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LadyPact -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:16:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond

Tell you what

How about you go along to the site that ALREADY EXISITS for this purpose... and add your list of "fakes and liers"

THen anyone interested can go and read it and you can read other peoples lists...

I actually visited it once.  I had to look.  I'd have laughed My ass off if I was actually on it.  [8D]




DrkJourney -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:16:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

No, you are wrong LadyPact!

Remember what I have said repeatedly: there would have to be a PATTERN of behavior (which, by definition, would require multiple listings by different people).

And EVEN THEN --- it would STILL be up to you to decide how to proceed.

Nothing would change from the current system EXCEPT there would be an information source (a database) where dishonest behavior could be listed....but everybody would make up their own minds regarding its authenticity, accuracy, and credibility.

If my proposed info list is something you believe to be utterly worthless for all the reasons you (and others) have mentioned --- THEN, you would NEVER even look at it.

Has it occurred to you that I just showed you how a pattern can seem to exist when there really isn't one?  Please go back to My post before last.


No No No, you can't sensibly talk to him, or want to discuss suggestions he will totally not talk to you....lol




amaidiamond -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:18:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: amaidiamond

Tell you what

How about you go along to the site that ALREADY EXISITS for this purpose... and add your list of "fakes and liers"

THen anyone interested can go and read it and you can read other peoples lists...

I actually visited it once.  I had to look.  I'd have laughed My ass off if I was actually on it.  [8D]



That would be rather amusing




Lockit -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:18:40 PM)

Dude! Listen up. Liars that report could create accounts in multiple nicknames and lie about someone. I have a guy that repeatedly has stalked me for two years, using at least three accounts every time he contacts me. It would do no good to report him on your list as he just changes his nick. It would harm me if he reported on your list about me because I won't do what he wants. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?




OsideGirl -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:20:35 PM)

Wow....20 pages....all because someone can't deal with the fact that a lot of people lie on the internet.




DrkJourney -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:20:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Dude! Listen up. Liars that report could create accounts in multiple nicknames and lie about someone. I have a guy that repeatedly has stalked me for two years, using at least three accounts every time he contacts me. It would do no good to report him on your list as he just changes his nick. It would harm me if he reported on your list about me because I won't do what he wants. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

I've brought that up in just about every post I've sent him, and so have others, he chooses to ignore....lol




odysseyIndeed -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:20:46 PM)

It would be the one with the five fake profiles who would be making false reports about the genuine person o.o
The liar, the "bad guy" would have multiple accounts and report you to 'the list' on each one of those accounts not because you really did anything wrong, just because he's mad or you rejected him or just for kicks and giggles.

How would you weed that out?/




LadyConstanze -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:21:28 PM)

LOL, I wondered why he needs several profiles here, maybe he approaches people with several user names, they figure out, find him creepy, tell him something and disappear (as any sane person would) but for him they must be fake, because who could resist such a prize.... Can we all vote for REAL(ly) delusional...




Whenready -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:21:56 PM)

But my position is still this:

(1) everyone will continue to make their own evaluations -- just as they do right now

(2) the difference is: you will have a source of information (which you can totally ignore if you like) that might save you considerable time and energy OR, at a minimum, might encourage you to ask more probing questions so that you can spend your time chatting with potentially compatible people instead of people who are using this website to manipulate CM members -- but are NOT genuinely interested in the purposes of this site.


Then - ultimately - no - this is of no interest to me:
(1) I already make my own evaluations. I trust my gut more than a post from x (who I don't know) saying y (in whom I am perhaps interested) is a fake
(2) There's already a sticky which says in effect (MY choice of words here) "I've met y face to face and had a positive experience meeting" (a "genuine" recommendation, if you like)
(3) If I'm iinterested in someone I will be asking probing questions anyway.
(4) I still don't accept your inferred definition of "genuine": Your interests are pretty far away from mine, and, in turn, from financial scammers. Someone somewhere would call each of us fakes since we dont meet what they are looking for. Each of us may or may not be the "right" person for someone out there. Difference does not equal fake, and a list of opinions on here from others won't change that.

For me, your proposal is not of interest. Sorry, but I'm out. Good luck.




MistressJennalee -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:22:48 PM)

I messed up my back after falling off my bike and have no pain meds or way to get them other then a costly ER visit. As there is nothing good on tv to distract me, I just want to say: this thread is a gift from Baby Jesus.




searching4mysir -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:23:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

Well, then, why ARE you on this site?

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir


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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

Of course I find local guys --- despite the delusional comments of a previous requester.

But many guys are not into BDSM or Master/slave as an ongoing relationship. They see it as recreational NSA sex so that is why I presume ALL of us are on CM i.e. we are looking for someone who enjoys this lifestyle?



You would presume wrong. And you would be an idiot to presume anything about ALL people in any group.





Very simple, I enjoy the community of the message boards (as if it is any of your business).

And what I meant is that, only an idiot presumes he knows everything about a group of people as individuals just because he is a member of said group. People are people and join various groups for their own reasons, some of which you may not share or agree with.

Get over yourself cupcake. You may think you are a dominant, but you are not MY dominant and have no authority over me nor deserve any of my respect. With the way you have been behaving here, you don't even deserve common courtesy.




Lockit -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:24:07 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DrkJourney


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Dude! Listen up. Liars that report could create accounts in multiple nicknames and lie about someone. I have a guy that repeatedly has stalked me for two years, using at least three accounts every time he contacts me. It would do no good to report him on your list as he just changes his nick. It would harm me if he reported on your list about me because I won't do what he wants. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

I've brought that up in just about every post I've sent him, and so have others, he chooses to ignore....lol



I know... *shakes head* Glad he didn't lie on his profile and say he was open minded and up for new things. He cannot grasp any concept other than what he is obsessed with.




Karmastic -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:24:44 PM)

oh my gosh, you're being dense.

YES, the fake can just get another profile, but that's not the point you still don't grasp.

as i have already said over and over, a dishonest person can create several fake profiles and vote many times against an innocent person's profile.


ps edit - now i understand why OP suddenly gets ignored. watch how it works.




DrkJourney -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:25:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Wow....20 pages....all because someone can't deal with the fact that a lot of people lie on the internet.

I know right? Awesome isn't it? It's totally gotten me through this laundry day...lol




pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:26:28 PM)

But, LadyPact, would such a "pattern" occur repeatedly and result in multiple listings at different times by several different people who present details re: dishonesty???

Look---I can invent all sorts of horror stories to denigrate my idea. But let's try to keep this discussion based upon REAL possibilities not hypothetical extremes which are not likely to occur.

It is certainly true that any one person could concoct a totally false assertion. I suppose it is even possible that an alliance of troublemakers here could fabricate a series of lies about somebody they do not like.

But the fail-safe mechanism is still something you are not addressing:

(1) What is the actual evidence you are using to create the (false) impression of dishonesty by a CM member?

(a) If you claim he/she is lying about their age --- ok -- where did you find something credible to make that a reasonable conclusion?

(b) If you claim that his/her pics are phony -- ok -- where did you find something to establish the validity of your assertion?

(c) If you claim that his/her profile is composed of falsehoods regarding his/her actual preferences --- ok -- where did you find something credible and verifiable to document those falsehoods?

What I think you guys are still missing is this:

RIGHT NOW---under the current system, you employ your brain and your instincts to separate out legitimate CM members from phony ones.

Under my proposal -- THAT REMAINS IN PLACE. The only difference is that you have an information source which might serve to validate your initial concerns and instincts!




quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

No, you are wrong LadyPact!

Remember what I have said repeatedly: there would have to be a PATTERN of behavior (which, by definition, would require multiple listings by different people).

And EVEN THEN --- it would STILL be up to you to decide how to proceed.

Nothing would change from the current system EXCEPT there would be an information source (a database) where dishonest behavior could be listed....but everybody would make up their own minds regarding its authenticity, accuracy, and credibility.

If my proposed info list is something you believe to be utterly worthless for all the reasons you (and others) have mentioned --- THEN, you would NEVER even look at it.

Has it occurred to you that I just showed you how a pattern can seem to exist when there really isn't one?  Please go back to My post before last.






Lockit -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:27:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DrkJourney


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Wow....20 pages....all because someone can't deal with the fact that a lot of people lie on the internet.

I know right? Awesome isn't it? It's totally gotten me through this laundry day...lol


Hehehe.. my fix it guy, here remodeling kept asking what I was laughing at. I think I kind of outed myself. [;)] Worked for me... we sat on the bed together. But damn it, he left and I had to come back here! There's always the next time though... he will be back!




LadyConstanze -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:29:29 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Karmastic

oh my gosh, you're being dense.

YES, the fake can just get another profile, but that's not the point you still don't grasp.

as i have already said over and over, a dishonest person can create several fake profiles and vote many times against an innocent person's profile.


ps edit - now i understand why OP suddenly gets ignored. watch how it works.



Uh OP already mentioned several times he has several profiles... My theory is that he gets turned down by somebody, then approaches person with an other profile, same thing happens...




LadyPact -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:29:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: amaidiamond
That would be rather amusing

Considering I know someone in common with one person that I noticed posts there frequently, it would have cracked Me up.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:31:49 PM)

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Under my proposal -- THAT REMAINS IN PLACE. The only difference is that you have an information source which might serve to validate your initial concerns and instincts!


Like somebody who has several profiles and an axe to grind - yes, that would be an excellent information source... DUHHHH

Get over it, behave like an adult and stop the tantrums, it's getting old.




DrkJourney -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 4:32:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit


quote:

ORIGINAL: DrkJourney


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Wow....20 pages....all because someone can't deal with the fact that a lot of people lie on the internet.

I know right? Awesome isn't it? It's totally gotten me through this laundry day...lol


Hehehe.. my fix it guy, here remodeling kept asking what I was laughing at. I think I kind of outed myself. [;)] Worked for me... we sat on the bed together. But damn it, he left and I had to come back here! There's always the next time though... he will be back!

Well at least someone got some good out of this....lol Hey make a thread about the fix it guy, now that sounds like a good thread...lol




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