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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/22/2012 2:49:03 PM   
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It's a sexy word. Hearing "slut" can make you feel aroused, and forming connections between arousal and a person is the basis for biological attraction to that person. Therefore if having that word in a profile improves overall success rates, we can conclude based on meme theory that the behavior of using the word "slut" in profiles is naturally selected.

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/22/2012 3:23:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

Well I pretty much agree with chatterbox24. The OP was of using the word "slut" in a profile where strangers can assume, define and judge all they want - and I would now assume you do describe yourself as such, IF your profile could be found....

Me, I'm still something of a romantic who seeks relationships moreso than partners and looking at profiles comes from something interesting catching my attention. And I'm just not interested in dating the "town bike", no matter how the self-proclaimed "slut" wants to hash it.

I recently read a profile of a fem/sub who, presumably referring to general experience, said she was new to the lifestyle but had done a few gang-bangs. 'X'ed outa there pretty quick, too - and lifestyle experience is not an issue to me.

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That wasn't my question to chatterbox24 though.

Of course I realize that certain people will have negative connotation to the word "slut". And of course there are people like yourself who are not prone to get romantically involved with people who have a lot of sexual experience -or simple advertise that they do. However to jump from your personal perception of the word slut to a notion that a person using the word slut to describe themselves as "wanting to be disrespected, wanting to be considered practicing unsafe sex, wanting to be thought less off" is quite a big leap in my opinion.

Of course there are people that WILL think less and will disrespect of a self-described slut, but there is a huge difference of personally having negative connotations to a word, and the idea that people using that word to describe themselves want to be viewed negatively.

There are people who see homosexuals as filthy amoral sodomists who will burn in hell. But that doesn't mean a person stating they are homosexual wants to be seen as such.
There are people who see Dominants as wife abusing lowlifes who have personal insecurities they take out on others. But that doesn't mean a person stating they are Dominant wants to be seen as such.
There are people who see Muslims as backwards idiotic terrorists who picked the wrong God. But that doesn't mean a person stating they are Muslim wants to be seen as such.
And so on and so on.

The difference between making a negative judgement based on what somebody says about themselves, and the idea that the person saying something about themselves is somehow trying to provoke said negative judgements is a pretty big leap in my opinion. And a leap that ultimately comes down to intellectual dishonesty and self-deciet as far as I'm concerned.

Personally, I don't really care if people judge me based on their own preconceived notions when I tell somebody I'm a slut. I know that's going to happen, just like people judge me in various way based on just about everything else I tell them about myself. People judge, it's a fact of life.

I totally understand you unwillingness to be romantically involved with a self-descibed slut. Just like I have an unwillingness to be romantically involved with people who aren't open to the idea of casual sex. But does that unwillingness to be romantically involved with a slut translate for you into the idea that a self-described slut wants you to disrespect her, look down upon her and so on?

I can tell you right now, the sluts I know don't give a fuck whether or not you respect them, and they sure as hell aren't having casual sex because they want you to disrespect them. Instead, they're having casual sex because they want to have casual sex, and the respect or disrespect they are getting from other people because they are making that choice doesn't factor into their decision to have or not have sex.
So I totally don't get how on Earth that sort of behavior would become translated into a judgement that a self-described slut desires to be disrespected.

And as an aside, no my profile doesn't mention anything about my sexual behavior, or the word slut at all. Why would it?
It's not word I tend to use to describe myself to other people, not because I'm afraid of the judgement it may carry, but because I consider the fact that I am a slut such an unimportant, irrelevant and boring factoid in grand scheme of the person that I am, that I usually considering it too irrelevant to even mention. If I had to describe myself in a thousand words, "slut" would probably never be mentioned, because it's an aspect of me that doesn't define me as a person, and therefore not worth mention.

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/22/2012 4:34:45 PM   
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I was answering the question. What does slut in a profile mean to you?

In the general population most people associate the word slut as very negative.

If You asked the general population Do you respect a nun? Most would say Yes.
If You asked the general population do you respect a slut? Most would say No. (except horny guys lol)

People dont put slut down on a resume unless they are trying to get a job as a prositute. ITs just not a respected word or label out there.

Certain labels bring certain feelings along with them and different definitions outside the websters. Im not judging, I was just answering the question.

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/22/2012 4:48:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

I was answering the question. What does slut in a profile mean to you?

In the general population most people associate the word slut as very negative.

If You asked the general population Do you respect a nun? Most would say Yes.
If You asked the general population do you respect a slut? Most would say No. (except horny guys lol)

People dont put slut down on a resume unless they are trying to get a job as a prositute. ITs just not a respected word or label out there.

Certain labels bring certain feelings along with them and different definitions outside the websters. Im not judging, I was just answering the question.


That's completely different from what you first said though.

I don't have an issue with you not respecting sluts, I have an issue with you presuming that sluts call themselves that in order to get disrespected by you.

If you ask the general population if a non calls herself a non in order to gain respect, most would say no.
So why do you assume that sluts call themselves sluts because they want to be disrespected by you?

Make all the judgements you want, but please do keep in mind that they are YOUR judgements, and not necessarily reflect the way other people are trying to provoke you to view them.

I hate quoting myself, but I feel it is necessary here to get the point I'm trying to make across:

quote:


There are people who see homosexuals as filthy amoral sodomists who will burn in hell. But that doesn't mean a person stating they are homosexual wants to be seen as such.
There are people who see Dominants as wife abusing lowlifes who have personal insecurities they take out on others. But that doesn't mean a person stating they are Dominant wants to be seen as such.
There are people who see Muslims as backwards idiotic terrorists who picked the wrong God. But that doesn't mean a person stating they are Muslim wants to be seen as such.
And so on and so on.


There are people who view sluts as not deserving of respect, lacking self-respect, practicing unsafe sex, and worthy only of being looked down upon (and apparently you're one of those people). But that doesn't mean a person stating they are a slut want to be seen as such.

You didn't say in your previous post that you disrespect sluts (which is just fine if that's the way you feel) you said that you think somebody calling themselves a slut WANTS you to look down on them, disrespect them, and wants people to assume they don't use condoms.
That's an intellectually dishonest and self-decietful twist of logic you are making in order to not have to deal with the feelings you're having about yourself around judging other's negatively.
You are trying to shift off the responsibility of your own negative judgement onto another group of people, who have not sought out that judgement, because you don't want to deal with having to admit to yourself you are judging negatively.

If you want to say that you disrespect sluts, then by all means, feel that way, and stand up and say it. But don't do this weasly cop-out behavior of "I am only talking about how they WANT to the be judged".
It's the same argument a rapists uses when he claims his victim was asking for it.




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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/22/2012 5:04:33 PM   
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Seriously? Comparing her to a rapist?

Her reply was
quote:

I really dislike the word slut. To use it to describe yourself openingly is like putting sign on one's self I AM ASKING YOU TO DISRESPECT ME. TO THINK LESS OF ME. IM EASY AND PROUD OF IT. AND I PROBABLY DONT TAKE PRECAUTIONS.

BUt thats me, thats how I view that word. ITs negative in every sense to a woman.

But I see to others it is a statement is " I am who I am like it or lump it.
"


Note the bolded.

Really, the rapist comparison is uncalled for, IMHO.

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/22/2012 5:23:07 PM   
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When I hear people call themselves a slut, I'm going to assume they're promiscuous, they will fuck anything that moves which means I want nothing at all to do with them because it's against my morals and values and someone I simply would not want to be around since I live my life very very differently.

Like Master said....it means he would need to use 3 condoms. lol

In the literal term, it's negative..simple as that. It is what it is. If other people wanna go around and change the definition to fit whatever it is they think they are, so be it but then don't be surprised when people look at you in the original definition that most people accept.


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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/22/2012 8:43:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

When I hear people call themselves a slut, I'm going to assume they're promiscuous, they will fuck anything that moves which means I want nothing at all to do with them because it's against my morals and values and someone I simply would not want to be around since I live my life very very differently.

Like Master said....it means he would need to use 3 condoms. lol

In the literal term, it's negative..simple as that. It is what it is. If other people wanna go around and change the definition to fit whatever it is they think they are, so be it but then don't be surprised when people look at you in the original definition that most people accept.


Tsk, tsk. We all know what "assuming" does. Speaking as someone who is not ashamed to admit her sluttiness, your assumptions are utter bullshit. You and your "morals and values" and "very very different" way of life may make you feel superior but you are in no way superior to me or anyone else here. The term is negative to YOU, not negative to everyone. Look down your nose and snicker in your own ignorance but just know that your prejudices and inability to perceive or accept those diffferent from you says way more about you than those you are unfairly judging. Simple as that

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/22/2012 9:51:35 PM   
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Better? No

But I don't see what's so special about being a slut. 75% of Americans are sluts imo.


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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/23/2012 4:58:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ishtarr

Personally, I don't really care if people judge me based on their own preconceived notions when I tell somebody I'm a slut. I know that's going to happen, just like people judge me in various way based on just about everything else I tell them about myself. People judge, it's a fact of life.

I totally understand you unwillingness to be romantically involved with a self-descibed slut. Just like I have an unwillingness to be romantically involved with people who aren't open to the idea of casual sex. But does that unwillingness to be romantically involved with a slut translate for you into the idea that a self-described slut wants you to disrespect her, look down upon her and so on?

I can tell you right now, the sluts I know don't give a fuck whether or not you respect them, and they sure as hell aren't having casual sex because they want you to disrespect them. Instead, they're having casual sex because they want to have casual sex, and the respect or disrespect they are getting from other people because they are making that choice doesn't factor into their decision to have or not have sex.
So I totally don't get how on Earth that sort of behavior would become translated into a judgement that a self-described slut desires to be disrespected.

It's (slut) a polarising word, to be sure.

Me, I hate it with a passion and don't even use it in my personal relationships. But otherwise, I'm a typical Aussie male who swears like a wharfie in general.

But the thing is, while your self-described slut may not desire to be disrespected, it's gonna happen courtesy of the action of doing so. Cause and consequence 101. When I see "slut" in a public profile, I'm already thinking she's lacking self respect whether she actually is or not. It's crass and it's tasteless, even if she's really a 40yo virgin.

I'm not out to bed every woman so I guess what "slut" written in a profile really means to me is that it's a one word filtering mechanism that gets me outa there asap.



quote:

And as an aside, no my profile doesn't mention anything about my sexual behavior, or the word slut at all. Why would it?

I tried your profile again - still couldn't be found. Which I presume means it's as you say - that "slut" (along with every other word in the dictionary) isn't mentioned.


quote:

It's not word I tend to use to describe myself to other people, not because I'm afraid of the judgement it may carry, but because I consider the fact that I am a slut such an unimportant, irrelevant and boring factoid in grand scheme of the person that I am, that I usually considering it too irrelevant to even mention. If I had to describe myself in a thousand words, "slut" would probably never be mentioned, because it's an aspect of me that doesn't define me as a person, and therefore not worth mention.

Hardly know where to start here....

Either you don't care "if people judge me based on their own preconceived notions when I tell somebody I'm a slut" or it's an irrelevance you don't even mention at all - which is it?

And you're admonishing us (earlier in the same post) about "a leap that ultimately comes down to intellectual dishonesty and self-deciet as far as I'm concerned" and here it seems to me you're now conveniently choosing to lie by omission.

Errrm, that, or you're for intellectual dishonesty and it wasn't a statement of admonishment at all...?

Focus.


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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/23/2012 11:46:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ishtarr

........There are people who see Muslims as backwards idiotic terrorists who picked the wrong God.........


I just have to tell you Ishtarr how much I enjoyed this little morsel!!

Back to topic -

My avatar is a direct consequence of Rush Limbaugh's attack on Sarah Fluck (not sure the name is right, Sandra?) and her testimony. It's a consequence of what I see as the immense backlash against women in the Right's political agenda.

Would I personally describe myself as a slut to any casual person? No. I have used it as a self-descriptor in either a one on one context or in a joking manner, yes.

Like others have said, one has to find out what the user of term means, before drawing any conclusions.

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/23/2012 12:00:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BurntKitty

I'm a shoe slut. Over 40 pair and counting....



Me too! I'm very promiscuous where shoes are concerned.


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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/23/2012 12:03:10 PM   
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My avatar is a direct consequence of Rush Limbaugh's attack on Sarah Fluck (not sure the name is right, Sandra?) and her testimony. It's a consequence of what I see as the immense backlash against women in the Right's political agenda.


This!!!!!


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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/23/2012 4:03:28 PM   
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Here's Sandra Fluke's testimony:

http://www.whatthefolly.com/2012/02/23/transcript-sandra-fluke-testifies-on-why-women-should-be-allowed-access-to-contraception-and-reproductive-health-care/

And Rush's response:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/04/1070884/-Rush-s-52-Smears-Against-Sandra-Fluke

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/23/2012 7:55:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

Seriously? Comparing her to a rapist?

Her reply was
quote:

I really dislike the word slut. To use it to describe yourself openingly is like putting sign on one's self I AM ASKING YOU TO DISRESPECT ME. TO THINK LESS OF ME. IM EASY AND PROUD OF IT. AND I PROBABLY DONT TAKE PRECAUTIONS.

BUt thats me, thats how I view that word. ITs negative in every sense to a woman.

But I see to others it is a statement is " I am who I am like it or lump it.
"


Note the bolded.

Really, the rapist comparison is uncalled for, IMHO.


Agreed. Methinks that is a tad bit extreme.

Anywho, if I see the word "slut" in a CM profile, I skip over it. But it's not the word itself that turns me off as much as the stuff I've noticed that often accompanies the profile that contains it, such as close-up vagina or cock shots, or complete nudity, which I find very very unappealing about 90% of the time. Even in my most casual relationships, I like people who lead with their personality, not full-frontal in your face sexuality. Just not attractive to me. I don't wanna see it all before I even decide if there's anything worth seeing.

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/25/2012 10:45:36 PM   
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Depends upon the context it's used in. What all else they have posted on their profile, including pictures.

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/28/2012 4:23:56 AM   
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slut= prostitute...
there are plenty on here...



kermit999 always makes money for his partners...

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/28/2012 5:48:14 AM   
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Well, I think the term itself, on its own, has a fundamental meaning, and that meaning has largely, negative connotations. But use of the term and its meaning therefrom is entirely dependent on context.

So as for what I think when someone uses it in their profile - well it really depends on the overall profile, and how they appear to be using the term. Someone who has a sparse profile with nothing but, "I am a slut" in the written section, is quite a different profile from someone who has a detailed profile and says something like, "I enjoy letting out my slut side for my Dominant". I'm not sure the use of the word slut necessarily requires a negative connotation in the second profile. As to the first - it's difficult to really say, but without more information, what I do know is that I don't really know what the person in the first profile really meant to say.

I know I have a provocative screen name on this site - I chose it intentionally. But I know the various connotations that come to the set of words I've chosen to use, so I deal with that by specifically explaining my screen name in my profile. Thus, anyone who is interested in me can have a sense of what I mean by the words. And those who choose to just take a pass on my profile due to my name? Well good riddance to those who can't take the time to actually read my profile!

Anyway, my suggestion to anyone who chooses to use the word "slut" in their profile in any way - you might want to clarify how you are using the word. I think being able to hear some thoughtfulness behind why one chooses the word that they chose almost immediately turns what could be an initially negative connotation into a more positive one. Using "slut" without elaboration, or where meaning is not obvious from context, does somewhat beg for the negative connotation to be drawn.

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/28/2012 9:04:18 PM   
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I think it means something different to everybody. To some it is a badge of honor, to others a means to humiliate. As long as both parties agree.....can't see that it really matters.

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/29/2012 10:09:42 PM   
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Y'know, while I'm all for attempts to rehabilitate the word "slut", in a context where lots of people get off on humiliation and degradation, rehabilitation kinda misses the point. The whole point is that dirty = hot.

P.S: Sandra Fluke irony. Look up her taste on porn.

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RE: What does "slut" shown a profile mean to ... - 6/29/2012 10:38:29 PM   
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idk.i prefer harlot. slut makes me think of fishy smells(ie not very sexy).

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