Edwynn
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
On the WalMart thread, a "needs based" economy was brought up.
YSG commented thusly:
"No, no a resource based economy, but an economy based on need instead of profit, where we work with each other instead of for each other."
That drives me to think about what needs we, as a people, as a Nation, as a world have. What needs aren't being met and who's needs aren't being met.
YSG also posited:
"My issue with the world at large is that most people do not see that there IS another way. Greed is a superficial emotion, driven by petty insecurity. Money has no value except what WE place on it. Production and progress are the very nature of mankind, they need no external stimuli. We were not ment to live like this, enslaved to our employers through debt and the need of money. "
While he is correct that money, in and of itself, doesn't hold any value, it does represent value. It is a useful unit of trade. Looking at it as anything else should not be done. You can say that it is "purchasing power." One who holds a lot of money, has the power or ability to purchase more than one who holds less money.
I'm very interested in a civil discussion - it has to be civil or else we'll not be discussing anything, just flaming back and forth; I'll do my part if you do yours - about needs and wants. What needs are there and what constitutes a need vs. a want.
Go.
OK, let's dispense with the intent of the OP and the absurd roundaboutness of such intent here;
Some few people are still going to drive their car at high speed into another car, on occasion. The traffic lights and stop signs are a want, not a need.
Some few planes are going to crash, regardless. Federal aviation inspectors and air traffic control towers are a want, not a need. The pilots could probably just figure out most of it themselves, you know, the private sector being unerringly more efficient and all that.
On the rarest of occasion, a building might collapse upon the occupants. But building inspectors are a want, not a need.
Drivable roads and commercially useful highways, safe air lanes, a competent and consistent legal system, a regulatory system of any sort, ... none could be considered as a "need" in the final analysis. At least, many third world countries have displayed that they do not consider much of that as a "need," for their purpose. That's why they are still third world countries.
I'm sure there is within you, somewhere, a point to be made, before you die.
But it ain't happening in this or any other of your posts here.
Quit deluding yourself and listen to others and learn something for a change.
Progress is a good thing, whether it is a "need" or not.
But you have to actually want it. There's the clue.
PS
Every day that we make the "choice" to eat, or just to stay on the planet, is all just elective surgery, innit?
< Message edited by Edwynn -- 6/21/2012 4:54:59 AM >
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Apparently, though, I must have something going on to see that the only ones to die while not having health care are the ones with a disease. And, that, my friends, is how you determine if lack of health care is doing the killing. 
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