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You should know Rodriguez was in the wrong or Nosathro wouldn't have brought it up.

I beleve the topic of this discussion is "Stand Your Ground II" I brought the news article for that purpose.  Rodriguesz has not been convicted yet and is using the SYG law.

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And conveniently omitted by our oh-so-sincere defender of righteousness and justice.

You give me a hard time when I quote an entire article and you give me a hard time when I snip. What's your problem with me recently?

Nothing with you personally. My problem was (let's assume it's past tense) that while affecting a concern for rights and justice, you weren't showing any for the rights of the sources you were copying; and while excerpting is fair, snipping out parts to give a false impression isn't. Not that you're the only person who ever did that, and maybe it wasn't even intentional, but sometimes the shit starts to get too thick.

It's all Nosanthro's fault. [:D]

K.

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I beleve the topic of this discussion is "Stand Your Ground II" I brought the news article for that purpose.

Your purpose is evident enough. However, these types of laws take different forms with different restrictions.

Martin's death and will be decided under a different kind of self-defense doctrine. But it offers another example of how laws governing deadly force are tested in the nation's courtrooms and the many complex legal issues that swirl around each case.

So unless you're just another crazed anti-gun nut and don't give a damn, as seems apparent, perhaps you should clarify the particular 'stand your ground' provisions to which you are raising an objection, and what you would recommend as an alternative.

K.

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I beleve the topic of this discussion is "Stand Your Ground II" I brought the news article for that purpose.

Your purpose is evident enough. However, these types of laws take different forms with different restrictions.

Martin's death and will be decided under a different kind of self-defense doctrine. But it offers another example of how laws governing deadly force are tested in the nation's courtrooms and the many complex legal issues that swirl around each case.

So unless you're just another crazed anti-gun nut and don't give a damn, as seems apparent, perhaps you should clarify the particular 'stand your ground' provisions to which you are raising an objection, and what you would recommend as an alternative.

K.

Where do I indicate any objection?  I agree with others sharing their views, as indicated by this article there is a debt about this law.  As I said I brought this article for discussion. And thank you for your commements.  For your edification I own a Flintlock pistol, Match Lock Musket, a Blunderbuss, (all fully functional, meaning the will shot ammo, but the Blunderbuss is a bit hard to find ammo for it, glass and rocks is what I use.), and a 1858 Army Remington.  I also have a crossbow, English Long Bow, several swords and daggers, including a Claymore, Baskethilt, two hand sword, Gauche, Dirk, Sgian Dubh, and Seax.

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Where do I indicate any objection?

A better question would be where have you indicated anything BUT objections. In this thread, they started with your first comment on page 1:

I said this before and I will say it again..."Welcome to Dodge City" this is only the begining.

Assuming nobody is hacking your account, of course, and that your therapist has ruled out MPD.

K.

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Those factors come into play if the state tries to prove it wasn't justified.

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So some of these guys have figured a way around it. It still doesn't make it right that a law abiding citizen should be denied the means of self defense all the while gang bangers are going to be packin regardless of the law.

Who's talking about denying law abiding citizens means of self defense? No really, I apparently missed that part of this thread, where is it?

Your are by advocating abolishing SYG.

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I don't see the guy in the adkins killig, there are too many factors beyond the lack of a weapon. That is even if a weapon had existed it would have been very easy to just drive off.

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If all you have to do is say I was scared how come over one thrid of the people claiming syg in Fl are convicted of crimes????

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So now your claiming syg allows people to be serial killers? Show one case were that is even remotly indicated. You deny wanting to eliminate syg and self defence but you hide behind insults when asked how to protect the rifgt of sef defense and fix your imagined problems.