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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/17/2012 7:40:55 PM   
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Who mentioned TOS? It is you who is making up strawmen on here. Here again you left the thread for nearly three weeks before replying - what a joke.

3 week involuntary hold in a psychiatric treatment facility perhaps? A brief spell in the county lockup? Either way, it was awfully pleasant. I can't wait for the next one.

At County Lockup he was tightly wrapped in tin foil, experiencing a special new form of electro-convulsive therapy through the application of high-voltage/high-frequency Meyl Corp Tesla coils. Unfortunately the theraputic results are disputed...

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/17/2012 8:08:23 PM   
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At County Lockup he was tightly wrapped in tin foil, experiencing a special new form of electro-convulsive therapy through the application of high-voltage/high-frequency Meyl Corp Tesla coils. Unfortunately the theraputic results are disputed...

I don't think he needs to be wrapped in foil anymore. He found the truther mad scientist version of Colonel William Stryker and rather than adamantium, they impregnated his skeletal structure with the finest aluminum foil they could find in dumpsters behind the local soup kitchen. He is now impervious to sanity and logic and all attempts to share either with him are doomed to dismal failure.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/17/2012 9:11:10 PM   
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More of your copy and paste bullshit which I have edited out. You need to learn some new parlour tricks.

What do you expect I am quoting you after all!
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you come out and try to make hay in science with claims of "plausible"! Better stick to propaganda, plausible works there.

Perhaps you should familiarise yourself with the fucking word http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plausible becuase its a far higher order of truth than your fucking fantasies.

Oh now we need a word lesson too huh.


plausible:
having an appearance of truth or reason; seemingly worthy of approval or acceptance; credible; believable: a plausible excuse; a plausible plot.

but of course its not because:

6. appearance - pretending that something is the case in order to make a good impression; "they try to keep up appearances"; "that ceremony is just for show"

truth:
The quality or state of being true: "the truth of her accusation".
That which is true or in accordance with fact or reality: "tell me the truth".



No point in cutting and pasting the rest of your trash since you are not interested in truth but only what fucking looks like truth smells like truth to find you ass deep in your own bullshit! LMAO


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no tissue damage as your cut and paste wiki shit claims, not even a sensation of a shock and even Dr Green came out here, the guy who did that experiment and told you and you still make the same mistakes.

Hint: there are different types of tesla coils LOL

Where is this imagined thing that Green supposedly told me. Secondly, Green did say he experienced modest sensations of shock when making or breaking contacts.


modest? more like mild, have to work at it to get one LOL No pport for you to hide in this storm

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Sure I showed you that it is qa 110 volt 100 watt bulb and I showed you the 1/8th inch ++ arc too and the video.


here is the arc:




here is the rating;




Its even safe underwater;



here he holds it in his fingers and no shock






Light, The Tesla Way-01 - TMT 72.4 Scale



BUT I DONT GET A SHOCK EXPLAIN WHY Mr WIZARD?






How about you ana ax whatever explain why there is not shock ZIPPO NADA when lighting a 110 volt 100 watt bulb and touching the electrodes?

More electromagnetic non mechanical voodoo maybe huh?



no tissue damage as your cut and paste wiki shit claims, not even a sensation of a shock and even Dr Green came out here, the guy who did that experiment and told you and you still make the same mistakes.

Hint: there are different types of tesla coils LOL






May as well face it you have no fucking clue on any level, nor has any of that wiki and all the other cut and paste crap you put up have even a "plausible" explanation why he can touch the high voltage high current wires and not get killed or even a noticable shock.

See the TRUTH in the videos above










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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/17/2012 9:11:37 PM   
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At County Lockup he was tightly wrapped in tin foil, experiencing a special new form of electro-convulsive therapy through the application of high-voltage/high-frequency Meyl Corp Tesla coils. Unfortunately the theraputic results are disputed...

I don't think he needs to be wrapped in foil anymore. He found the truther mad scientist version of Colonel William Stryker and rather than adamantium, they impregnated his skeletal structure with the finest aluminum foil they could find in dumpsters behind the local soup kitchen. He is now impervious to sanity and logic and all attempts to share either with him are doomed to dismal failure.

That is a rather incisive observation of Zero - not much else needs to be said except that I strongly suspect the soup kitchen tin-foil was liberally coated with bin juice, leading to additional deformity and a broad far-reaching defectiveness.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/17/2012 9:18:47 PM   
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Hey you in there somewhere?

Hello Hello Hello Hello Hello Hello Hello

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/17/2012 9:37:58 PM   
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More of your copy and paste bullshit which I have edited out. You need to learn some new parlour tricks.

What do you expect I am quoting you after all!

Duh, I was referring to the images and text you have been pasting into replies since around page six of this thread.

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you come out and try to make hay in science with claims of "plausible"! Better stick to propaganda, plausible works there.

Perhaps you should familiarise yourself with the fucking word http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plausible becuase its a far higher order of truth than your fucking fantasies.

Oh now we need a word lesson too huh.

plausible:
having an appearance of truth or reason; seemingly worthy of approval or acceptance; credible; believable: a plausible excuse; a plausible plot.

but of course its not because:

6. appearance - pretending that something is the case in order to make a good impression; "they try to keep up appearances"; "that ceremony is just for show"

truth:
The quality or state of being true: "the truth of her accusation".
That which is true or in accordance with fact or reality: "tell me the truth".



No point in cutting and pasting the rest of your trash since you are not interested in truth but only what fucking looks like truth smells like truth to find you ass deep in your own bullshit! LMAO
There are of course numerous divergent definitions of most words. Big deal. As per my link, the definition I pointed to was
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having an appearance of truth or reason; seemingly worthy of approval or acceptance; credible; believable: a plausible excuse; a plausible plot.

The word plausible is contingent, it is merely a worthy explanation - hence the words "seemingly", "appearance" etc. It is appropriate use because you presented loads of videos without any background and demanded answers. Hence many contingent answers were delivered but you refuse any answer that doesn't conform to your own idle fantasies.

BTW once again it is quite remarkable how anally obsessed you are. I repeatedly pointed out how warped it is to bring that into "discussions" and you still can't stop yourself.

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no tissue damage as your cut and paste wiki shit claims, not even a sensation of a shock and even Dr Green came out here, the guy who did that experiment and told you and you still make the same mistakes.

Hint: there are different types of tesla coils LOL

Where is this imagined thing that Green supposedly told me. Secondly, Green did say he experienced modest sensations of shock when making or breaking contacts.


modest? more like mild, have to work at it to get one LOL No pport for you to hide in this storm

How comical of you to admit defeat but then pretend you have won. You said he said he felt NO sensation!


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[Copy and paste bullshit edited out]

May as well face it you have no fucking clue on any level, nor has any of that wiki and all the other cut and paste crap you put up have even a "plausible" explanation why he can touch the high voltage high current wires and not get killed or even a noticable shock.

See the TRUTH in the videos above

This is the sum of R0's connection with reality, any facts, anyone stating otherwise, any use of independent sources without any interest in promoting Tesla's ideas, and its all obsessively anal shit, and repeat repeat "you have no clue".

Time to play a new record or get a new sock puppet because no one on here is even remotely fooled by your nonsense.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/17/2012 9:55:46 PM   
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you see bullshit as worthy.

you already admitted that you are not credible in fact and no amount of make up can turn your bullshit in to truth.

the fact is you have no clue what is going on here and continue to do everything to distract from that FACT and that is not plausible, it is the TRUTH.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/17/2012 10:04:11 PM   
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but you see that is your whole problem.

you see bullshit as worthy.

LOL you're projecting again. Any tittle-tattle about Tesla and you automatically believe it. Look at the way you repeatedly praised and cited Meyl's work only for your Dr. Green to dismiss it, and suddenly poor old Dr. Meyl was out in the cold!

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you already admitted that you are not credible in fact and no amount of make up can turn your bullshit in to truth.

the fact is you have no clue what is going on here and continue to do everything to distract from that FACT and that is not plausible, it is the TRUTH.

Oh really, where did I admit I wasn't credible? More of your strawmanning lies.

I have plenty of understanding what is going on, unlike yourself who knew nothing about basic science, e.g. confusing electro-magnetic and material waves - a mistake a kid in high-school wouldn't make. You are repeating your old mantra "You have no clue" which I pointed out in my last post, and then you say it again as if on cue!

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/17/2012 11:07:39 PM   
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Lets discuss that shall we.

Lets you and I discuss the salient differences between teslas and Meyls coils/transmitters.




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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/18/2012 6:22:26 AM   
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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/18/2012 8:10:09 AM   
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Well I know more than Green does about the subject and while he is correct on one specific point dismissmal is completely in error.

Lets discuss that shall we.

Lets you and I discuss the salient differences between teslas and Meyls coils/transmitters.

You know more than Green does about the subject! ROFL

Green is the guy you have been citing repeatedly with a great deal of glee http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4144794 to beat critics with but now your hubris has taken over to dictate you now know more than him! I'm seriously beginnng to wonder if you possess every single undesireable character trait known to Man!

Green was the one who brought up the differences in Meyl's work, (going as far as to describe them as "toys") on page 21 to which you agreed in post 416 on the very same page!

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/18/2012 5:34:45 PM   
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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/18/2012 5:37:17 PM   
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why?  neither one will run cars. 



Sure just need to scale it to about 3.5 to 4 ft high. I showed you that tiny one running the electric fan earlier. Imagine limitless energy that does not even give you a shock.

You know tesla was going to use that to illuminate the oceans too.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/18/2012 6:09:10 PM   
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Ok so you are incapable of discussing the functional differences in the 2 designs, yet you think you are qualified to discuss this with me because you have a cut and paste button and can make trash sound plausible. well at least in your fantasy world.

Firstly I have little interest in discussing the difference between two designs because neither work, a point Ron has recently reminded you of, and secondly, you have repeatedly demonstrated an abject inablity to discuss anything with anyone that dsagrees with you to any meaningful extent.

All you do is obfuscate, strawman and lie. You have been usng the copy and paste charge aganst me. The material I pasted in was relevant quotes from independent sources as an attempt to back up certain views I was advocating. Everyone perusing this thread knows the one here abusing that function is yourself by continually copying and pasting old posts.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/20/2012 10:29:13 AM   
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Ok so you are incapable of discussing the functional differences in the 2 designs, yet you think you are qualified to discuss this with me because you have a cut and paste button and can make trash sound plausible. well at least in your fantasy world.

Firstly I have little interest in discussing the difference between two designs because neither work, a point Ron has recently reminded you of, and secondly, you have repeatedly demonstrated an abject inablity to discuss anything with anyone that dsagrees with you to any meaningful extent.

Ron didnt say they did not work, he said it is not used to run a car. Try reading for substance.

On the contrary I have repeatedly tried to go to the merits of the matter and you cut and paste your wiki shit which functions completely different and use that red herring by incorrect application.

I cannot show you that your application is incorrect because you do not know shit about it, and as you have demonstrated is precisely no different than trying to teach a a dog in a coma nuclear physics.

All you do is obfuscate, strawman and lie. You have been usng the copy and paste charge aganst me. The material I pasted in was relevant quotes from independent sources as an attempt to back up certain views I was advocating. Everyone perusing this thread knows the one here abusing that function is yourself by continually copying and pasting old posts.


Stop looking in the mirror and transferring what you see onto me. It only further demonstrates that you lie as a matter fact and without remorse.



For those who are interested keep an eye on youtube, there are lots of people experimenting as Dr Green who after examining his work is one of the legitimate people out there working in this area.

the naysayers as above cant even discuss the matter on any level beyond pasting inapplicable wiki designs, inapplicable theories and making alex jones snarks LOL

Certainly not to any point of fruitful understanding.

Other related experiments are the PSEC and SEC, and Joule Ringer, The tesla TMT itself, The tesla high frequency generator, and of course Dr Meyls work in which he has created a handy circuit board design of the (less efficient) flat coil design for universities and other scholastic institutions who wish to get into four quardrant electricity.





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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/20/2012 10:36:33 AM   
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they work well in small consumer electronics, at any size they become both prohibitively expensive and unstable.

So, in certain very restricted senses, they work.  For the bullshit you are touting them for, they don't work.

We have had some 100 years to see a full scale demonstration of these working at the scale you fantasize about.   All we have is a burned out building and your dick in your hands.



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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/20/2012 2:04:25 PM   
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Hey you in there somewhere?

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 7/21/2012 7:55:25 AM   
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Ok so you are incapable of discussing the functional differences in the 2 designs, yet you think you are qualified to discuss this with me because you have a cut and paste button and can make trash sound plausible. well at least in your fantasy world.

Firstly I have little interest in discussing the difference between two designs because neither work, a point Ron has recently reminded you of, and secondly, you have repeatedly demonstrated an abject inablity to discuss anything with anyone that dsagrees with you to any meaningful extent.

Ron didnt say they did not work, he said it is not used to run a car. Try reading for substance.

LOL stop bullshitting. Ron did say in effect that they didn't work for any of the real world applications you were referriing to, other than the fact that he acknowledged they can work on a small marginal scale. That was the whole fucking point of the thread. He has been your most persistent critic of these technologies on this thread other than myself.

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On the contrary I have repeatedly tried to go to the merits of the matter and you cut and paste your wiki shit which functions completely different and use that red herring by incorrect application.

I cannot show you that your application is incorrect because you do not know shit about it, and as you have demonstrated is precisely no different than trying to teach a a dog in a coma nuclear physics.

You could not display the merits of these technologies because there are none. Instead you lied through your teeth, pretended youtube videos, which possessed no controlled testing environment or independently verified detail of methodology, constituted proof. And you strawmanned shamelessly over the same very points repeatedly. You are a joke.

The only quotes I posted were short extracts from a variety of sources (not just Wiki) which included several scientific journals. By contrast you abused the readers of this thread by engaging in your usual copy and paste tactics. You repeatedly pasted in the same post of Youtube links page after page after page. If you contest this I'll post links to each one.

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All you do is obfuscate, strawman and lie. You have been usng the copy and paste charge aganst me. The material I pasted in was relevant quotes from independent sources as an attempt to back up certain views I was advocating. Everyone perusing this thread knows the one here abusing that function is yourself by continually copying and pasting old posts.

Stop looking in the mirror and transferring what you see onto me. It only further demonstrates that you lie as a matter fact and without remorse.

I made that very point about you in a recent post - Once again you are firing my legitimate criticisms back at myself. Another classic tactic of shameless propagandists.

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For those who are interested keep an eye on youtube, there are lots of people experimenting as Dr Green who after examining his work is one of the legitimate people out there working in this area.

the naysayers as above cant even discuss the matter on any level beyond pasting inapplicable wiki designs, inapplicable theories and making alex jones snarks LOL

Certainly not to any point of fruitful understanding.

Oh you examined his work and approve? ROFL. For a guy who doesn't properly grasp the basics of high school science to give his approval will no doubt be of great comfort to skeptics of Tesla's technology!

The Wiki cites referred to real world electrical phenomena with particular reference to the output of Tesla coils generally. Higher frequency AC (doesn't matter if it is out of the bandwidth of human hearing or not) which these designs typically produce causes less damage to the body and causes vastly less pain than low frequency AC like 50/60 Hz mains. That is the kind of frequency you were comparing it when you were challenging skeptics to do "tests" with the mains. Once again your horseshit is debunked! Goodbye.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/11/2012 1:31:26 AM   
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You do get the most bullshit in one post award however. but then everyone has to be good at something.




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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/11/2012 5:39:08 AM   
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How about you ana ax whatever explain why there is not shock ZIPPO NADA when lighting a 110 volt 100 watt bulb and touching the electrodes?

More electromagnetic non mechanical voodoo maybe huh?


My qualifications to answer this come from 40 years of working on live electrical equipment , most of it either 415v 240v or 110v.

In the pictures you posted the guy is never the least past of resistence. If you look at the photo, the lamp is always connected to the wires, so the voltage takes the easiest path, which is down the copper.

It is also possible to touch a live terminal provided you are sufficiently earthed, although the higher the voltage the riskier this is. If you are working on a wooden ladder, ot standing on an insulated block (dry wood, rubber mat) you wont get a shock UNLESS you touch both live and earth/neutral terminal at the same time.


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