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Karmastic -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:12:24 PM)
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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy
You totally lost me Karmastic.
1. There would be no "anonymous" people unless you mean that CM members are not using their actual names but screen names to post comments?
is pshornyguy your real name? then you're anonymous. next.
2. How does providing information, which you can totally ignore and never even see, if that is your preference, amount to "mob rule"?
a group of people making a rating that can negatively affect another person is a mob. why quibble with words? next
3. Why does it matter if a genuine CM member decides not to contact someone whom they believe might be a fake or a liar -- or whom they otherwise are not interested in contacting?
irrelevant red herring. we already discussed the reality of penalties.
4. I do not understand your comment about spoofing an IP address. Once again, consider this more likely scenario:
it means that i can register multiple handles using different IP addresses, and then make many negative votes against you.
(a) You are contacted by someone who interests you
(b) ...(irrelevant)
(2) You can bring some of this information to the attention of the member you are chatting with and ask for his/her explanation. If the explanation seems reasonable to you, then you continue chatting. If it is NOT reasonable or credible, you can (if you want) discontinue contact OR if you are bored and just want to chat with anyone (legitimate or phony) then you continue anyway
bwa haha fucking ha! i can see that going well. what world are you from?
They do that right now---if they don't like what they see in profile information. Some people here don't even provide basic information about their interests or preferences -- they just input their location and/or age -- and that's it!
again, it's value is unreliable at best, outweighed by risk of abuse, and most importantly, easily avoided by the real ungenuine people who just create a new profile.
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ORIGINAL: Karmastic
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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy
Karmastic:
Please explain as precisely as you can what the "penalty" would be?
When you answer, please keep the following facts in mind:
(1) Nobody even knows how many CM members would consult the list of fakes/liars
(2) Those people who DO consult the list probably have had bad experiences and, therefore, they just want to avoid (if possible) chatting with a fake or a liar.
(3) Consequently, the worst thing that would happen is that CM member #1 might not respond to a message by CM member #2 because CM member #2 has received multiple listings by several different people who have mentioned their experienes with dishonesty in CM member #2's behavior.
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ORIGINAL: Karmastic
it's a specious argument that having a bad rating is not a PENALTY.
and you again ignore that it's allowing a bunch of anon people to give another anon person a rating, which ultimately is mob rule. it's not the same thing as rating a restaurant, and open to more abuses, and it's value outweighs it's risks and it's weaknesses in being easy to avoid with new profiles.
ps edit - thank you for your ideas, and sticking up for them, even if they're misguided. and your rebuttals were entertaining, like rational matter colliding with irrational anti-matter.
GET YOUR POPCORN, FRESH HOT POPCORN HERE!
i'm using my 999th post to answer you - i guess that's fitting.
it's disingenuous, again, to not recognize that the ultimate outcome is that person #2 is penalized, because "GENUINE" people may ignore them or not contact them (right or wrong, just or not).
and you continue to ignore that whether the penalty is just or not is based on mob rule, or worse, by someone spoofing their IP address and voting down someone.
and finally, you continue to ignore that this isn't like rating some restaurant, and the "UN-GENUINE" people will just make a new profile, while leaving "GENUINE" people to suffer the "PENALTY".
sheesh, for someone who appears to be intelligent and articulate, you sure seem to avoid issues. hmmm, seems to be a pattern here.
I hereby inaugurate your own rating system, and rate you as "UN-GENUINE".
Does anyone else care to agree with me?
Please vote now.
bwa hahaha, how does that feel? good fit?
see above in bold.
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