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7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 9:27:05 AM   
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A submissive serves her/his Dominant. No question. What he/she needs, he /she gets. A submissive is always being watched. Rest assured however that submissives have needs in a relationship as well. I can’t speak for everyone, but I know what this submissive needs, and I have a feeling it isn’t all that unique to me.

1. Your time. If you can’t be with me, talk, text, instant message, or send smoke signals fairly frequently then you aren’t for me. I need to know I am on your mind and you want to be near me. It isn’t just common knowledge, and it never will be, no matter how hard you have tried to make it so.

2. Your attention. If you can’t listen to the little details of my life and make contributions that are useful (even if they aren’t what I want to hear), then you aren’t for me. I need to know that what matters to me today, tomorrow, or next week, also matters to you. Whatever it is may be a silly thing in your mind, but it’s my thing, and it’s important to me.

3. Your consistency. If you can’t enforce the rules you set, and punish and/or reward every single time, then you aren’t for me. Sure you can take into consideration the circumstances in my life at the time, but I need to know that each rule you set has purpose and you intend to see them all through. If you can’t supervise them, don’t set them.

4. Your honesty. If you can’t tell me the truth, all the time, every time, then you aren’t for me. I do not lie to you, even when I really want to, and I expect the same courtesy. If you are always honest with me, even about the little things I don’t even know I should ask you, I will find it easier to believe the harder stuff.

5. Your trust. If you can’t trust me to know my limits, when we reach them, and to let you know, then you aren’t for me. I trust you to take me new places, but you have to go with me too, and sometimes those places are also new to you. Let’s go there together.

6. Your mind. If you can’t share the things that are important to you with me, then you aren’t for me. I like your body, I like your skills, but I also want to like your mind. Your thoughts, dreams, goals, and ambitions are important to me too. What happens in your life matters to me, because you matter to me.

7. Your love. If you can’t love me, really love me, even when I’m wrong, or bad, or distant, or just plain acting unlovable, then you aren’t for me. Love, in all it’s forms, is unconditional. Keyword: unconditional. That means you love me (in whatever way we have chosen) just because you do… and my thoughts, actions, and behaviors do not define your feelings for me. They may change how our relationship functions, but never how you feel. And PS? I need to hear the actual word every once in awhile, so I can file it away in case it’s awhile before I hear it again. But don’t make me wait too long, because while I’m waiting, someone else may be saying it to me.

See? As fun as whips and floggers, butt plugs and vibrators, rope and cuffs, etc. are, they aren’t a need for this submissive. I need a good foundation that can support a strong relationship. As my Dom you have to build that foundation for me…and for that, I’ll be watching you
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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 9:34:27 AM   
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Well cripes I'm a domly dom and I need all that stuff too. Don't lots of folks want that from a relationship?


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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 9:44:34 AM   
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Alrighty then !! Yet another first time poster telling us how it should be.

I thank you for that input, and welcome you to the discussion side of CM. Although I admit I found your first post hugely condescending and think your "7 things" read like a relationship primer for pre-adolescents with some BDSM crap tossed in there.

But you know, whatever floats your boat.

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 9:49:55 AM   
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Well, she did say it was was SHE needed, so I cut her some slack.

Note how I didn't go into those non-romantic M/s relationships at all, Miss Chatte! That is Hib Being Nice. Take careful notes.

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 10:14:49 AM   
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Yeah, I'll give credit where it's due.  It's not a blanket statement or one of those "this is how it is for everyone" gigs.

As to the post itself, I'd fail the test.  I'm not so sure that I believe in unconditional love.  Not the way that it's described in the above, anyway.  When it comes to thoughts, actions, and behaviors, there really should be certain things that each person knows are never acceptable in the relationship to them and not be willing to tolerate them.  Sure, I'm talking about the really, really serious stuff here that isn't necessarily a 'kink' but everybody should know what those things are to them.


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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 10:22:18 AM   
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The OP has nothing to do with being submissive, or BDSM D/s.

It's just straight up relationship stuff whether it's vanilla or something else. Not exactly ground breaking.

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 10:39:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Well, she did say it was was SHE needed, so I cut her some slack.



I can see where this might be going, so let's keep in mind what LadyHibiscus said here.



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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 10:48:36 AM   
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There is a lot of general relationship stuff there yes.
I agree generally with them, though I don't know my limits so not so sure I could be trusted to relay them beyond a generalisation.

As for unconditional love, it does exist, even when those awful things happen. It hurts and it can ruin a relationship, but those feelings don't always go away completely. You can love someone and recognise that they need more than you can give.. You can love someone and realise you want more than they can happily give, and you are not prepared to put them through that. You can love a person knowing they will never love you in return.
The love doesn't die with separation or betrayal, it hides and is put to one side, reformed into something the soul can bear, and look again for a love that will love you in return.

I am still relatively young and a bit of a romantic I guess, but this is how I have found things in my life so far...

I also agree a dominant needs these things from their submissive too.

I'm a bit disappointed the list didn't include ice-cream and spankings too

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 10:51:31 AM   
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I think too many people on here are just looking for a relationship and are not really in to BDSM, its annoying and wastes time. As far as submissive men go they are not real men at all and if I give them my time they should be grateful.

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 10:58:45 AM   
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Well from a Master perspective the 7 things dont include blowing the dominant daily, so that right there is pretty fucked up.

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 11:06:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well from a Master perspective the 7 things dont include blowing the dominant daily, so that right there is pretty fucked up.


Hammering her into the matress isn't there, either. Really, we doms are getting short shrift here, Ron. Unless those are both under #7? Those sappy subs...

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Other commentary aside, I think it's important to have a good handle on what we NEED, and how it is different from what we WANT. Yes, it does serve to thin the herd by seeming very demanding up front, but there's nothing wrong with that. It saves a tremendous amount of time and energy that can be spent knitting, sticking pointy things in people, and going for walks in the sunshine.

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 11:13:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well from a Master perspective the 7 things dont include blowing the dominant daily, so that right there is pretty fucked up.


And what about cleaning his house?

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 11:14:25 AM   
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You would think that submissives would want these things.



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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 11:21:12 AM   
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You would think...

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 11:23:03 AM   
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7 things a submissive needs from a Dominant...

Penis penis penis breath penis penis penis


Hey, but that's just me...not trying to foist my view on anyone!

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 11:42:25 AM   
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I think too many people on here are just looking for a relationship and are not really in to BDSM, its annoying and wastes time. As far as submissive men go they are not real men at all and if I give them my time they should be grateful.

Bless your heart.

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 11:44:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fairerthanshe

7 things a submissive needs from a Dominant...

Penis penis penis breath penis penis penis


Hey, but that's just me...not trying to foist my view on anyone!

~ fairer than she


From my POV:

whips
lube
crops
canes
clamps
more lube
oh...and penis


YMMV

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 11:50:54 AM   
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I tried to look for her other posts, but couldn't find them. Oh well. I kindof agree with Goth on what was said about some people aren't looking for BDSM. It seems the people I talk to get offended when I explain to them that I'm not their girlfriend. *sighs*

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 12:02:43 PM   
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quote:

As far as submissive men go they are not real men at all and if I give them my time they should be grateful.


I find your statement offensive and possibly in violation of the site's TOS: http://www.collarchat.com/tos.asp

Since you're new I'll just leave you with the recommendation to tone down the rhetoric and bear in mind that this discussion board includes more than your target demographic of the "pathetic."

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RE: 7 things a submissive needs from a dominant - 6/5/2012 12:54:20 PM   
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She forgot the fish..

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