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You did not read my statement. One type, the homosexual type will never lead to procreation. The other type, the heterosexual type does sometimes not lead to procreation.

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When children are adopted according to the UN declaration of Children's Rights, the children should be able to know both biological parents.

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ORIGINAL: Master2811

Such a decision can change and still lead to procreation whereas homosexuality never leads to procreation. You are trying to find the exception on the rule where the rule is pretty clear.

Who the fuck are you to say what is normal and what is not?
Who the fuck are you to presume to impose your moronic views on anyone?
Did god die and leave you in charge?
I must have missed the memmo

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ORIGINAL: Master2811

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: Master2811

Such a decision can change and still lead to procreation whereas homosexuality never leads to procreation. You are trying to find the exception on the rule where the rule is pretty clear.

Who the fuck are you to say what is normal and what is not?
Who the fuck are you to presume to impose your moronic views on anyone?
Did god die and leave you in charge?
I must have missed the memmo

I have the right to form my own opinion based on studies, facts and wisdom. I have a democratic right to find something normal and something else not normal. Because I am an adult I also have the right to vote in elections. I vote those people into office who mostly agree with what I think is normal. If you want to talk about God, His position seems pretty clear to me. I don't have to be in charge. There is no memo. If I were as unpolite as you debating this matter I could come up with the same rethoric you used in your paragraph, but I choose to keep myself from debating in such a manner. Welcome to our western democracy.

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Do you find the millions of women who chose to be child-free to be "unnatural?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childfree#Statistics_and_research

...Overall, researchers have observed childfree couples to be more educated, more likely to be employed in professional and management occupations, more likely for both spouses to earn relatively high incomes, to live in urban areas, to be less religious, to subscribe to less traditional gender roles, and to be less conventional.[13] Economist David Foot of the University of Toronto concluded that the female's education is the most important determinant of the likelihood of her reproducing. The higher the education, the less likely she is to bear children.
In 2003, a U.S. Census study found that a record 19% of U.S. women age 40–44 did not have children (compared with 10% in 1976). Being childless was considered bizarre in the 1950s.[14] [15] In 2004, a 2004 U.S. Census study found that 18.4% of U.S. women age 35–44 were childless.

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You are trying to find the exception on the rule where the rule is pretty clear.

Whose rule is this, by the way?

Try biologic rule. A homosexual relation will never lead to procreation. Heterosexual relations can lead to procreation. Therefore homosexual- and heterosexual relations are not equal, not in a million years.

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Very nice! The higher people get educated the more likely the human race is goint to extinct. Me thinks at least a balance in procreation and dying of people is more preferable to our species. Or you might one day wake up in a world where there are way to less younger people taking care for the elderly, no? Or do you suggest a mass euthanesia of older people then?

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Are you sure you are not more concerned with an issue of morality rather than an issue of biology?

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Flat tax cures this.

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Are you sure you are not more concerned with an issue of morality rather than an issue of biology?

As usual you have percieved the eye of the storm.

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I have nothing against gays/lesbians/bisexuals in person. I am not a homofobic person. What they do in their bedrooms is their business. But I will never consider a homosexual relation equal to a heterosexual relation. It is not equal because it can never lead to a normal pregnancy or procreation.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Very nice! The higher people get educated the more likely the human race is goint to extinct. Me thinks at least a balance in procreation and dying of people is more preferable to our species. Or you might one day wake up in a world where there are way to less younger people taking care for the elderly, no? Or do you suggest a mass euthanesia of older people then?

We already have a non-replacement birth rate in the West. That's why immigrants are tolerated.

Also, have you noticed that with the industrialization of agriculture large families are no longer needed on our farms?

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The key element to debate isn't gay marriage or straight marriage...it's the idea that the government should be involved in the marriage business at all.

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For me the arguments against it is that it is not natural

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Immigrants will only help temporarily if they also get higher education in western countries, no?

We don't need at least a balance in procreation and dying of people because of farms, but to maintain a civil world in general.

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Why argue it any further than this?