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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
I think you are getting into some philosophical territory here. There might need to be some sort of social contract where the people of a society pay for the technology. I suppose the closest today is government owned utilities but again they cost a vast amount to develop and maintain. Taxes go into them and still people have to pay their bills for said utility. I feel that doesn't lend credence to the theory you advance over what Tesla was talking about. You culd retort that companies would have been mostly private in Tesla's time, and that would be true but again he wouldn't be any stranger to what was truly involved in harnessing naturally available technologies like water to drive turbines etc. YMMV as always!

Sure in the shit system we have today, since commercial interests rule and set true science back 100's and if this shit continues thousands of years.

Wires are strung down every road and huge coal burning and dangerous nuclear reactors that get destroyed and spew radiation all over us are preferable.

How foolish is it to say that a damn coil of wire and some metal plates in oil are high cost high maintenance! What a crock of shit.

ya build it tune it and walk away. done.

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ORIGINAL: Aim2Plea
Anyone who claims Nikola Tesla's theories were bogus needs their head checked.

Nikola Tesla invented and perfected the light bulb. He worked under Thomas Edison. Edison owned the patent for the lightbulb due to contract. Edison was an idiot who knew business. He also had no idea how to give credit to others.

Nikola Tesla was the reason that we have the massive electrical grid we do instead of everyone having their own individual generators. You can thank AC current for that. Tesla's idea.

Radio? Tesla. Not Marconi. "You'll notice they still give out "Marconi" awards instead of "Tesla" awards.

Long range wireless energy transfer? Tesla. Not "discovered by students at MIT."

Dynamos used in hydroelectric dams? Tesla.

The list goes on.

But that's not really the point of the thread, is it?

The point is about gasoline.

I suggest you read back over the thread before checking your own. Actually the topic of the thread was the claim Tesla's wireless transmission system and free energy worked.

Firstly it is ridiculous to dismiss Edison as an "idiot" who was good at business.
He was an electrical idiot and wanted to sell an inferior system simply so he could make shit loads of money, just like you want to keep an inferior system even when this superior system is proven to work.

Note that no one on here said Tesla was not a great inventor,
followed by all your fucking unsubstantiated buts and put downs, when the fact is that Tesla was one of the greatest humanitarians that ever graced this planet
and he was given due credit for a number of important inventions.
Like DUH! They had no choice simce he has over 800 patents on record that were NOT sold and they all work, pick any one of them and build it and they ALL fucking work, every damn one of them!
BUT of course that is meaningless to you, since you are only interested in bashing rather than givein credit where credit is due.
You could also make some effort to check some of your "facts". The competing alternative was not individual power generators, neither did Tesla have a role in the invention of the light bulb.
sure he did, he invented the single node bulb, you only need one wire going to it because the environment completes the circuit and you can see him with many flouescent bulbs in his hands that GE patented 40 years later LOL Get a fucking clue already.He did not invent the dynamo - that credit goes to Faraday - he received patents for some applications of it.
more bullshit he invented the high frequency dynamo. LOL get a clue already None of his work was in isolation.
the hell it wasnt he was a private inventor and like all other private inventors that are not tenured or franchised they are destroyed by your ilk who happily burns peoples labs down to insure commercialism and slave labor rather than pursuit of the arts.His AC power system, improvements to radio, more bulshit, marconi used 17 of teslas patents before he could transmit a fart LOL fuck you are uninformed.and development of the AC motor as an alternative to the DC were done on the backs of a lot of related inventions. on thebacks of? Huh? All science is progressive and that can be said for anyone except of course theoretical physicists who never invented a god damned thing or maybe a lame assed refrigerator, hey but you believe that asshole with no proof of anything because that asshole was tenured dontcha. we know your game.His AC system won out over the DC equivalent due to the prior invention of the transformer, which allowed high voltage low current AC transmission lines to go great distances. Finally you concede to that one 100 posts after I crammed it down your throat, well hang around more to come.Thus his most impressive work remained within the paradigm of 19th Century science, for which he was admired at the time. oh yeh hell that work is worthless now since its the SAME damn designs we use to power EVERY DAMN THING WORLD WIDE, that shit was yesterday and has NO PLACE in todays modern world. damn I never seen such lame shit in my life as the trash you post After innovating AC transmission, he went off the grid a few years later with wireless power transmission, a technology that would be more fitting to the 22nd Century. Thus it does not follow it must work because his prior work was good.

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Tesla

This [S'] is my oscillatory circuit. That [S] is the transformer from which the condenser was charged. Here [at S] we had 20,000 volts, or whatever it was, from the commercial transformer and here [at S'] is my secondary which generated the high frequency currents. The rotary gap is shown in detail [Diag. 2 of Fig. 34].

I had a special reason for showing this. To meet that great man Helmholtz and other scientific men, and to bring before them for the first time the results of years of previous labor, was an important moment in my life—particularly because Professor Helmholtz gave me the assurance himself that what I explained to him was realizable, provided that I could produce the apparatus. I was very much encouraged.

Figure 35.
Apparatus with mechanical break as installed on a large scale in the laboratory at South Fifth Avenue and subsequently at 46 East Houston Street. Described in U.S. Patent No. 645,576 of March 20, 1900. Application filed September 2, 1897.


This [Fig. 35] is the apparatus I had at 35 South Fifth Avenue and also Houston Street. It shows the whole arrangement as I had it for the demonstration of effects which I investigated.

This cable you see [square loop in top half of Fig. 35] is stretched around the hall. These are my condensers. There is the mechanically operated break, and that is a transformer charged from the generator. That is the way I had it for the production of current effects which were rather of damped character because, at that period, I used circuits of great activity which radiated rapidly. In the Houston Street laboratory, I could take in my hands a coil tuned to my body and collect 3/4 horsepower anywhere in the room without tangible connection, and I have often disillusioned my visitors in regard to such wonderful effects. Sometimes, I would produce flames shooting out from my head and run a motor in my hands, or light six or eight lamps. They could not understand these manifestations of energy and thought that it was a genuine transmission of power. I told them that these phenomena were wonderful, but that a system of transmission, based on the same principle, was absolutely worthless. It was a transmission by electromagnetic waves. The solution lay in a different direction. I am showing you this [diagram] simply as a typical form of apparatus of that period, and if you go over the literature of the present day you will find that the newest arrangements have nothing better to show.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

One benefit for R0's Tesla car is that all that ionising electromagnetic energy will keep the passengers nice and toasty!

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Yeah just another excuse to post more of your copy and paste horseshit, which I have edited out. Once again you are strawmanning. Well established scientific understanding points out that there are NO longitudinal electromagnetic waves in free space.

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This is, essentially, a circuit of very high self-induction and small resistance which in its arrangement, mode of excitation and action, may be said to be the diametrical opposite of a transmitting circuit typical of telegraphy by Hertzian or electromagnetic radiations. It is difficult to form an adequate idea of the marvelous power of this unique appliance, by the aid of which the globe will be transformed. The electromagnetic radiations being reduced to an insignificant quantity, and proper conditions of resonance maintained, the circuit acts like an immense pendulum, storing indefinitely the energy of the primary exciting impulses and impressions upon the earth of the primary exciting impulses and impressions upon the earth and its conducting atmosphere uniform harmonic oscillations of intensities which, as actual tests have shown, may be pushed so far as to surpass those attained in the natural displays of static electricity. ~Nikola Tesla

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It shouldn't take a hundred years to get that done.  Done.

You are the kind of guy that could write the book, 'Does Hydrogen or Oxygen Even Look Like Water?: Disrobing the Frauds in Chemistry'.  That nobody would bother reading. 

Other than that, you don't belong in scientific, physics, mathematical, legal or any discussion where actual transmission of information may occur. 

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

The Electro Magnetic Spectrum is not gonna carry your electricity when and where you want it in the organization you want it in.

First off, the entire World Gubfia cannot afford such transmitters (were they possible, which they ain't----that pesky magnetic shit they always tack onto the electro part), and the second reason will be left as an exercise to the reader (here's a hint, it is embedded in the first one, using these things >>>> '( )').

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Now, you are talking about using this electromagnetic radiation (some spectrum of it) as a carrier for distribution globally. This concerns me, the very air we breath lit up with billions of volts flying around in great williwaws, and forcing everyone on the planet to be encased in a good foot of rubber from head to toe, never mind forget television, radio, cell phones, or any form of communication and the impossible task of retrofitting the electrical wire and switchgear in your house to withstand such a bizzare state of affairs.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Sure I showed you that it is qa 110 volt 100 watt bulb and I showed you the 1/8th inch ++ arc too and the video.


here is the arc:




here is the rating;




Its even safe underwater;



here he holds it in his fingers and no shock






Light, The Tesla Way-01 - TMT 72.4 Scale



BUT I DONT GET A SHOCK EXPLAIN WHY Mr WIZARD?






How about you ana ax whatever explain why there is not shock ZIPPO NADA when lighting a 110 volt 100 watt bulb and touching the electrodes?

More electromagnetic non mechanical voodoo maybe huh?

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

EVERYTHING TELSA, UNLIKE SHITENSTEIN, everything tesla did was EMPIRICAL, do you even have ne fucking clue what that means?

No you do not. It means if you build ANYTHING TESLA DESIGNED EXACTLY THE WAY HE DESIGNED IT, IT WILL WORK.

Don't know who shitenstein is, but empirical does not mean what you say it means here.
If you mean Einstein, all his work was empirical.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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Tesla
This [S'] is my oscillatory circuit. That [S] is the transformer from which the condenser was charged. Here [at S] we had 20,000 volts, or whatever it was, from the commercial transformer and here [at S'] is my secondary which generated the high frequency currents. The rotary gap is shown in detail [Diag. 2 of Fig. 34].

I had a special reason for showing this. To meet that great man Helmholtz and other scientific men, and to bring before them for the first time the results of years of previous labor, was an important moment in my life—particularly because Professor Helmholtz gave me the assurance himself that what I explained to him was realizable, provided that I could produce the apparatus. I was very much encouraged.

Figure 35.
Apparatus with mechanical break as installed on a large scale in the laboratory at South Fifth Avenue and subsequently at 46 East Houston Street. Described in U.S. Patent No. 645,576 of March 20, 1900. Application filed September 2, 1897.


This [Fig. 35] is the apparatus I had at 35 South Fifth Avenue and also Houston Street. It shows the whole arrangement as I had it for the demonstration of effects which I investigated.

This cable you see [square loop in top half of Fig. 35] is stretched around the hall. These are my condensers. There is the mechanically operated break, and that is a transformer charged from the generator. That is the way I had it for the production of current effects which were rather of damped character because, at that period, I used circuits of great activity which radiated rapidly. In the Houston Street laboratory, I could take in my hands a coil tuned to my body and collect 3/4 horsepower anywhere in the room without tangible connection, and I have often disillusioned my visitors in regard to such wonderful effects. Sometimes, I would produce flames shooting out from my head and run a motor in my hands, or light six or eight lamps. They could not understand these manifestations of energy and thought that it was a genuine transmission of power. I told them that these phenomena were wonderful, but that a system of transmission, based on the same principle, was absolutely worthless. It was a transmission by electromagnetic waves. The solution lay in a different direction. I am showing you this [diagram] simply as a typical form of apparatus of that period, and if you go over the literature of the present day you will find that the newest arrangements have nothing better to show.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
F.R. it seems Tesla was talking http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1932-09-11.htm about electromagnetic longitudinal waves (AKA scalar waves) if this article of his is any proof:

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The so—called Hertz waves are still considered a reality proving that light is electrical in its nature, and also that the ether is capable of transmitting transverse vibrations of frequencies however low. This view has become untenable since I showed that the universal medium is a gaseous body in which only longitudinal pulses can be prop­agated, involving alternating compressions and expansions similar to those produced by sound waves in the air. Thus, a wireless transmitter does not emit Hertz waves which are a myth, but sound waves in the ether, behaving in every respect like those in the air, except that, owing to the great elastic force and extremely small densi­ty of the medium, their speed is that of light.

Note he contrasts air with ether which was a term substituted for a vacuum in bygone days. He describes these waves as being like sound waves (longitudinal) but running at the speed of light, and presumably (judging by the text) travelling through a vacuum unlike material waves.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
One benefit for R0's Tesla car is that all that ionising electromagnetic energy will keep the passengers nice and toasty!

your usual complete horseshit

EMR is reduced to less than 10% completely opposite of the shit you spew as fact.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Yeah just another excuse to post more of your copy and paste horseshit, which I have edited out. Once again you are strawmanning. Well established scientific understanding points out that there are NO longitudinal electromagnetic waves in free space.

so whats up with that? every time you accuse me of strawmanning you either red herring or strawman, is that your new propaganda strategy?

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None of his work was in isolation.
the hell it wasnt he was a private inventor and like all other private inventors that are not tenured or franchised they are destroyed by your ilk who happily burns peoples labs down to insure commercialism and slave labor rather than pursuit of the arts.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
If you think the earth is not a wire then hold onto one of the hot sides of your 220 volt outlet while standing on the ground barefoot.

Then if you have any friends have them film it for us so we can all watch you go up in smoke. LMAO

The earth isn't a wire. I suggest you familiarise yourself with the word http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wire which in this context is:

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1. A usually pliable metallic strand or rod made in many lengths and diameters, sometimes clad and often electrically insulated, used chiefly for structural support or to conduct electricity.

The fact that electricity goes to earth does not automatically make it an excellent conductor. It is merely the effects of potential difference, with the near-zero potential of earth being an excellent sink for excess energy, which is why it is used for the mains.

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the ground is not a wire, with the implication its non-conductive, where do you people dig that incredible nonsense up from anyway.

No one said it is non-conductive. Some patches may be OK depending on the materials present in the earth but overall it is a regarded as a poor conductor.

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no one is arguing that an electromagnetic wave is NOT predominately transverse. Tesla testified in court that he is working with predominately longitudinal waves.

A scientist saying something inside or outside a court cannot be regarded as proof when he is making a claim that goes against well established scientific understanding.

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so are you claiming that this wave does not exist?

This is a strawman where you mix the very different wave types together. I already drew a clear distinction between sound waves and electromagnetic waves. Sound waves are mechanical waves. They are longitudinal. Electromagnetic waves are very different http://www.physicsclassroom.com/mmedia/waves/em.cfm in their nature. They have not been shown to ever be longitudinal in free space, despite all of Meyl's efforts, and established theory precludes them. Thus it is fair to strongly doubt the existence of Tesla's scalar wave.

and of course it does not matter, hell it didnt even cross your mind that there are HORN ANTENNAS



that out of some mysterious wierdness just happen



to propagate precisely the same way as



horns used on a damn stereo.

you make me laugh though.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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None of his work was in isolation.
the hell it wasnt he was a private inventor and like all other private inventors that are not tenured or franchised they are destroyed by your ilk who happily burns peoples labs down to insure commercialism and slave labor rather than pursuit of the arts.

Oh so I am now as bad as the people who supposedly burned down poor Tesla's lab! You really are batshit insane, you've completely lost the fucking plot!

BTW Tesla worked for a while for Edison but as per usual you miss the fucking point. My point was that his most worthwhile work which yielded good inventions was done under the 19th Century paradigm of science, where he took the inventions of others and made them better or applied them differently. It was when he went off the plot talking about 22nd Century sounding wireless energy and extracting energy from the cosmos etc. that people stopped taking him seriously.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
hardly!

as usual you are trying to sell dumb ass as intelligent.

Tesla did, last time I check he qualified as a some "one". LMAO

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Firstly it is ridiculous to dismiss Edison as an "idiot" who was good at business.
He was an electrical idiot and wanted to sell an inferior system simply so he could make shit loads of money, just like you want to keep an inferior system even when this superior system is proven to work.

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Note that no one on here said Tesla was not a great inventor,
followed by all your fucking unsubstantiated buts and put downs, when the fact is that Tesla was one of the greatest humanitarians that ever graced this planet

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and he was given due credit for a number of important inventions.
Like DUH! They had no choice simce he has over 800 patents on record that were NOT sold and they all work, pick any one of them and build it and they ALL fucking work, every damn one of them!
BUT of course that is meaningless to you, since you are only interested in bashing rather than givein credit where credit is due.

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You could also make some effort to check some of your "facts". The competing alternative was not individual power generators, neither did Tesla have a role in the invention of the light bulb.
sure he did, he invented the single node bulb, you only need one wire going to it because the environment completes the circuit and you can see him with many flouescent bulbs in his hands that GE patented 40 years later LOL Get a fucking clue already.

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He did not invent the dynamo - that credit goes to Faraday - he received patents for some applications of it.
more bullshit he invented the high frequency dynamo. LOL get a clue already

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His AC power system, improvements to radio, more bulshit, marconi used 17 of teslas patents before he could transmit a fart LOL fuck you are uninformed.

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and development of the AC motor as an alternative to the DC were done on the backs of a lot of related inventions. on thebacks of? Huh? All science is progressive and that can be said for anyone except of course theoretical physicists who never invented a god damned thing or maybe a lame assed refrigerator, hey but you believe that asshole with no proof of anything because that asshole was tenured dontcha. we know your game.

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His AC system won out over the DC equivalent due to the prior invention of the transformer, which allowed high voltage low current AC transmission lines to go great distances. Finally you concede to that one 100 posts after I crammed it down your throat, well hang around more to come.

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Thus his most impressive work remained within the paradigm of 19th Century science, for which he was admired at the time. oh yeh hell that work is worthless now since its the SAME damn designs we use to power EVERY DAMN THING WORLD WIDE, that shit was yesterday and has NO PLACE in todays modern world. damn I never seen such lame shit in my life as the trash you post After innovating AC transmission, he went off the grid a few years later with wireless power transmission, a technology that would be more fitting to the 22nd Century. Thus it does not follow it must work because his prior work was good.

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BULLSHIT!

You are once again stretching your bullshit to the point of a LIE.

EVERYTHING TELSA, UNLIKE SHITENSTEIN, everything tesla did was EMPIRICAL, do you even have ne fucking clue what that means?

No you do not. It means if you build ANYTHING TESLA DESIGNED EXACTLY THE WAY HE DESIGNED IT, IT WILL WORK.

This is not some bullshit low class commercialized relativity theory, everything can be reproduced and it was written about in many prestigious places and you simply fucking ignore everything to his credit and continue to bash him when all evidence proves otherwise!

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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None of his work was in isolation.
the hell it wasnt he was a private inventor and like all other private inventors that are not tenured or franchised they are destroyed by your ilk who happily burns peoples labs down to insure commercialism and slave labor rather than pursuit of the arts.

Oh so I am now as bad as the people who supposedly burned down poor Tesla's lab! You really are batshit insane, you've completely lost the fucking plot!

BTW Tesla worked for a while for Edison but as per usual you miss the fucking point. My point was that his most worthwhile work which yielded good inventions was done under the 19th Century paradigm of science, where he took the inventions of others and made them better or applied them differently. It was when he went off the plot talking about 22nd Century sounding wireless energy and extracting energy from the cosmos etc. that people stopped taking him seriously.

thats bullshit.

as you can see from my above post the whold fucking scientific community acknowledged and recognized him.

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EXCEPT COMMERCIAL because there is no fucking money in free electricity and he had no tenure or franchise so like every other private inventor got FUCKED as did the the world who would have benefitted by not being required to have paved roads, not being required to have fuckign wires strung all over the damn place and in every house etc

A huge commercial empire was built on bullshit science rather than what is GOOD for the people!

Thats what governments are for to promote their power by commercialzation.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

Grow the fuck up and accept others have opinions that differ with yours.

you dont have opinions you have spin. yes we all recognize it and its been brought up in many threads on this board.

So you're saying his early work is worthless now as it has no place in the modern world. On what do you base that claim on. A few Youtube videos and some much disputed claims.

You implied it not me.

The fucking technology has existed for over a fucking hundred years. You need to get a fucking working model to truly show to the world or stop whinging.



BEEN THERE DONE THAT!

YOU NEED TO GET A CLUE!

Tesla invented radio not baloney.


You have posted no such evidence from reputable sources, merely some of Tesla's words and videos. As Ron said, you do not know what empirical means. Empirical relates to what is observable. Nothing Tesla did with wireless power or free power was objectively observed by his true peers in a fashion that would befit contentious experiements.


Tesla served the electrical engineering profession in its highest offices. In the early 1890s, he was elected as vice-president of the American Institute of Electrical Engineers, now the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. At the time of his election, Alexander Graham Bell was its president. Tesla served two years as vice-president of the AIEE and, a decade later, one of his laboratory technicians at the Colorado Springs experiments served as the first vice-president of the Institute of Radio Engineers when it was formed in 1903. This was the now, famous consulting engineer Fritz Lowenstein. Lowenstein was the inventor of the grid biased Class A amplifier (for which he received the sum of $150,000 from AT&T in 1918),4 the shaped plate capacitor, and other electrical and mechanical devices. His two IRE papers, with comments on the propagation of ground waves by Zenneck and sky waves by Austin, appeared in February and June issues of the IRE Proceedings, the year of this interview. It should also be noted that Tesla was a fellow of the AIEE, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and a dozen other professional societies. He received over 13 honorary degrees from such diverse institutions as Columbia, Yale, and the Universities of Paris, Vienna, Prague, and Sofia.

Recently, another fascinating fact about Tesla has come to light. After all these years, it is now known that he was nominated for an undivided Nobel prize in physics in 1937.5 Tesla's nominator, Felix Ehernhaft, of Vienna, had previously nominated Albert Einstein for the Nobel prize.

Tesla had the remarkable talent of charming and astonishing his admirers while at the same time enraging his enemies—the phenomenon continues to the present day. It is unfortunate that, despite several current popular biographies, there still exists no definitive technical authority, other than his own scattered publications, to consult on the scientific issues of his intriguing and colorful scientific career. Consider the adulation bestowed upon him by Lord Kelvin, Hermann von Helmholtz, Sir William Crookes, Lord Rayleigh, Sir James Dewer, Robert Millikan, Sir James Fleming, B.A. Behrend, A.E. Kennally, L.W. Austin, W.H. Bragg, Ferdinand Braun, Jonathan Zenneck, E.W.E Alexanderson, J.S. Stone, Vannevar Bush, W.H. Eccles, Edwin H. Armstrong (who served as a pallbearer at Tesla's funeral, as did Alexanderson), and notably Albert Einstein, Ernest Rutherford, Arthur Compton, and Neils Bohr. There are a number of Nobel laureates, Royal Society fellows, IEEE presidents and fellows, and university presidents in that collection. No one, since Franklin, had so stirred the scientific and engineering world.



of course thats nothing compared to YOUR CREDENTIALS, after all he didnt deal out red herrings and double think all day so he is a misfit in MODERN society!


BTW what the fuck is your problem with Einstein? Is it because he's Jewish?

Playing the race card when you aint got no nuttin but SPIN?

I said "c" is not a constant and curved space does not exist. You dont get it so SPINIT! LMAO

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

Yet more of your copy and paste bullshit, which I have edited out.

well you want citations wtf is your problem now. is that all you can do is spin piss moan whine and bitch?

Bullshit. Of course Tesla worked for others, and he was funded too so had obligations to others.

you dont get that either huh? Dont they have schools over there? dont expect me to take you by the hand to explain as if I were teaching a shild what you should be old enough to grasp for shit sake.


The scientific community did recognise him but later on he had a dramatic fall from grace when people jeered at him and some deemed him insane.

oh thats right you have to one of the MOB or you are excommunicated! God damned if you make the EMPIRE look like fools and expose their commercial slave system.

The rest of what you say is horseshit of no real relevance. I like a freebie like anyone else so I would welcome free power if there was any fucking truth to it. What I won't do is indulge stupidity for the sake of retarded conspiracism. BTW posting up images of horn-loaded loudspeakers merely reinforces your total idiocy, just as it was on the troofer threads.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Grow the fuck up and accept others have opinions that differ with yours.

you dont have opinions you have spin. yes we all recognize it and its been brought up in many threads on this board.

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So you're saying his early work is worthless now as it has no place in the modern world. On what do you base that claim on. A few Youtube videos and some much disputed claims.

You implied it not me.

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The fucking technology has existed for over a fucking hundred years. You need to get a fucking working model to truly show to the world or stop whinging.

BEEN THERE DONE THAT!

YOU NEED TO GET A CLUE!

Tesla invented radio not baloney.

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You have posted no such evidence from reputable sources, merely some of Tesla's words and videos. As Ron said, you do not know what empirical means. Empirical relates to what is observable. Nothing Tesla did with wireless power or free power was objectively observed by his true peers in a fashion that would befit contentious experiements.


Tesla served the electrical engineering profession in its highest offices. In the early 1890s, he was elected as vice-president of the American Institute of Electrical Engineers, now the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. At the time of his election, Alexander Graham Bell was its president. Tesla served two years as vice-president of the AIEE and, a decade later, one of his laboratory technicians at the Colorado Springs experiments served as the first vice-president of the Institute of Radio Engineers when it was formed in 1903. This was the now, famous consulting engineer Fritz Lowenstein. Lowenstein was the inventor of the grid biased Class A amplifier (for which he received the sum of $150,000 from AT&T in 1918),4 the shaped plate capacitor, and other electrical and mechanical devices...

of course thats nothing compared to YOUR CREDENTIALS, after all he didnt deal out red herrings and double think all day so he is a misfit in MODERN society!

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BTW what the fuck is your problem with Einstein? Is it because he's Jewish?

Playing the race card when you aint got no nuttin but SPIN?

I said "c" is not a constant and curved space does not exist. You dont get it so SPINIT! LMAO

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Not too many people get run over by a truck and cry what truck? congratulations you are heading for the asshelmet award.

Well genius you think you are fucking qualified to evaluate tesla devices

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Hows that public school edjamacation workin for ya?

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Yet more of your copy and paste bullshit, which I have edited out.

well you want citations wtf is your problem now. is that all you can do is spin piss moan whine and bitch?

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Bullshit. Of course Tesla worked for others, and he was funded too so had obligations to others.

you dont get that either huh? Dont they have schools over there? dont expect me to take you by the hand to explain as if I were teaching a shild what you should be old enough to grasp for shit sake.

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The scientific community did recognise him but later on he had a dramatic fall from grace when people jeered at him and some deemed him insane.

oh thats right you have to one of the MOB or you are excommunicated! God damned if you make the EMPIRE look like fools and expose their commercial slave system.

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The rest of what you say is horseshit of no real relevance. I like a freebie like anyone else so I would welcome free power if there was any fucking truth to it. What I won't do is indulge stupidity for the sake of retarded conspiracism. BTW posting up images of horn-loaded loudspeakers merely reinforces your total idiocy, just as it was on the troofer threads.

and what you are NOT doing is indulging reality and it proves the point and sort of makes you look like a tard since you dont seem to GET IT, there I just spelled it out for you.

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Oh yeh and by all means feel free to write us a book on the differences between and audio horn and a horn antenna! still waiting for that explanation why the kid is not getting shock, not getting any fucking younger here.

I am so fucking laughing!

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Again you and ana repeat the same shit after not only being told its not electromagnetic but given the damn answer and you cant seem to get it!

Whats up with that?

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
The answers to those videos have been posed by you a hundred fucking times on this forum. Good plausible answers have been given considering they are working without complete information.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
The answers to those videos have been posed by you a hundred fucking times on this forum. Good plausible answers have been given considering they are working without complete information.

plausible has not a damn thing to do with correct and only a complete asshole would pretend plausible applied to the laws of physics. Do you know anyone who would say such bullshit?

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By all means site the quote you are lying about.

Tesla proved it in front of thousands of witnesses and was respected by all the greats and even hertz admitted it would work. and then there is you, the laughing stock of physics and electricity.

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Hows that public egglemacation doin fers ya?

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No one has answered it or even tried to answer it. typical trougher drama queen lying. (well except me, and its in the thread and even though I gave you the answer you still cant figure it out.) unfucking bareabable