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LadyConstanze -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 11:10:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus Oh HELL yeah, people should send me stuff!! TONER for the printer, kraft envelopes, and some new client chairs, or maybe refinish the ones I have...so that means... they send me a refinisher? Hm Anyway. When I was a teacher, and the kiddies brought me pressies, I said tyvm, because that's what you say. And I still have some of those things, too. Thought that counts, and all that. So if some internet dood thinks that I need crotchless panties, as long as they are my size, who am I to complain? [;)] But what you want isn't sexy... And you may have all the crotchless panties, I fucking HATE them, if I'm in such a hurry that I can't take them off, that must be Brad Pitt on roids, and then he might have the strength to just push them aside or rip them off...

LadyHibiscus -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 11:17:38 AM)
Actually, crotchless panties are perfect on MEN. :) No, I never want sexy things. Imagine the horror when I told them to donate to a CHARITY and send me the receipt!! No glamour there![8\|]

LadyConstanze -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 11:35:26 AM)
You so haven't been paying attention as to how a domme should be!!!! I didn't even ask for the receipt and it made me the "bad woman", weal and twue dommes prefer cheap nylon lingerie apparently, and you even want the receipt, bad bad bad... You have ruined some wood!

LadyHibiscus -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 11:38:47 AM)
Well it's not like I want the receipt for MY taxes, they can write it off themselves!! And cheap nylon lingerie is fun for those outings when it will get snagged on tree branches and suchlike. The outdoors is NOT the place for LaPerla!

LadyConstanze -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 11:45:01 AM)
Eeep, I'm thinking ants and gnats... But just asking for a receipt means you are serious about it, so you kill their fantasies about how you should be, bad bad bad ;)

LadyHibiscus -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 12:07:47 PM)
Alas, Doing it Rong, for decades. [8D]

PeonForHer -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 12:25:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus Actually, crotchless panties are perfect on MEN. Men don't need them. As a bloke, you just put on standard women's knickers (or "pannies" as they're known in America by those women within wagon's distance of a shop where these items can be bought). A man's tackle just slips around the front bit of cloth, which is never wide enough to hold it. Or so I'm given to understand.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 12:27:58 PM)
Oh Darling. Leave such things to the experts, okay? I am dealing with aesthetics here, and practicality. And my unnerpance are too big for you anyway.

JeffBC -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 12:36:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus No, I never want sexy things. Imagine the horror when I told them to donate to a CHARITY and send me the receipt!! No glamour there![8\|] And that, right there, is what separates an actual gift from a bribe. If I took it into my head that you were such a special woman I wanted to commemorate it in some way and you told me that a charity donation would do the trick I'd think that was neat. A generally "do-good" sort of thing easily accomplished over the internet. What's not to like?

LadyHibiscus -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 12:38:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JeffBC quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus No, I never want sexy things. Imagine the horror when I told them to donate to a CHARITY and send me the receipt!! No glamour there![8\|] And that, right there, is what separates an actual gift from a bribe. If I took it into my head that you were such a special woman I wanted to commemorate it in some way and you told me that a charity donation would do the trick I'd think that was neat. A generally "do-good" sort of thing easily accomplished over the internet. What's not to like? You would THINK, wouldn't you? And it's not like I don't adore gifts from people I actually KNOW, that thought about what I might like. But really? I have stuff aplenty. Send some money to a food bank or homeless shelter. I know where my next meal is coming from, not everyone does. But truly, such things are NOT about pleasing the dominant, and we know it well.

forcedsensuality -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 2:34:06 PM)
what i wrote was a response to "Ms Connie" and her initial response to me after i said something general about the experiment, which she then seemed to be defending she wrote about how she assumed my initial post was some sort of attack on her,.. so i assumed it was her experiment for a bit.. i admitted that, so not a "colossal fail".. looking at her initial response to me it seemed so personal and angry and dismissive .. great example of bad behaviour in "civil society" but the only reason i initially posted was the ethics decision i heard about the other day i've had other collarme profiles and ids and i've had some but not too many bdsm relationships and i live in another country from many of you and it's just such a cop out to dismiss what i say based on who you imagine i might be.. Connie in particular accuses me or projecting an imagined idealised domme fantasy onto her or dommes in general i guess and then proceeds to project an imagined worst-possible sub-player fantasy of hers onto me, as a lot of responses seem to do in some way or other ad hominem .. check wikipedia if you like, .. attacking a person's speech by making attacks on him the person rather than addressing the logic of what was said i admitted i thought LC had done this experiment and that this was wrong,.. doesn't change most of what i said in disagreement with her the gist: you can't go around tricking people before you're in a relationship, even if some d/s relationships are by mutual agreement "tricky", and society would not work if everybody behaved this way, and calling yourself dominant only works for domains such as relationships where your dominance is taken even slightly seriously

forcedsensuality -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 3:19:40 PM)
i still don't understand why LC thought my initial post was a response to her, .. it wasn't, but she jumped all over me (or tried to) so i guess i assumed it was her experiment it was only the experiment i was commenting on, but some responses feed that same irritation i have had with this site, that there often seems to be a swarm of people dissing posters who maybe don't "follow the party line" on something .. a swarm of abuse all i initially posted was a thought about the experiment and how it coincided with an ethics committee decision i'd just heard about

LadyHibiscus -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 3:24:21 PM)
I use 'fast reply', whixh means the person whose post is immediately above mine gets tagged 'in response to'. Perhaps that's what she referring to? At any rate, calling her 'Connie" is not exactly attempting to be polite, is it? Deep breath, move on, pixels on a screen, etc.

forcedsensuality -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 3:50:20 PM)
well there was a tit-for-tat element to that, following her initial eruption in my direction still, what's the big deal ? stand on ceremony when the substance is fleeting, I say

LadyHibiscus -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 3:54:02 PM)
So, if one person is rude, rudeness is an acceptable response in 'civilised society'? Good to know.

LanaDeVille -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 3:55:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: forcedsensuality i still don't understand why LC thought my initial post was a response to her, .. it wasn't, but she jumped all over me (or tried to) so i guess i assumed it was her experiment it was only the experiment i was commenting on, but some responses feed that same irritation i have had with this site, that there often seems to be a swarm of people dissing posters who maybe don't "follow the party line" on something .. a swarm of abuse all i initially posted was a thought about the experiment and how it coincided with an ethics committee decision i'd just heard about I haven't read too much of the dispute, so I don't know who did what. I will say though that she snapped at me once too even though I was talking about someone else. Being rude back though doesn't help. You gotta be above that sort of thing sometimes and try to clear up any misunderstandings before they escalate too much. I just said, in short, "I wasn't talking about you."

LadyConstanze -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 4:00:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: forcedsensuality i still don't understand why LC thought my initial post was a response to her, .. it wasn't, but she jumped all over me (or tried to) so i guess i assumed it was her experiment it was only the experiment i was commenting on, but some responses feed that same irritation i have had with this site, that there often seems to be a swarm of people dissing posters who maybe don't "follow the party line" on something .. a swarm of abuse all i initially posted was a thought about the experiment and how it coincided with an ethics committee decision i'd just heard about http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4199621 You responded directly to me despite the fact that I hadn't said anything about the issue for ages, you know that little text in the right hand bottom "(in reply to LadyConstanze)" and it brings you to the post you replied to, which was a few posts further than the last few ones and you made some direct references to what I said... quote: dommes aren't meant to be mean in this way .. ie "ha ha i'm not interested in you at all, lingerie -> Salvation Army" I said several times it wasn't my experiment, didn't matter to you, you don't care much about facts and you decided I am evil and insult all submissives... Ding dong, wake up and smell the coffee, unsaddle the dramalama and spare us the "I am so victimized" shit, if you can dish it out, don't back peddle and play the insulted innocence. Back peddle much, sugarplum? So let me get this straight, you can call people bad and tell them how they should do it, despite having ZERO experience and if somebody points that out you get all butt hurt and cry and stomp off... Nobody is treading the party line here, it's just a lot of people seem to agree that you're somewhat clueless about BDSM... Btw if you had so many BDSM relationships, then you aren't exactly honest in your profile now are you? Because you claim you want to act out those fantasies you've had for years... So which one is actually true? And Buttercup, you can be assured that I don't project any fantasies on you, now come on, I just had dinner, I'd like to keep it down... As for living in another country, oh boohoohoo, you know NZ is hardly on another planet, btw if you're in the Christchurch near the South Island you might want to check out your local scene, it's quite active.

forcedsensuality -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 4:02:17 PM)
oh, and she directly referenced me and took personal umbrage against me, so no to that but Lady Hibiscus, that doesn't mean that because we disagree and because i've looked at your profile that i think you're the most despicable woman on earth, .. but then, I assume that you wouldn't expect I'd think that, your posts usually seem more reasonable than some others'.. (shouldn't be assuming about people based on a few opinions, i know) i suppose not everybody can't be wrong, but everybody taking entrenched positions and holding grudges can't be right

TNDommeK -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 4:05:22 PM)
sigh Again, I have to be good. [>:] [sm=zipmouth.gif] Cryptic come help me walk away!!!!!

LadyHibiscus -> RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme (8/9/2012 4:06:33 PM)
Whatever, hon, it's a free internet and you can dwell on whatever interests you, or move on. Or use that 'hide' button for posters you don't want to read.

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