deal.

Now if you can't take the "heat", get out of the kitchen.

Peace


Marini,
You might want to read some of my actual posts in this thread. I specifically stated that I did not expect an answer to solve me question but more to generate ideas for people who are in my situation.

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This is really the heart of what I wanted to ask. How does a very experienced person go find another person that has that type of skill set? And no I do not expect and answer that will solve my particular problem. Really just wanted idea generation for people that in a situation simlar to me. It is not as easy as just attending munches at local events. As you get older the pool so to speak to choose from gets much smaller. Add a particular fetish or two and that pool gets really small. I really had not thought of the large events. Its been a while since I did those things. Too bad I just missed this years NYC Rubber Ball. That event is really kick ass :)


And I also acknowledged that there were many good ideas here. I guess you missed those posts? Is reading too taxing for your incredible Domme skills? I do not want to overwork you now.

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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/8/2012 10:01:37 PM   
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lol

You are such a sweet and kind man.

mummyman321, You can't control what people write on a message board.

You certainly can't control what I read or write.

I suggest, you find a PROFESSIONAL DOMINANT that will agree to perform your desired "scene" with you!

Have a great day!




< Message edited by Marini -- 5/8/2012 10:05:25 PM >


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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/8/2012 10:59:23 PM   
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You certainly can't control what I read or write.

I suggest, you find a PROFESSIONAL DOMINANT that will agree to perform your desired "scene" with you!






No he can't and he can lead a horse to water...

I know mummy a little bit, he has no problem with going to a pro domme, that's not an issue, the issue is more that somebody agrees to something and then does a bait and switch, because they want a free holiday out of it. You know if something is agreed upfront, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to be honest, even or especially dominants.

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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/9/2012 4:51:43 AM   
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You certainly can't control what I read or write.

I suggest, you find a PROFESSIONAL DOMINANT that will agree to perform your desired "scene" with you!




No he can't and he can lead a horse to water...

Nor can a leopard change her spots.

I know mummy a little bit, he has no problem with going to a pro domme, that's not an issue, the issue is more that somebody agrees to something and then does a bait and switch, because they want a free holiday out of it.

You know if something is agreed upfront, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to be honest, even or especially dominants.



I read mummy's OP several times, I also read 1-3 pages of advice, thought's, opinion's, etc.

Why don't you go back and read what happened?

I was agreeing with what AAkasha wrote, and I made a few comments to AAkasha.

poor mummy did not care for the comments which I addressed to AAkasha.
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I then proceeded to tell "poor" mummy that I can comment, respond, and make suggestions to posts made on message boards.

Have a great day!


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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/9/2012 6:01:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Marini

I read mummy's OP several times, I also read 1-3 pages of advice, thought's, opinion's, etc.

Why don't you go back and read what happened?

I was agreeing with what AAkasha wrote, and I made a few comments to AAkasha.

poor mummy did not care for the comments which I addressed to AAkasha.
.
I then proceeded to tell "poor" mummy that I can comment, respond, and make suggestions to posts made on message boards.

Have a great day!



Marini,
There you go putting words in my mouth again. So let me clarify for you. I did not say that I did not like you posts. You said that. I actually did like your post and Aakasha’s posts. I was laughing so hard last night I almost pissed in my pasts. The comment that waving a finger at a sub requires a lot of work on the part of the Domme was just absolutely hilarious! The two of you provided me with some great comical relief. I actually went and put on my rubber panties just to write the reply as you requested. I was going to post a pic for you but could not find the camera L Oh god I am still laughing at this. Thank you.

As for the reco for a ProDomme…again you failed to read what I had already posted. I am beginning to wonder if you read any of the other posts? I did say I was open to the ProDomme thing.

Let me also help you with reading between the lines. So I am meeting a Domme who is a latex loving Domme. She has a very nice latex wardrobe. She wants to see my latex wardrobe collection. She specializes in doing overnight bondage sessions in latex. And we discussed business opportunities within the BDSM lifestyle. You just might make the conclusion she is an experienced ProDomme?

But let us take your point a bit further if a ProDomme is the real answer. My question that I asked is still applies even if I go to a ProDomme and pay her for a session. How do you go about finding a ProDomme who has the advanced skill set I am seeking?




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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/9/2012 9:38:26 AM   
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:)
mummyman, I have always enjoyed reading what you have to say around
here.
Thank you for being kind and clearing this up.
I also enjoyed what AAkasha had to say, and I veered off a bit.

Let's shake rubber panties and move on.

Back to your question:
1. You can meet someone in one of the recommended ways,
and spend face time, prior to playing.
2. I think getting a personal recommendation from someone in the
community that you respect, that can put you in touch with a
Dominant with compatible interest and than moving forward is
is a great idea.
Don't forget to let us know how this works out for you.
Namaste mummyman

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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/9/2012 1:48:47 PM   
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First I want to thank everyone for replying to this thread. I do appreciate the feedback, the good, the bad and the in between. This always makes me look hard at all sides of the issue.

You might classify this as a just another sub looking for a Domme thread. I hope though you are able to see my point of view that it is just not that simple. I read the boards a lot and I have seen all the sub seeking Domme threads. There is always the resounding you need to go meet people in person, get to know them as a person. I know this is a must. I think if you are older/more experienced that task of finding a Domme to match your own wants/needs becomes much more challenging. The fact that most are married or have their steady sub is a fact of life. So the pool to choose from is smaller. Getting out and attending local munches is not always the answer or it least in my case. I think physical location also has a great impact on those possibilities. If I were in New York, things might be different versus Cincinnati.

Going to the large events is certainly an option to consider as Lady Pact suggested. This is okay but may not work for all. The large events can be cost prohibitive for some. If you live in Indiana, making it to LA might be stretching it. And the LA sticker shock might prevent a lot of people form doing this. Not an issue for me but wanted ideas others could use also.

I will need to investigate FL. I think they do a better job of posting events. I honestly do not spend a lot of time over there. I was never a real socialite to begin with so this is going to require a little work on my part to be more open going to events. I am going to need to dig around and actually find out what events there are anymore. I really have not traveled to events other than the NYC Rubber Ball event in over 15 years.

I do also want to thank hausboy and Mistress DarkArt for recommending to expand my horizons. I still cannot do the guy thing. Let me rephrase that statement. I could do the guy thing but it would not satisfy my itch. I can however expand possible opportunities in other ways. A location change is one change I can make if I choose. Being an Alpha sub to a Poly Domme is also another possibility. Starting up a dungeon again is also a possibility. And there are some others I will keep to myself for now. So hausboy and Mistress DA I am thinking about it.

The BDSM community has changed so much since I actively dated in lifestyle. I almost feel like a little kid again. The good news is I know one hell of a lot more today than I did back then. :)

Once again, thank you all for the posts. This was a great discussion, rubber panty handshake with Marini and all :).I will follow up with a couple other posts on this thread. Now that we discussed the main topic I want to revisit 2 topics that came up. 1) The topic of the ProDomme. I want say a little here. 2) The topic of why would I spend money or setup a date with a person I had never met in person before? I just want to share my point of view on these items.



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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/10/2012 1:28:46 PM   
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I said I wanted to continue on this thread and explain a few things on why I would meet a person and spend the weekend with them without ever having met them in person.

When I was 25 I traveled 2 days to drive from Cincinnati to Salt Lake city to meet a Domme. We had conversed for 6 months on an electronic bulletin board (Pre-internet, yes I am getting old and it sucks) and talked on the phone. I introduced her to rubber and she introduced me to pallet wrap. The agreement was I would spend a weekend and if we hit it off maybe longer. I ended up spending the entire summer with her. We had a wonderful time. And she is the one to blame for my mummification fetish by the way! She got me hooked on it.

Last year when a few us from the CM got together at 0ldhen’s house for Thanksgiving I offered to buy a plane ticket for someone so they could attend. I had never met that person before. I knew they did not have the money for the ticket so I offered to buy that person’s ticket via Oldhen so she could attend. Unfortunately she could not get off work and was unable to attend.

In the particular instance of this thread I was going to spend more money than I usually would for a weekend getaway variety of reasons. Mainly I had been working a lot of hours on the road for the past 4 months and I really needed a break. With or with BDSM involved I needed to go have a fun weekend and turn off my cell phone and forget about work. As it happens BDSM activities were planned as part of the Getaway. I was to get my day of bondage and she was to get served in the mornings and evenings when we were back in the room and teh rest just normal vanilla fun.

I sort of look at it this way. If the person I want to meet is 6, 10, 15? hours away or longer, do I really just want to meet them for dinner or lunch and leave? Why noy the day? Why not the weekend? If a person offered you a weekend getaway, offered you separate rooms, and you agreed on a variety of activities you both wanted to do, why not? Have you ever gone on a blind date?

There is always the possibility you meet and cannot stand each other. I see this risk at low having talked on the phone a lot but it could happen. You do have to talk that up front and agree if that happens you will each go your separate way. If you meet and spend the weekend together, there is still no guarantee that you will have chemistry between the 2 of you. If that happens I still got to meet someone in the lifestyle, talk, go out to dinner. I see it as a win no matter what.

I know some of you will not understand my logic (if you can even call it logic). I am not the most articulate person so I know what I have written still does not fully describe what is in my head. But I did promise I would try to explain it a little and now you have it. Life is short, I am getting older so you might as well enjoy what you have left :) Enjoy!





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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/10/2012 1:52:47 PM   
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I've been reading this thread and finally had to reply. I've had the pleasure of meeting mummyman in person on more than one occasion, and he's a great guy.

Also, his rubber ball suit is just plain awesome.

But I have to tell you OP, it's my opinion that an experience sub finds that great dom/me that can play at their level the exact same way the experienced dom/me finds the perfectly trained s-type: they make them.

Admittedly, it's easier for the d-type to "make" the s-type, but really what I am trying to say is that most d-types I know are going to want to work up to an intense 18 hour scene. I certainly would not be up to that straight out of the box, and I have as many years in the lifestyle as you.

It has less to do with the desire for that kind of intense play and more to do with the need, on both sides of the kneel, to get to know the person well enough that you can effectively carry that 18 hour scene off.

Sure, I could "dom" you for 18 hours, my question is, why would I want to? I don't know you well enough for that, and even numerous phone conversations would not prepare me for such a long session with you. I would need to spend 10-12 sessions before I knew enough about what made you tick and what we both enjoyed in terms of your responses before I'd be ready for that.

Now, I'm not a pro, and I do move slowly in the beginning. I'm all about capturing your mind and your soul; your body is a mere canvas I use to paint my deliciously sadistic masterpiece.

JMO, YMMV, yada yada


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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/10/2012 2:05:20 PM   
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It's true that even a play slut like me would have to work me way up into an all day scene...but really, what more convenient way to get to know someone than to have them as a "captive" audience? i guess it's just my play style, I like really long scenes as long as my lovely beverages are available.

I got nothing for ya, Mummy, other than what I previously said. I have taken those kinds of meeting "risks" many times, with only one disaster to date. It's a shallow pool as far as compatibility goes, why not make the effort and travel if you can? (Speaking generally there).

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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/10/2012 2:07:02 PM   
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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/10/2012 2:12:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mummyman321


quote:

ORIGINAL: Marini

I read mummy's OP several times, I also read 1-3 pages of advice, thought's, opinion's, etc.

Why don't you go back and read what happened?

I was agreeing with what AAkasha wrote, and I made a few comments to AAkasha.

poor mummy did not care for the comments which I addressed to AAkasha.
.
I then proceeded to tell "poor" mummy that I can comment, respond, and make suggestions to posts made on message boards.

Have a great day!



Marini,
There you go putting words in my mouth again. So let me clarify for you. I did not say that I did not like you posts. You said that. I actually did like your post and Aakasha’s posts. I was laughing so hard last night I almost pissed in my pasts. The comment that waving a finger at a sub requires a lot of work on the part of the Domme was just absolutely hilarious! The two of you provided me with some great comical relief. I actually went and put on my rubber panties just to write the reply as you requested. I was going to post a pic for you but could not find the camera L Oh god I am still laughing at this. Thank you.

As for the reco for a ProDomme…again you failed to read what I had already posted. I am beginning to wonder if you read any of the other posts? I did say I was open to the ProDomme thing.

Let me also help you with reading between the lines. So I am meeting a Domme who is a latex loving Domme. She has a very nice latex wardrobe. She wants to see my latex wardrobe collection. She specializes in doing overnight bondage sessions in latex. And we discussed business opportunities within the BDSM lifestyle. You just might make the conclusion she is an experienced ProDomme?

But let us take your point a bit further if a ProDomme is the real answer. My question that I asked is still applies even if I go to a ProDomme and pay her for a session. How do you go about finding a ProDomme who has the advanced skill set I am seeking?







Mummers...(I hope you don't mind I call you that, we have interacted little and I don't want to seem assuming...)

You know, I had heard of ProDomme's doing "interviews" prior to sessions, I can't see why that wouldn't be a possibility for you as well. I mean, if you are going to pay for any professional service, you should seek to get what you pay for; You wouldn't take your car to the first shop you came across, why would you sign up with the first Domme that says she can do what you want done with out speaking to her first? (not making the point that your B&B idea was too fast planned, obviously it was a good rate of speed...Almost a year in by the time you would have met, yes? Give or take anyway...)

Point is...you have the right to know who is doing what to you and if they are indeed qualified to give you what you want.

I would say sit down and think about things that a person with the required skill set would know...then make a list of questions so that anyone thinking of bs'ing you would quickly be discovered and weeded out.

Also, Cinici is how far from Louisville? I know L'ville used to have an awesome scene up there...and they were tied in with South Indy's group which was also pretty impressive.

On a personal note...

I think she's really jacked up for changing plans on you at the last minute. That sucks...and Im sorry for your disappointment. =(

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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/10/2012 2:15:41 PM   
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And 18 hours is really a loooooong time...I have to agree that it would be a build up thing, doll...Just cos...you don't want to just play with the body...you wanna play with the cranium too.

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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/10/2012 4:10:56 PM   
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I've been reading this thread and finally had to reply. I've had the pleasure of meeting mummyman in person on more than one occasion, and he's a great guy.

Also, his rubber ball suit is just plain awesome.

But I have to tell you OP, it's my opinion that an experience sub finds that great dom/me that can play at their level the exact same way the experienced dom/me finds the perfectly trained s-type: they make them.

Admittedly, it's easier for the d-type to "make" the s-type, but really what I am trying to say is that most d-types I know are going to want to work up to an intense 18 hour scene. I certainly would not be up to that straight out of the box, and I have as many years in the lifestyle as you.

It has less to do with the desire for that kind of intense play and more to do with the need, on both sides of the kneel, to get to know the person well enough that you can effectively carry that 18 hour scene off.

Sure, I could "dom" you for 18 hours, my question is, why would I want to? I don't know you well enough for that, and even numerous phone conversations would not prepare me for such a long session with you. I would need to spend 10-12 sessions before I knew enough about what made you tick and what we both enjoyed in terms of your responses before I'd be ready for that.

Now, I'm not a pro, and I do move slowly in the beginning. I'm all about capturing your mind and your soul; your body is a mere canvas I use to paint my deliciously sadistic masterpiece.

JMO, YMMV, yada yada


I totally agree the need to build up to the longer sessions. It takes time to be able to read your partner and how they are going to react. It takes time to know what buttons to push. You only learn that with time. And just not play time. Talking and learning about the individual. Playing with the body is easy. Getting inside their mind while playing with the body is key.

I am more than willing to take that time. I honestly do not expect 18 hours on a first meet. This particular getaway is not a good example as there was to be some long sensory deprivation which is not my norm for a first meet/play but no other play was expected with that.

You are right in that while a Domme maybe able to play 18 hours, that does not mean she wants to. So the key is finding those Dommes who enjoy going that far and start the courtship there :)

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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/10/2012 4:13:51 PM   
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It's true that even a play slut like me would have to work me way up into an all day scene...but really, what more convenient way to get to know someone than to have them as a "captive" audience? i guess it's just my play style, I like really long scenes as long as my lovely beverages are available.

I got nothing for ya, Mummy, other than what I previously said. I have taken those kinds of meeting "risks" many times, with only one disaster to date. It's a shallow pool as far as compatibility goes, why not make the effort and travel if you can? (Speaking generally there).


After being married so long I just did not have the desire to travel and date. But I think you are right and I need to change my mind on that. I am headed to Germany on Friday. Mainly for work but I have a side trip now planned :)

BTW - You still owe me a lunch date some day in Detriot!

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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/10/2012 4:26:05 PM   
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Mummers...(I hope you don't mind I call you that, we have interacted little and I don't want to seem assuming...)

You know, I had heard of ProDomme's doing "interviews" prior to sessions, I can't see why that wouldn't be a possibility for you as well. I mean, if you are going to pay for any professional service, you should seek to get what you pay for; You wouldn't take your car to the first shop you came across, why would you sign up with the first Domme that says she can do what you want done with out speaking to her first? (not making the point that your B&B idea was too fast planned, obviously it was a good rate of speed...Almost a year in by the time you would have met, yes? Give or take anyway...)

Point is...you have the right to know who is doing what to you and if they are indeed qualified to give you what you want.

I would say sit down and think about things that a person with the required skill set would know...then make a list of questions so that anyone thinking of bs'ing you would quickly be discovered and weeded out.

Also, Cinici is how far from Louisville? I know L'ville used to have an awesome scene up there...and they were tied in with South Indy's group which was also pretty impressive.

On a personal note...

I think she's really jacked up for changing plans on you at the last minute. That sucks...and Im sorry for your disappointment. =(


Call me anything you like just not late for dinner :)

You bring up a very good point. A lot of Dommes do not want to talk kink out of the gate. And I can understand why. Many guys are just trying to get their rocks off. I will insist talking BDSM interests fairly early on. Not specific act but more styles of play. If not the first meet then certainly the 2nd or within a few phone calls. I do not want to waste 6 months trying to court the Domme if my kinks are not kinks and vice-versa. I have had that happen. Get 6 months into only to have the conversation go, "I did think you were really serious about that." So for me it is very important to have the conversation early on. I guess it comes back to the old saying communication is key.

I am going to talk about ProDommes.....but I am goint to save that for later.

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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/10/2012 9:11:15 PM   
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Um. Chicago? Atlanta?

Isnt this the same old issue of making connections? I know plenty of folks who are heavy players--that doesnt make a bit of difference if they're not interested or vice-versa.

(Speaking of Cinti, do you know that venom2u dude?)


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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/11/2012 8:34:51 AM   
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The problem is that you're asking a hell of a lot out of someone you don't know to do a scene to your exact qualifications while she doesn't get anything out of it. She has to sit there watching you to ensure that you're safe for all those hours. She can't relax and nap, read a book, go for a walk outside.

This kind of thing needs to be done either by a pro who is willing to do this in exchange for money, or between partners in a caring relationship where one is willing to have a less than stellar day to make sure the other is happy.

You aren't in a relationship, so there's no reason for this woman to do all this just to make you happy when it makes her anything but. Really, you do best to ask a pro domme who you are a repeat customer of, to do this.

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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/11/2012 8:43:12 AM   
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Des, I disagree a bit, if somebody wants to try out a new toy desperately, maybe before she even makes the investment and purchases it herself (as it was in her specified line of interest) - I think she is getting something out of it, on top of it a really nice vacation - not for free but for giving up a few hours, seems like a fair deal to me.

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RE: What is an experienced sub to do? - 5/11/2012 10:05:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

The problem is that you're asking a hell of a lot out of someone you don't know to do a scene to your exact qualifications while she doesn't get anything out of it. She has to sit there watching you to ensure that you're safe for all those hours. She can't relax and nap, read a book, go for a walk outside.

This kind of thing needs to be done either by a pro who is willing to do this in exchange for money, or between partners in a caring relationship where one is willing to have a less than stellar day to make sure the other is happy.

You aren't in a relationship, so there's no reason for this woman to do all this just to make you happy when it makes her anything but. Really, you do best to ask a pro domme who you are a repeat customer of, to do this.


Des,
I said I would bring up the subject of the ProDomme earlier in the thread so now it a good time.

I have no problem paying a ProDomme for a session. I still have my friends who are in the business and they would do it for free as well as some friends from CM has made the offer as well. So if all I wanted to do was just try out a new toy, I have venues to make that happen.

Your words make it sound like the Domme was getting nothing out of the arrangement. I do not see it that way. She was getting a 4day/3night stay at a high end B&B. She and her girlfriend we getting spa treatments 3 of those 4 days. They were eating at a 4 star restaurants 3 of the 4 nights. Horseback riding, boating, and a whole host of other activates she wanted to do. She was getting everything she requested and more. I had 1 request. It would have been a hell of a lot cheaper to pay a ProDomme if that is all that I was after.

I did not provide a “do me” list of activities. I had no exacting specifications of what I wanted done to me as you put it. It was simply trying out a new toy. Once I was in the toy, what she did was up to her. And yes she would be able to read a book, watch TV, work on her laptop or play with her girlfriend, she just would not be able to leave the room for safety reasons.

Why would I do this with a stranger? Well were talking for 9 months so I did not see her exactly as a stranger anymore. Why not got see a ProDomme or ask a friend to help me out? You might think I was looking for a potential partner. She has a passion for latex, just like me. She specializes in overnight bondage scenes with latex and she wanted to see my equipment and she wanted to try some of it out. She has a nice business, I have nice equipment. We both have extremely busy schedules. So we decided to combine business and pleasure in a getaway weekend. It was a mutual decision.


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