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proudsub -> RE: Atkins diet (5/25/2004 8:12:54 PM)

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10 pounds! It's a freaking miracle! LOL!


Great job ShadeDiva!!




MsDawnbbwdomme -> RE: Atkins diet (5/26/2004 3:27:41 AM)

I started Atkins the beginning of Nov 2003 & by the end of Jan... I had dropped from OVER 504lbs down to 377lbs. I say it works. I starting getting Depo shots for birth control in early Feb and have not been able to lose since so I went off the strict Atkins but still try to not eat pasta, reg bread and other high carb foods and I have NOT gained any weight back. As soon as we can afford Tim's vasactomy I will be off the Depo and back on Atkins full time. I know it doesn't work for everyone but for carb addicts like me it does. Blessings MsDawn




MsDawnbbwdomme -> RE: Atkins diet (5/26/2004 3:32:25 AM)

From my understanding Diet Rite is the recommended soda for Atkins. It is made with Splenda... I tried the grape YUCK, the orange BLAND and the Cola NOT BAD.... and stuck with the cola.... but if you are drinking alot of splenda sweetened beverages even that has stalled some people... much better to stick to a couple gallons of water a day which is suposed to flush the fat away. A great Low Carb site is lowcarbfriends.com Blessings MsDawn




MsDawnbbwdomme -> RE: Atkins diet (5/26/2004 3:38:25 AM)

It is true that some of us do have bowel movement problems and thankfully I have not been one of them. It tells on the Low Carb Friends website how to deal with that and other medical problems that could come up.
And on induction we try to stay at 20 carbs a day. Not zero. Blessings MsDawn
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ORIGINAL: sub4hire



Anyway, I've known people to do the atkins thing. They lost a lot of weight. A LOT. Its real hard for them to stay on it. I've read the atkins book. My Dom tried it last year. Did'nt have a bowel movement for two weeks. Then out of desperation and hemmoroids he got off of it.

If I recall correctly you are to have zero carbs for so many days. Which leads me to ask with all the new atkins products out there. They would actually make you gain weight would'nt they? If not doing the two week with zero prior?
This is something I've been wondering about lately.





MsDawnbbwdomme -> RE: Atkins diet (5/26/2004 3:49:17 AM)

Fitday.com is AWESOME.... great for any diet! You can track everything you eat, your exercise, your weight, etc. I also felt soooo much better on the induction phase... thanks for reminding me! I have fibromylgia syndrome, & bad knees... I was just about bedridden when I started the diet... I was tired and weak all the time. To me even though I am no longer losing the diet was and is a Godsend. If you have yahoo messenger feel free to im me anytime via dawnspet. Blessings MsDawn
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ORIGINAL: ModeratorOne

I will start off by saying I am not going to get into an argument over the Atkins way of eating on this board. I went on the internet and started doing research, I found a few wonderful low carb message boards that I subscribed to and read daily to this day. I created an account at www.fitday.com to track everything I was eating and I decided to really give it my full 110%

The first 3 days I felt like death, on the 5th day I felt like a million bucks. Every part of me felt alive.




MsDawnbbwdomme -> RE: Atkins diet (5/26/2004 3:56:26 AM)

I have to say that is NOT necessarily true! My doctor had me on a 1000 calorie aday LOW FAT diet and I kept gaining weight! And no I did not cheat.... everyone's body is different and LOW CARBS are the ticket for me NOT LOW CALORIES... when I dropped 120 lbs in less than 3 months I was eating between 2100 to 3100 calories a day. And I am proud to say my cholesterol, blood pressure, etc was WONDERFUL. Blessings MsDawn PS Bacon is full of preservitives which Atkins advises you limit and pork rinds holds water in the body which can stall you so I don't eat either but on rare occasions same as lunch meats.
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ORIGINAL: iwillserveu

No offense, Moderator One, but were you trying to lose weight? If so your weight loss is here:

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Total caloric intake 1538


I’m not a doctor, but your diet looks extremely healthy. I doubt many follow after eating a slab of bacon because it was good for them.

Go to Subway and see the ad for their new Atkins friendly wraps, however... Bacon, cheese, and egg are not healthier than broccoli, tomatoes, and lettuce.

I’ll say again that despite having little or no carbs, pork rinds are not a good diet food. Beer despite only having 2.2 carbs, is not a diet drink. Because they have heard how few “carbs” are in say, pork rinds, many will not hesitate to eat the whole bag. That is not an attack on you. You eat healthy.




MsDawnbbwdomme -> RE: Atkins diet (5/26/2004 4:06:13 AM)

Hi, I HATE MOST COOKED VEGGIES, myself.. YUCK... but I do love salad.... I mostly eat Chicken Breast with the Skin crispy baked or broiled, salad and my allowed 3 to 4 ozs of cheese a day. Alot of people eat when depressed, bored or dehydrated. Try uping your water and grabbing maybe something healthier than junk food when you feel the need. Blessings MsDawn
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ORIGINAL: belongtoyou

The problem with me and dieting is this: i dislike MOST vegetables, do not beef or pork, and i am an emotional eater-meaning i eat whether i'm hungry or not.

i have no problems with going to the gym, walking, taking the stairs, i enjoy excercising...

So, perhaps it's not which diet is best for me to follow, (necessarily) but learning how NOT to eat when i'm not hungry, and stop eating when i get full.

i've not mastered this yet; any suggestions?

btw, i'm 5'7 at 198 lbs. (i packed on pounds while in college and haven't been able to lose them).

~rain~




ModeratorOne -> RE: Atkins diet (5/28/2004 6:33:35 AM)

Congrats on the weight loss for all of you who have been successful!!!

I have whey protein sometimes. I like the designer whey personally. I mix it with carb countdown milk sometimes and make some awesome shakes. I have also used it in baking. Adding it to some canned pumpkin with some butter, cream cheese, nutmeg, cinnamon, cloves, ginger, orange peel and some eggs. Mix it up well and bake and its a delicious breakfast!

I try and avoid the soy protein isolates, but I avoid most things soy anyway. Tofu or soy sauce once in a while, but on the whole I dont like to get a lot of soy in my diet and get enough from hidden sources as is.

I also only use olive oil, coconut oil, ghee or butter for cooking. On occasion I will use sessame oil in marinades and heat it up. I use oils like almond, avocado, walnut, flax etc. for salads.

I also take cod liver and borage oil daily.

I avoid oils like canola, corn, soybean etc. That have been refined, bleached and deoderized.

These oils oxidize very quickly and are usually at least somewhat rancid when purchased from the store and just get worse as time goes on. When subjecting these oils to high heats they oxidize and form free radicals even faster.

Rancid oils are characterized by free radicals—that is, single atoms or clusters with an unpaired electron in an outer orbit. These compounds are extremely reactive chemically. They have been characterized as "marauders" in the body for they attack cell membranes and red blood cells and cause damage in DNA/RNA strands, thus triggering mutations in tissue, blood vessels and skin. Free radical damage to the skin causes wrinkles and premature aging; free radical damage to the tissues and organs sets the stage for tumors; free radical damage in the blood vessels initiates the buildup of plaque. Is it any wonder that tests and studies have repeatedly shown a high correlation between cancer and heart disease with the consumption of polyunsaturates?32 (Pinckney, Edward R, MD, and Cathey Pinckney, The Cholesterol Controversy, 1973, Sherbourne Press, Los Angeles, 130; Enig, Mary G, Ph D, et al, Fed Proc, July 1978, 37:9:2215-2220) New evidence links exposure to free radicals with premature aging, with autoimmune diseases such as arthritis and with Parkinson's disease, Lou Gehrig’s disease, Alzheimer's and cataracts.33 (Machlin, I J, and A Bendich, FASEB Journal, 1987, 1:441-445 )



One other point I wanted to add is if you are going to be doing a lot of exercising, carbo loading isnt the answer, but you may want to have a few more carbs that day or eat some coconut oil. I know it sounds strange but coconut oil (pure unrefined stuff that tastes like coconuts, not the junk you buy at whole foods) will metabolize even faster than carbohydrates. The medium chain triglycerides are transported in the lymphatic system instead of the bloodsteam. They burn cleanly and are used up quickly for energy. This is one of the reasons so many studies show increased weight loss with coconut oil. Thats all aside from it being very healthy.

For more info about coconut oil check out www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com They have the best tasting coconut oil and freeze dried coconut I have ever tasted! The stuff is amazing! Plus its also great for your skin and hair!




proudsub -> RE: Atkins diet (5/28/2004 8:36:27 AM)

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I avoid oils like canola, corn, soybean etc. That have been refined, bleached and deoderized.

These oils oxidize very quickly and are usually at least somewhat rancid when purchased from the store and just get worse as time goes on. When subjecting these oils to high heats they oxidize and form free radicals even faster.


Thank you for the info. Canola oil is allowed on South Beach but now I think I will avoid it and stick with olive oil, especially Since the oil i've been using has been in my cupboard for about 2 years.[:'(]




ModeratorOne -> RE: Atkins diet (5/28/2004 10:39:16 AM)

If you are curious about canola here is a little bit of info.

http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/conola.html

here is a small quote concerning the processing of the oil

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Modern oil processing is a different thing entirely. The oil is removed by a combination of high temperature mechanical pressing and solvent extraction. Traces of the solvent (usually hexane) remain in the oil, even after considerable refining. Like all modern vegetable oils, canola oil goes through the process of caustic refining, bleaching and degumming—all of which involve high temperatures or chemicals of questionable safety. And because canola oil is high in omega-3 fatty acids, which easily become rancid and foul-smelling when subjected to oxygen and high temperatures, it must be deodorized. The standard deodorization process removes a large portion of the omega-3 fatty acids by turning them into trans fatty acids. Although the Canadian government lists the trans content of canola at a minimal 0.2 percent, research at the University of Florida at Gainesville, found trans levels as high as 4.6 percent in commercial liquid oil.24 The consumer has no clue about the presence of trans fatty acids in canola oil because they are not listed on the label.




Estring -> RE: Atkins diet (5/28/2004 9:58:35 PM)

There is a great product called Smart Balance. I use it for anything I would have used butter or margarine for. It tastes great, has no trans fatty acids, and actually promotes the development of good cholesterol. There is even a low fat version.




proudsub -> RE: Atkins diet (5/28/2004 10:23:12 PM)

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There is a great product called Smart Balance.


That's what is recommended for South Beach.




Estring -> RE: Atkins diet (5/28/2004 11:34:59 PM)

Now I see that a man is suing because he says that The Atkins Diet caused him to get clogged arteries and need an angioplasty. Lol. Lawyers are killing this country!




Sinergy -> RE: Atkins diet (5/29/2004 1:30:26 AM)

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It is true that some of us do have bowel movement problems


Edgar Cayce recommended eating a few almonds regularly as a means of correcting bowel movement problems.

Sinergy




ModeratorOne -> RE: Atkins diet (5/29/2004 7:56:02 AM)

If you have bowel problems you can try increasing your fiber.

I make a delicious flax nut bread with ground flax seeds.

You can also try adding flax seeds to your salads, just grind them up in a small coffee grinder, or they sell flax seed grinders if you want to get special lol.

Add more veggies. Your green veggies are loaded with fiber. Have some broccoli with cheese or butter.

Nuts are also a great way to add fiber.

I love coconut and macadamias. I also eat almonds pretty regularly and sometimes I will take pecans and roast them with a bit of butter and brush them with egg whites and a bit of cinnamon and splenda. They come out delicious!

I have heard of some people using smart balance. I have never looked at it or the ingredients. I prefer butter for numerous reasons I wont get into now lol, but to each their own here.

The law suit is another BS publicity stunt by PETA to try and scare people. PCRM is a front group for peta, and their only goal in life is to make everyone in the world some radical vegan. They have tried to pull stunts like this for years now. Always the Thursday before some long weekend too. Last time it was the thursday before Thanksgiving.

Of course these are the people who compared chickens in cages to jews in concentration camps and tell little kids that their mothers are murderers because they feed them meat.




MsDawnbbwdomme -> RE: Atkins diet (5/29/2004 9:36:51 AM)

What do you cook with coconut oil? How does it taste? Thanks Dawn
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One other point I wanted to add is if you are going to be doing a lot of exercising, carbo loading isnt the answer, but you may want to have a few more carbs that day or eat some coconut oil. I know it sounds strange but coconut oil (pure unrefined stuff that tastes like coconuts, not the junk you buy at whole foods) will metabolize even faster than carbohydrates. The medium chain triglycerides are transported in the lymphatic system instead of the bloodsteam. They burn cleanly and are used up quickly for energy. This is one of the reasons so many studies show increased weight loss with coconut oil. Thats all aside from it being very healthy.

For more info about coconut oil check out www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com They have the best tasting coconut oil and freeze dried coconut I have ever tasted! The stuff is amazing! Plus its also great for your skin and hair!




Estring -> RE: Atkins diet (5/29/2004 12:01:16 PM)

So PETA is behind that lawsuit? It doesn't surprise me at all. Yes, the head of PETA said a few years ago that there was no difference between the killing of 6 million Jews and the barbequeing of 6 million chickens. People are always fearful of the radical right, but to me the radicals on the left are just as dangerous. And just as ridiculous.




ModeratorOne -> RE: Atkins diet (5/29/2004 2:43:17 PM)

Yeppers. PETA is at it again.

I didnt mean a comment that was made years ago, I mean just recently!

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March 18th
BERLIN (Reuters) - An animal rights group said on Wednesday it would go ahead with a controversial advertising campaign that likens the slaughter of animals to the murder of Jews under the Nazis despite threats of a legal challenge.

Paul Spiegel, president of the Central Council of Jews, said he would ask prosecutors to raise charges of "inciting racial hatred" against vegetarian group People for Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) for the advertisements called "Holocaust on a plate."

PETA campaign coordinator Matt Prescott said he was aware of the council's views, but added: "We are not willing to end the campaign." He said he himself was Jewish.

The posters, due to be displayed in Stuttgart from Thursday and in 11 European cities at later dates, show pictures of battery hens packed into cages next to historic pictures of emaciated Jewish inmates in Nazi concentration camp bunk beds.

Stuttgart prosecutor Eckhard Maak was quoted Wednesday as saying PETA should think twice because German law foresaw fines or up to five years in prison for anyone found guilty of belittling or denying the Holocaust.

Maak said if the campaign went ahead "then you can expect the police won't shut their eyes," according to an advance copy of an interview due to be published in Thursday's Berliner Zeitung newspaper.

Spiegel earlier told the newspaper the Jewish council would press charges if the campaign was launched. He has urged PETA to drop the "disgusting" adverts, saying they were "a violation of human dignity, especially of the Holocaust victims."

PETA officials say the posters are designed to raise public awareness of what they call the maltreatment of animals before they are slaughtered.


Pretty scary!

They do this all the time. And worse!


Here is the Atkins Centers response

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Press Release Source: Atkins Health and Medical Information Services

Statement on PCRM Activities From Atkins Nutritionals, Inc.

Thursday May 27, 10:52 am ET

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040527/nyth093_1.html

NEW YORK, May 27 /PRNewswire/ -- The following is a statement from a spokesperson for Atkins Nutritionals, Inc.:

Atkins generally doesn't comment on litigation. But in this case, we must pose some questions before this story gets out of hand. Even today's New York Times article raises the possibility that, as the science certainly would suggest, this case has no merit. Further, PCRM and the complainant suggest that the lawsuit is just for publicity. We should not let the real issue, providing people with a scientifically validated nutritional choice in the face of a worldwide obesity and type 2 diabetes epidemic, be manipulated by this extremist animal rights vegan group.

PCRM, a well-known extreme vegan and animal rights group, has a long history of initiating these kinds of scare tactics that are designed to convince the American public to stop eating animal protein of any sort. Furthermore, PCRM has been featuring Mr. Gorran and his various allegations on its website for quite a while. It has been reported publicly that PCRM has been investigated by Justice Department and the American Medical Association.

We have to ask some questions here: Why does anyone take PCRM seriously and allow this group, with its' animal rights agenda, to divert us all from the real enemy: the obesity and diabetes crisis in this country? Why is PCRM, an organization with less than 5% of its membership actual physicians, even viewed as a legitimate participant in the nutrition debate? Shouldn't the nutrition discussion be focused on science? Atkins was asked for science and for three years we've been delivering it. So faced with science and fact, PCRM has retreated to scare tactics.

Why isn't the nutrition debate focusing on the comments from Harvard's Dr. Walter Willett, one of the world's leading nutrition experts, who recently said that after reviewing all the science on low carb (and these are all studies that followed Atkins protocols), "We can no longer dismiss very-low- carbohydrate diets." Or why aren't we focusing on the words of Dr. Sylvan Weinberg, MD, MACC who in a recent article published in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology, called for medical professionals to recognize the validity of low-carbohydrate/high-protein diets like Atkins in the fight against heart disease. Dr. Weinberg asserted that it is no longer reasonable to accept or endorse on faith alone the superiority of the low-fat, high- carbohydrate approach to coronary health. And why isn't this discussion including science conducted by Harvard, Duke, University of Pennsylvania, The National Institutes of Health and even the American Heart Association?

As always Atkins stands by the science that has repeatedly reaffirmed the safety and health benefits of the Atkins Nutritional Approach. As recently as last week, two new studies were published in the Annals of Internal Medicine confirming the safety and benefits of Atkins as well as demonstrating, even when compared to low fat diets, that Atkins provides improvements in major cardiovascular risk factors. These findings repeat what has been consistently and without exception seen in 25 other studies over the past three years

PCRM and its cronies do a great disservice to the cause of good health in this country by repeatedly manipulating the media to confuse and mislead the American public.
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Source: Atkins Health and Medical Information Services



I think I am more afraid of the radical left than right. In fact I had a discussion with a friend not long ago about the safety of Antonin Scalia. I really felt that some radical left nutcase would have gone as far as trying to kill him.

Either way I dont want to turn this thread into a political discussion. I tend to be middle of the road leaning more to the right anyway.


http://www.consumerfreedom.com/ If you want to read more about PETA/PCRM you can check out that site.




ModeratorOne -> RE: Atkins diet (5/29/2004 3:01:50 PM)

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What do you cook with coconut oil? How does it taste? Thanks Dawn


What dont I make with coconut oil lol

I love the stuff! I use it in my baking. I use nut flours a lot like almond and pecan flour. I make a great chocolate coconut almond cake! Coconut oil is actually solid where I live (nyc) because of the climate here. In warmer climates its a liquid oil. Some call it coconut butter since its solid. I just call it oil. Much simpler.

I also cook chicken and fish in it. Sometimes for a coconut chicken taste, and sometimes just instead of olive or some other cooking oil. I love making salmon with coconut and macadamia nut crust and I will rub the salmon in coconut oil first to help the crust stick on better.

I get coconut oil from www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com its the best I have ever tasted and never sees high temperatures. You can taste the quality in the oil. Its a very mild flavor. It smells and tastes like coconuts. It has a faint sweetish taste and very creamy.

I use it as a lip balm sometimes and I can taste the sweetness (keep in mind I dont have anything sweet often so I am super sensitive to anything sweet) I have actually just eaten the coconut oil on its own before. It really tastes great!

Other coconut oils that I have tried, including the spectrum oils taste nasty and gritty. Some have tasted like plastic or even smelled gross or had no smell. A good coconut oil should smell and taste like the fruit.




Estring -> RE: Atkins diet (5/29/2004 6:53:48 PM)

Wow. That is scary. This is what happens when the truth or a good idea (treating animals humanely) gets subverted by an agenda. And let's not forget, Adolph Hitler was an animal lover and vegetarian. He just hated Jews. But loved chickens.




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